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It would make sense for development on Smash to have kicked off, like, 2 years ago.
How was Ultimate's release a negative for it?
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That's why it feels like we're kind of in a weird spot - I don't think it would influence when the next game is produced, but we already got dealt a pretty solid lineup of "Switch characters" through DLC. There are only a few currently present series that I think feel like they've fallen behind a bit due to further development: Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Pokemon mostly. Particularly the latter two, but AC is a bigger ticket item than ever after New Horizons.
It's not that aspect I'm necessarily focusing on here, more that I feel that both of those games had to make noticable sacrifices to come out so early. Brawl would've been somewhat of a similar case had it not been delayed to early '08, I feel.
I feel that Ultimate coming out so early is what left the game without much side content to chew on if you didn't care for World of Light. Remember, Stage Builder and Home Run Contest weren't in the game on release day. I'd wager this also affected the base game newcomer count, too, and I imagine that both of these wouldn't be much of an issue had the game gotten one more year of development before release IMO.
Honestly I'd also love for them to be able to take their time with Smash and would be fine with them putting it out later in the system's lifecycle.
But we know that it didn't. Also Ult wasn't technically in the first year of the Switch, over a year and a half in.
Well, this will be interesting to speculate. But that aside, while other companies doing games for Nintendo is cool and all, remember when Nintendo made games for other companies?Looks like Bandai Namco has set up a dedicated studio for their collaborations with Nintendo
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This studio is hiring for a 2d and a 3d action game and they clarify how it is specifically commissioned by Nintendo
My main holdup is that they don't need to have it out early when Mario Kart already fulfills that purpose rather well on its own. 8 Deluxe sold gangbusters for the Switch, and I couldn't see any harm in letting Mario Kart 9/X frontline the next system right away while Nintendo lets the next Smash bake in the oven for longer than they've done previously.
That would basically mean development went straight from 4 to Ult to the next game with basically no break. Given Sakurai's post-DLC comments I think it's pretty safe to assume that did not happen.
Unless he either A. Isn't working on it himself. Or B. Isn't allowed to talk about it.
I can just point to my old wishlist video and say "You can ignore #5."
I feel this is more a consequence of the game's focus then when it came out. In the recent video Sakurai put out about Ultimate he said the amount of legacy content that the game required took away from things like an SSE-esque mode or trophies, and the same is (probably) true for newcomers. I doubt the increased time between releases would've changed that drastically, it was always going to be a sacrifice we had to make for Ultimate to be the game it was.
do you have any idea how they should do this?
I mean...for one thing, they could give him his actual voice.
And Bowser and the Kongs having stock animal and monster noises instead of their actual voices.
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At least in those cases it's just a case of being outdated, since those voices were more in line with earlier depictions of the characters (hell, outside of Smash, DK made realistic gorilla noises as late as Mario Party 4).
There's obvious changes to be made, like giving him his voice and making him able to properly emote (his eyes tilt downward when frustrated or angry, upward when disappointed or worried, etc). There's also a lot more subtle things you could do to his animations to make him less of a bumbling astronaut and more... Olimar. For example, his current idle animations would be perfect to have on Louie since they're better fitting for him, but on Olimar they don't really convey much of anything. I'd make his idle animations convey more of his personality, like him looking ahead for potential dangers for one, and him doing some stretches for the other. A lot of animations could be made more distinct from one another like f-smash from side-b from grab, which are all currently very similar; at this point, changing them would be a QoL feature.
that would be a good victory pose. certainly a few characters who could use a victory pose updateThere's obvious changes to be made, like giving him his voice and making him able to properly emote (his eyes tilt downward when frustrated or angry, upward when disappointed or worried, etc). There's also a lot more subtle things you could do to his animations to make him less of a bumbling astronaut and more... Olimar. For example, his current idle animations would be perfect to have on Louie since they're better fitting for him, but on Olimar they don't really convey much of anything. I'd make his idle animations convey more of his personality, like him looking ahead for potential dangers for one, and him doing some stretches for the other. A lot of animations could be made more distinct from one another like f-smash from side-b from grab, which are all currently very similar; at this point, changing them would be a QoL feature.
Give him this victory animation too, instead of the absolute handful of nothing his current victory animations are.
In my opinion they should have a complete overhaul of his moveset (right now it incentivizes the killing of Pikmin / using them as meat shields instead of their preservation which is just.... so backwards to what Pikmin is as a concept), but if we had to build off Ultimate then these changes are the absolute least I would want.
I have a whole moveset rework for him drafted, I just need to make art for it. Easier said than done, but it'll be more than worth it in the end becuase I'll know that at the very least I did my part.
Yeah, I’d love to see Diddy Kong’s boombox victory animation from DKC2 with his own custom victory theme. I’d like to see the same for Dixie with her electric guitar if she makes it in.
On that note, I feel that there's been a notable shift in how victory themes are composed since Brawl. Earlier victory themes usually went for a softer, more orchestral arrangement, while newer victory themes are more energetic and bombastic.
Yeah, I think that works really well for a general DK series victory theme. For the specific victory animations, it would be cool if they replaced that theme with these:
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agreed
Honestly yeah, the biggest thing (besides the lack of voice) that I'd like to see change about Olimar is the fact that the Pikmin are, by nature, disposable. And honestly, I think you could do this with a single change.There's obvious changes to be made, like giving him his voice and making him able to properly emote (his eyes tilt downward when frustrated or angry, upward when disappointed or worried, etc). There's also a lot more subtle things you could do to his animations to make him less of a bumbling astronaut and more... Olimar. For example, his current idle animations would be perfect to have on Louie since they're better fitting for him, but on Olimar they don't really convey much of anything. I'd make his idle animations convey more of his personality, like him looking ahead for potential dangers for one, and him doing some stretches for the other. A lot of animations could be made more distinct from one another like f-smash from side-b from grab, which are all currently very similar; at this point, changing them would be a QoL feature.
Give him this victory animation too, instead of the absolute handful of nothing his current victory animations are.
In my opinion they should have a complete overhaul of his moveset (right now it incentivizes the killing of Pikmin / using them as meat shields instead of their preservation which is just.... so backwards to what Pikmin is as a concept), but if we had to build off Ultimate then these changes are the absolute least I would want.
I have a whole moveset rework for him drafted, I just need to make art for it. Easier said than done, but it'll be more than worth it in the end becuase I'll know that at the very least I did my part.
And for Bowser and DK specifically it makes it feel more like you're playing Godzilla and King Kong respectively instead of Bowser and Donkey Kong.
More like Gamera and King Kong. I like to think that King K. Rool is Godzilla.
I liken Bowser moreso to Godzilla, especially considering that Melee had an event match that referenced Godzilla vs. Kong that notably featured the player playing as Bowser as the Godzilla stand in and the opponent being DK to serve as a stand in for King Kong. It also took place on Fourside, referencing that those big fight scenes in monster movies often take place in large urban areas.
Yeah, I know. Still, King K. Rool was not playable in Melee, and though K. Rool may not have atomic breath, let alone fire breath like Bowser, he looks more like a lizard or whatever like Godzilla while Bowser is more of a turtle like Gamera. Hence why I thought that way.
Yes, DK should say "Banana slama!" in a taunt.
Personally I really like this one, but suggesting ANOTHER version of Jungle Hijinxs replace a unique DKC theme pre-Ultimate would have gotten you burnt at the stake LOL
There’s definitely a lot more songs I want in Smash, particularly from DKC2 and Tropical Freeze but Ultimate was a big improvement overall.
would you be in favour of a healthy balance between the two?
