Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[darkvortex]

We don’t know about that. Lincoln isn’t popular at all and can easily be replaced by a different, more popular character.

I just don't think we're getting anymore newcomers other than the leaked ones

 

[RileyXY1]

I just don't think we're getting anymore newcomers other than the leaked ones

We might not get any characters at all beyond the leaked ones.

 

[Ze Diglett]

Plankton seems... interesting. Right out of the gate, I'm worried about his sauce. A super low-commitment projectile that slows you down AND weakens your DI? YIKES. Going on the offensive against this guy might be a pain in the ass. Good thing I'm mostly looking at zoners.
I'm surprised at how many fighting game references they packed into his moveset. Guy's got Burn Knuckle, Power Wave, a move literally called "Chain Grab," AND Potemkin Buster - he even says "BLOCK THIS!" when he does the Buster. Who would've known Plankton would be the fighting game homage of this game?

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No... NO...

NOT AGAIN...

 

[ivanlerma]

Someone did an analysis for Raphael's moveset & pointed out which references he had, he also noted how raph has a move based on mikey which is based on how the first game were leo & mikey had some borrowed attacks from their brothers.

He also pointed out raph's punk costume origins, brought up what rep said about april's black jumpsuit alt, and the idea of raph being the fastest turtle is probably inaccurate to the comics since mikey takes that roll.

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[LimeTH]

Someone did an analysis for Raphael's moveset & pointed out which references he had, he also noted how raph has a move based on mikey which is based on how the first game were leo & mikey had some borrowed attacks from their brothers.

He also pointed out raph's punk costume origins, brought up what rep said about april's black jumpsuit alt, and the idea of raph being the fastest turtle is probably inaccurate to the comics since mikey takes that roll.

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Ohhh, boy. Can't help but be a little worried for Mikey's chances now. I still think he's probably safe (he was literally the most prominent character in the NASB1 segment of the trailer) but if they're putting parts of him into Raph, that's a bit concerning.

 

[RileyXY1]

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Ohhh, boy. Can't help but be a little worried for Mikey's chances now. I still think he's probably safe (he was literally the most prominent character in the NASB1 segment of the trailer) but if they're putting parts of him into Raph, that's a bit concerning.

I'm concerned for all of the missing veterans except Helga because they accidentally leaked her.

 

[LimeTH]

I'm concerned for all of the missing veterans except Helga because they accidentally leaked her.

I know dude, you say that every time. I'm focusing on one in particular here.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

If they only do two turtles again, it'll be another bad character decision that will kill a LOT of the momentum they're gunning for with this release. "Visual Variety" (April ****ing) be damned, we want all four turtles! Again, people will be way happier that all four turtles are here than annoyed that TMNT has six reps.

Ready for the fanbase to be split between two games?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Wonder how many games its gonna take to get to its "EVERYONE IS HERE!"?

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Wonder how many games its gonna take to get to its "EVERYONE IS HERE!"?

The fact that we need to wait for that just to get major Nick staples back into the game is honestly a disgrace. I respect the devs, but they should NOT have gone for as many newcomers if they didn't have the resources to bring everyone back.

I can already see Grandma Gertie becoming the embodiment of this game's roster problems, and a Jar Jar Binks-esque scapegoat.

 

[Ze Diglett]

If they only do two turtles again, it'll be another bad character decision that will kill a LOT of the momentum they're gunning for with this release. "Visual Variety" (April ****ing) be damned, we want all four turtles! Again, people will be way happier that all four turtles are here than annoyed that TMNT has six reps.

Ready for the fanbase to be split between two games?

I mean, let's not kid ourselves, with how tiny the first game's playerbase is, how many people do you think are gonna stick around over a handful of questionable cuts? If people abandon ship on this game week 2 like they did the first time, they aren't going to NASB1.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

I mean, let's not kid ourselves, with how tiny the first game's playerbase is, how many people do you think are gonna stick around over a handful of questionable cuts? If people abandon ship on this game week 2 like they did the first time, they aren't going to NASB1.

I'm talking about existing fans who's mains got cut. Look how many people aren't gonna buy if Toph isn't in. Right now we're looking at almost half of the original game's roster being gone. They might just stick to the game with the roster they like more.

As it stands, NASB2's roster doesn't feel like an upgrade, it feels like a trade-off.

 

[LimeTH]

As it stands, NASB2's roster doesn't feel like an upgrade, it feels like a trade-off.

To the point where you can almost pinpoint who's replacing who.

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Two Turtles are out for the other two
If Toph is gone, Azula is the replacement
If Helga or Lincoln are gone, Gerald feels like a replacement.
Gertie feels like she could fill in for either Hugh (parental figure bizarrely getting in over the protagonist) or Oblina (semi-obscure female 90's character pick)
If the Beavers are a duo, that's them possibly replacing the other yellow and brown furred, red and purple nosed duo fighter. (And you better believe I'm adding "they're just making them a duo because CatDog isn't there" a part of my "reasons duo Beavers is stupid" list.)

I really wish stuff like this didn't always have to come with a catch. I get cuts have to happen but THIS MANY being on the table is frankly insane.

 

[ivanlerma]

Guys, relax even if Raph is using a move from Mikey that shouldn't mean that they're cutting him out or atleast replace the last two turtles with the missing two.

I had a feeling you all would freak out about the details which admittedly was worth it, but you all need to relax & keep some optimism.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

To the point where you can almost pinpoint who's replacing who.

Spoiler

Two Turtles are out for the other two
If Toph is gone, Azula is the replacement
If Helga or Lincoln are gone, Gerald feels like a replacement.
Gertie feels like she could fill in for either Hugh (parental figure bizarrely getting in over the protagonist) or Oblina (semi-obscure female 90's character pick)
If the Beavers are a duo, that's them possibly replacing the other yellow and brown furred, red and purple nosed duo fighter. (And you better believe I'm adding "they're just making them a duo because CatDog isn't there" a part of my "reasons duo Beavers is stupid" list.)

I really wish stuff like this didn't always have to come with a catch. I get cuts have to happen but THIS MANY being on the table is frankly insane.

Especially when its basically half of the original game's roster, and contains many Nick superstars. Its not like cutting Wolf or the Ice Climbers.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Personally speaking, I'm speculating the 6 characters we saw in the NASB1 footage + Hugh (PapaGenos leak) and one of CatDog or Oblina will stay, which would leave only three cuts (CatDog/Oblina, PTM, and Shredder); I'd be fine if the DLC gets a second season of four having three of the eight bringing the returning vets back. I'd rather that than a bunch of cuts.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I can already see Grandma Gertie becoming the embodiment of this game's roster problems, and a Jar Jar Binks-esque scapegoat.

Problems? She's the most interesting pick IMO.

EIH is never happening, ever. We've been over this before. There's a pretty high likelihood that NASB 3 could also be a mechanical rework and built from the ground up.

 

[RileyXY1]

I'm talking about existing fans who's mains got cut. Look how many people aren't gonna buy if Toph isn't in. Right now we're looking at almost half of the original game's roster being gone. They might just stick to the game with the roster they like more.

As it stands, NASB2's roster doesn't feel like an upgrade, it feels like a trade-off.

It's pretty much another Marvel vs. Capcom Infinite situation, except its worse because this time the cut characters don't have the issue of their film rights belonging to a competing studio.

 

[fogbadge]

you all need to relax & keep some optimism.

i'm not sure gamers can

 

[Guynamednelson]

There's a pretty high likelihood that NASB 3 could also be a mechanical rework and built from the ground up.

Video game sequels don't scrap all the previous games' assets without having a very good reason to do so, IE switching from 2D to 3D. What if they think NASB2's assets are good enough to not warrant this?

 

[dlewis53]

Honestly? For now, I don't think this means much, and I think you guys need to take some deep breaths and not think so catastrophically, especially since it's apparently only the one move, and it's literally nothing more than an upwards kick. Hell, despite this apparently being a move Mikey had in that TMNT game, he didn't even have it in the first All-Star Brawl.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

To the point where you can almost pinpoint who's replacing who.

Spoiler

Two Turtles are out for the other two
If Toph is gone, Azula is the replacement
If Helga or Lincoln are gone, Gerald feels like a replacement.
Gertie feels like she could fill in for either Hugh (parental figure bizarrely getting in over the protagonist) or Oblina (semi-obscure female 90's character pick)
If the Beavers are a duo, that's them possibly replacing the other yellow and brown furred, red and purple nosed duo fighter. (And you better believe I'm adding "they're just making them a duo because CatDog isn't there" a part of my "reasons duo Beavers is stupid" list.)

I really wish stuff like this didn't always have to come with a catch. I get cuts have to happen but THIS MANY being on the table is frankly insane.

Spoiler

Honestly I think most of the replacement are really bad if that's the case.
The 2 Turtles I actually dont't mind personally because with a roster this small I can understand not wanting all 4.
But Toph is much cooler than Azula imo.
Helga is definitely cooler than Gerald
And I know Beavers have a huge fanbase here but I feel like CatDog made much more sense and should have been a priority.

The roster feels like the dev saw fan requests and didn't understand that people wanted those characters as an extension of the first game roster. Turtles are the prime example of this. On numerous poll people voted for Donnie and Raph not because they're better than Mikey and Leo, but because people wanted all 4. Similarly, Gerald could have been actually a decent Pick if he was complementing Helga, but now it just feels wrong. Beavers would have been cool to complete the 90s rep with Oblina and CatDog, but if we're losing them there's barely any point to add them. Again, people didn't want Beavers because it was the best 90s rep over the others, they wanted them because it was a way to rep every 90s Nicktoons with the first game roster.
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[RileyXY1]

To the point where you can almost pinpoint who's replacing who.

Spoiler

Two Turtles are out for the other two
If Toph is gone, Azula is the replacement
If Helga or Lincoln are gone, Gerald feels like a replacement.
Gertie feels like she could fill in for either Hugh (parental figure bizarrely getting in over the protagonist) or Oblina (semi-obscure female 90's character pick)
If the Beavers are a duo, that's them possibly replacing the other yellow and brown furred, red and purple nosed duo fighter. (And you better believe I'm adding "they're just making them a duo because CatDog isn't there" a part of my "reasons duo Beavers is stupid" list.)

I really wish stuff like this didn't always have to come with a catch. I get cuts have to happen but THIS MANY being on the table is frankly insane.

It would basically be weird if they advertised the game's roster as bigger and better than the original only to turn out to be the exact same size.

 

[dlewis53]

It would basically be weird if they advertised the game's roster as bigger and better than the original only to turn out to be the exact same size.

Out of curiosity, where did they advertise that the roster was going to be "bigger and better"?

 

[Opossum]

I'm really not sure why people are suddenly acting like Helga was cut when she was leaked through the website.

Come on now.

 

[Faso115]

Can't wait for the compilation involving characters getting scared by Plankton's ultimate attack

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Problems? She's the most interesting pick IMO.

But an overwhelming chunk of the roster of Nick superstars shouldn't be cut to accomodate her. Imagine if we had characters like Kirby, Luigi, Pit, Lucario, etc being cut to accommodate Piranha Plant.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

But an overwhelming chunk of the roster of Nick superstars shouldn't be cut to accomodate her. Imagine if we had characters like Kirby, Luigi, Pit, Lucario, etc being cut to accommodate Piranha Plant.

I have a hard time believing Pit or Lucario are Nintendo superstars, let alone more iconic than Plant. Cult classics? Maybe, but not on the level of Luigi, Kirby, and Plant.

Also, Lucario is like THE "I forgot this guy was in Smash" guy, he's arguably one of the most logical cuts.

 

[fogbadge]

I have a hard time believing Pit or Lucario are Nintendo superstars, let alone more iconic than Plant. Cult classics? Maybe, but not on the level of Luigi, Kirby, and Plant.

you know lucario was once voted second most popular Pokemon? He’s also one of the few non gen 1 Pokémon guaranteed to return in main series games?

 

[RileyXY1]

you know lucario was once voted second most popular Pokemon? He’s also one of the few non gen 1 Pokémon guaranteed to return in main series games?

And he got his own movie, served as the intro to Mega Evolution in XY, and was used by countless trainers throughout the franchise. Lucario is arguably the most recognizable Pokémon that didn’t debut in Red and Blue.

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

I have a hard time believing Pit or Lucario are Nintendo superstars, let alone more iconic than Plant. Cult classics? Maybe, but not on the level of Luigi, Kirby, and Plant.

Also, Lucario is like THE "I forgot this guy was in Smash" guy, he's arguably one of the most logical cuts.

Fair, I don't think Plant was a great example. But you get where I'm coming from.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I have a hard time believing Pit or Lucario are Nintendo superstars, let alone more iconic than Plant. Cult classics? Maybe, but not on the level of Luigi, Kirby, and Plant.

Also, Lucario is like THE "I forgot this guy was in Smash" guy, he's arguably one of the most logical cuts.

You've been on the internet how long dude?

There's a reason Lucario shows up in every single Pokemon game. It isn't just because the devs like them.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Well, this came at a convenient time

EDIT: OK, I take it this game will be as grappler-centric as the first game was rushdown. jokes

 

[SneakyLink]

Well, this came at a convenient time

Having never seen the show, El Tigre looks awesome.

 

[darkvortex]

Looks like he plays exactly how I'd expect him to. Love the stage

 

[Sammerbro44]

Well, this came at a convenient time

EDIT: OK, I take it this game will be as grappler-centric as the first game was rushdown. jokes

Holy crap, El Tigre looks so good! The stage is a reference to the episode ""The Good, the Bad, and the Tigre", and the music is some of the best I've heard from this game

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Well, this came at a convenient time

EDIT: OK, I take it this game will be as grappler-centric as the first game was rushdown. jokes

On one note, at the rate they're doing these reveals

Spoiler

The sooner we could we get to see Daggett and Norbert in action

On the another note though, still no returning veterans...I'm actually starting to wonder if they had indeed been cut...Praying for you my Aussie bro Mamboo07

 

[fogbadge]

I like his super

 

[darkvortex]

I have a feeling ember or azula are next but they could be randoma nd do like Gerald or something

 

[Faso115]

Is the voice the same one as the show? can't tell lol.

Great to see him here! And with his own stage too. Probably he's gonna be tomorrow's showcase...if there's any.