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Gengar84
brought up the Subspace Emissary, I just had a thought...
Not really scathing, Gameplay-wise Barret is lot more interesting than Tifa who's just another Brawler. Personally I rather have Black Mage as the next rep for FF
Alright i guess but would be unfortunate for Astro to be shoe-in due to recent bias over reps like Sackboy honestly.
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I think the best way to do another Subspace Emissary story is to take inspiration from the Dissidia games. Basically, there was a team of heroes led by a goddess named Cosmos and a team of villains led by a demon named Chaos. It was an extremely simple premise but it worked well for a huge crossover. I think Palutena and Hades are the perfect stand ins for Cosmos and Chaos. For this to work optimally, we need to up the count of playable villains but I think Smash could use more villains regardless. I’d like there to be a little more depth to the story than just that basic premise but I think it works well as a starting point.
Now, imagine this; what if they brought back Everyone is Here and did a Subspace Emissary like Adventure Mode with all the characters in the base game having a role in it. That would be something of total hell for the developers, wouldn't it?
EDIT: I mean, Subspace did take a lot of development time and took away some focus that could have made multiplayer for Brawl better, did it not? Something like that? Just like how bringing everyone back in Ultimate took some time away from making more content like single player content, some of which had to be brought into the game via update?
Very interesting thoughts, Gengar84! I never played Dissidia, but that sounds interesting so much! I think that your idea could work very well. I also agree on how you think (or would love) the platforming stages should be done, too.
Im gonna do that too!
Toad Captain Syrup, Paper Mario, GenoDixie) ZELDA (all Adult VERSIONS)(TOTK)(OOT) ,Impa (Skyward Sword),Raven Baek METROIDMorpho Knight (Meta Knight Echo)Bandana Waddle Dee, Dark Matter, MagolorGIOVANNI (ALOLAN SNOBILKAT, KRAMSHEF and NIDOKING) PORKY, GYIYG (mewtwo echo)( alt) Lyn(Classic Design and Dark as Alts)EGGMANTom Nook(Has Armours based on other Megamen)Mii Spellcaster, Feral MiiNoah/MioSAGAT< Both more based on the original FF7 and less on Remake/ Compilation, Also Black MageDj Octavio(all 4 return), 
What is a Snobilkat and a Kramshef?Im gonna do that too!
Im gonna steal your basic work and change/ Add on top of it!
Mario:
Mario Spinoffs:
King Boo,
ZELDA:
LINK (all adult versions
LINK (SMALL) < TOON and TOY sharing a roster slot!, Midna, Skullkid and Octorok
Isaac/ Matthew
Bomberman
Crash Bandicoot
SPYRO
Dante
Master Chief
Shovel Knight
UNDERTALE:
The Human, Flowey, The Fun Gang/Susie
according to google persian and honchkrow
That makes sense. I didn’t know Giovanni had a Honchkrow but it fits him flavorfully. I wasn’t aware he had an Alolan Persian either but I know the original version is his main Pokemon. These would all be pretty cool but Nidoking would be awesome.
I don't think Giovanni has either Alolan Persian or Honchkrow.
That's because he was never shown with one.
Mewtwo had as much support as Mega Man before reveal. He was bigger than both Ridley and K.Rool even. This is the very reason arguments for cutting Mewtwo are just ignorant.
Given his track record:
Interesting premise. I would replace Hades with Ganondorf to better balance things personally + Fits better thematic with Ganondorf being lineage of dark forces who have defied the Gods from Deimse.
Dissidia is a 3D arena fighter where characters can fly around the stage. It’s actually a lot of fun. It kind of reminds me of those older Dragon Ball Z fighting games.
If I had my pick, I'd have one of the following lines in, in descending order of likeliness:
it’s difficult to judge as it’s getting harder to keep track of who debuted in what. most of the ones I could see getting in over Agumon were anime debuts. there are plenty who are popular enough I would argue that they had a reasonable chance for an additional rep had digimon gotten in
Agumon I think is ideal because not only is he the mascot, but his body shape doesn't change until you hit Wargreymon, so you could use Digivolution as a mechanic with him much more easily, potentially even without having to deal with making three separate characters for the idea. Wargreymon could then be a Final Smash.
If we go by popularity and popularity alone, it's Omnimon, full stop.
I'd rather have Lord British.
So am I. But not for Smash.
Smash Run is a fun mode, but it's not a substitute for a Story mode.
It'd be hell for the players as well. Cause SSE sucks.
I'm still upset for no MM11 content, not even in the Mega Man-themed Spirit Event.
not to mention he keeps getting new forms like charizard
Please no. I've seen Leomon die enough times already.
depends on how you would define mature I suppose. There a definitely common themes but they’re handled differently I think
The games are aimed at an older audience, so don't really expect the anime to get like those except possibly Tamers. Not including the more recent movies that are aimed at older fans of the classic anime.
From what I remember: With the first story, season 1 was fairly light and seasons 2 and 3 had some dark elements with the former had some weird eldritch stuff going on with Kairi (though they didn't go through with it and what they did do was censored) and the latter had a character coming to terms with the fact that Digimon were indeed alive and he was being evil this whole time. The card tamers season became extremely dark near the end.
Well, yes, new characters and stages would be up there. So if you're willing to concede that we could have had more of that in place of some of the vets, then there ya go. It's just that when I've had these arguments before, people have tried to fight me by arguing that somehow the vets were so easy to make in comparison to newcomers that even cutting a large swath of them wasn't gonna get us another newcomer. Which I don't agree with, as even vets in the idealized 4-to-Ult transition had a ton of work put into them. But I've been intentionally vague to avoid getting too far into the weeds with specifics like "how many vets and/or other contents would you have to cut to get a newcomer / new stage" and whatnot.
For real. I don't know about Smash 3DS since I didn't have it, but Smash Wii U single player was downright depressing. I'll almost take Smash 64's over it since what little it has is fun at least.
There’s no almost for me regarding Smash 64. I definitely preferred 64’s modes to Smash for Wii U’s. Break the Targets, Race to the Finish, and Board the Platforms were all a lot of fun. Melee was pretty much a strict upgrade from 64 regarding modes but I did miss Board the Platforms. I never played much of the 3DS game but I’ve heard Smash Run was fun. I misspoke earlier and I meant to say Smash Tour wasn’t great.
I would like that too, actually! I would love to see an Adventure Mode in the way you just subscribed.
Agumon is the series mascot so realistically if any Digimon joins smash its him.
The small amount of new stages I don't think has anything to do with the amount of veteran characters. If anything, it's more likely it's due to the team bringing back 90+ old stages which obviously required a ton of work since aside from the Smash Wii U stages they all come from the pre-HD era.
Shulk and Bowser Jr. for my personal taste are two of the most zzzzzz characters in series history, I would have taken Lucas and Roy in the base game over them any day of the week.
Xenoblade Chronicles is among my favorite games ever but I can understand how Shulk might not appeal to someone not familiar with the game. Monolith Soft has a history of weird looking character designs. My least favorites being pretty much everyone in Baiten Kaitos. Shulk’s outfit is a bit strange but I like him as a character. Smash kind of gave Shulk Reyn’s personality and made him way more goofy than he actually was in his own game.
Well, if we're going to go there, I also would've been more than fine with fewer older stages in exchange for more new stages. Especially if you're agreeing that the old stages took a ton of work, mitigating the possible downside of newer stages potentially being harder to create. I also would've been fine with cutting some veterans in exchange for those new stages if necessary, perhaps a more controversial take than the former.
Yes, they chose to include more veterans instead of more new stuff. That's exactly what I've been saying, and exactly what I mean when I say they made sacrifices in other areas to do EiH. There are upsides and downsides to each option, and EiH isn't automatically superior in all facets.
Well, that's up to you as to who you'd personally prefer. However, by any objective measure I think Shulk and Jr., a highly unique brand new franchise rep and an incredibly popular Mario staple, win out handily in overall appeal and game/roster quality over two JP-exclusive clones...but that's besides the point, because it would never be that two-for-two swap anyway. The point is only that you'd have to make major concessions with the newcomer roster and beyond in order to achieve EiH in the Smash 4 scenario, and I really can't fathom that doing so would've resulted in a better overall product in that case.
Yeah, Sakurai's said that Subspace Emissary was basically like developing an entire second game concurrently with Brawl. As cool as it is to have a story mode where the characters interact, it would definitely take a big chunk out of development.
