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He's a perfect candidate for a Mii Mage costume.
Piranha Plant was a mistake that should not be repeated.
I disagree. I think Plant was a fun surprise character. I think characters like this are great when they’re used as rare unexpected fighters but they’re probably best when they’re kept as a rarity. As long as the character has a fun design and moveset, that’s what matters most to me. Some mooks have the potential for much more unique Smash fighters than most normal human characters could.
I disagree.
The character is what matters most to me.
Character is important to me too but it’s not quite as vital in a game like Smash. There’s still characters in Smash don’t really bring over a whole lot of their personalities and back stories. So while I definitely value character a ton in general, I feel like aesthetics and moveset potential slightly edge it out in Smash specifically. Now, if a character has both an amazing design and awesome moveset potential on top of being a greatly written character, that’s even better.
I always feel like I got super lucky that I vibe with Banjo's kit pretty well, especially when some people really hate how his moveset was implemented to begin with lmaoObviously the character is gonna matter a lot to me but I also have a track record of my most wanted characters (whenever I get one, that is) playing in ways I don't really have fun with so I kinda have to make due with the people I don't really feel personally attached to
And also Bowser. Bowser's cool.
So because of that, I also put a lot of value in how fun someone's moveset is since Sakurai just doesn't want me to have my cake and eat it too.
Okay, I was on your side because I agree that fun factor is incredibly important but I can't agree with that.
I don’t mean to imply that character isn’t important at all in Smash. It definitely still is but not to the same level as it is in something like a JRPG. If we had something like a Subspace Emissary back or a way that characters could actually interact with each other beyond basic matches, then character becomes even more important.
Oooooh. You're talking specifically about character depth. Smash characters don't have a story to take part in, so the complexity of their roles doesn't really matter.
"Character" as in personality traits, not literally the playable characters themselves.
To be fair, people also say this about Yoshi.
Yes, and to that point if Smash came out nowadays I highly doubt Yoshi's Island would be deemed its own series. Yoshi kinda got grandfathered in here - I'd say he has about as much business being marked as his own thing as Luigi does at this point, which you can make of that how you will.
I used to feel this way regarding Yoshi around the time of Smash 4, but Yoshi keeps getting consistent platformer releases that don't even have Mario in them. His last three games, Wooly World, Wooly World (with Dogs) and Crafted World don't hint at Mario at all.
I honestly think Luigi's Mansion has more validity to be its own separate series branch than Yoshi does. And that's despite the former having retained Mario as a common plotpoint in its future titles, unlike the latter.
I am really curious if this change will extend to other Mario games going forward or if this will just be a one off occurrence for some reason.
while not my most wanted mario character, or even second, I think there's potential for a fun and unique fighter in kamek. though I'd hope he'd have his peronality from the Origami King and the peach costume he’s donned on occasion
same
That's not how it would work.
Yeah, that’s what I was trying to say but I guess I kind of suck at explaining things lol. Basically, I like characters for a wide variety of reasons from aesthetics to abilities to personality and backstory. In general, I balance these all pretty evenly for my favorites but some characters definitely lean towards one reason or the other. For Smash, I tend to value the personality aspect a bit lower than I otherwise would, though it’s still important. For example, some characters I want are because I liked their game and they have a general “cool factor” like Bill Rizer. Bill is basically a typical 80’s action hero and doesn’t really have much of a personality beyond that.
You can take that spoiler off because that was far from the first time Kamek did that.
How do I not remember that?
I hope so. Making the default Magikoopas a different colour is nice way of making Kamek stand out, without the questioning of "is this Kamek or a generic Magikoopas."
I can’t say for sure but I don’t see it as particularly likely. We haven’t had an indie character yet and there’s a lot of competition for that. I do like the Knight’s design and he seems like he’d be a fun character from what little I’ve seen of him. So while I’m not really expecting him, I wouldn’t rule him out either and I’d welcome his inclusion. This is all going off gut feeling and I don’t really have any kind of inside knowledge so I could be wrong.
Not great but there’s always a slight chance of a mii costume
Facts. IDK how people go at Incineroar (or anyone) for being a wasted slot when Plant is right there. People defend him for "moveset potential" as if any actual character couldn't have had just as much of a interesting moveset, and "importance" as if people think of him beyond spending a second killing one and then moving on.
Not how what would work?
I was going to say it happened in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, but then I remembered it was actually funnier than that.
Spin offs or no, he's only appeared in the Super Mario series, so that's the only classification he can fit under.
I see your point somewhat, but in the context of Smash, you can only be one. And some characters are clearly more intrinsically tied to the core Mario brand than others; even if you can technically call them all "Mario" characters and not be wrong, it lacks nuance.
Simple. He doesn't exist. We all hallucinated his memory.
