Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[Momotsuki]

I'm sure this is a tired out topic, but since I haven't seen it directly discussed yet since coming back - what is everybody feeling about the direction of the roster for the next game? In the broadest sense, what do you expect/want from the next game?

I think it'll either be an Ultimate re-release or "just" another Smash game. I don't think it has to be some crazy reboot with 20 characters or anything silly like that. Maybe a similarly-sized roster to Ultimate, give or take, some newcomers and some potentially necessary cuts (whether or not it's a net increase notwithstanding) and some stages, modes, etc.. Just another Smash outing, really.

Personally, my hope is an Ultimate re-release, reason being that with the foundation already being there, the focus can be on newcomers and more importantly, modes and miscellaneous features. So many of Ultimate's nagging omissions unrelated to the roster could be addressed, all the while having another batch of newcomers and maybe a couple more fighters passes depending on how it all goes. With that being said, I'm open to just about anything, though I would, in general, want to see a heightened focus on the "Games & More" and other such content.

I've seen a lot of people defending Falcondorf because "he's fun" and while I can't agree because I don't play slow and strong heavies, I wouldn't take that away from them because muh references. Even as a Zelda fan, I wouldn't say Ganondorf even needs a full on overhaul. The TOTK incarnation can fit very well with the existing Smash base.

1. Reskin Falcondorf into Deathborn, the main antagonist of F-ZERO GX. Just revert the smash attacks to their pre-Ultimate forms, and make a new Final Smash. The reason I say Deathborn and not Black Shadow is not only because Deathborn is the greater evil between the two in-universe, but his build, physically speaking, is better-suited to the Falcondorf kit.

2. Rebuild Ganondorf from scratch such that he's more faithful to his series' villainous legacy.

3. ???

4. Profit.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I could see Astral Chain and Ring Fit geting a rep for unreped 1st party franchises, maybe Golden Sun for an older franchise.
For 3rd party i think Profesor Layton has a decent chance to get a rep, specially if his new game sells well, Atelier, Tales and Guilty Gear are probably up there too.
I was going to say Genshin Impact and Elden Ring as well, but they have no Nintendo presence so yeah most likely won't happen.

I really don't see Atelier getting in, I don't see it being chosen before other Koei tecmo franchise like Ninja gaiden or even Dead or alive, not I could see it being chosen before other jrpg franchise like Tales of, Nier or Ys or Trails.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Reskin Falcondorf into Deathborn

Looks like it's time for me to bring up a certain mod again because making him Melee Ganondorf is literally how PMEX Remix handles Deathborn (albeit with a couple new tools, one you can see in the thumbnail)

In case anyone asks how it handles Black Shadow (it's a really fun moveset btw)

 

[Momotsuki]

Looks like it's time for me to bring up a certain mod again because making him Melee Ganondorf is literally how PMEX Remix handles Deathborn (albeit with a couple new tools, one you can see in the thumbnail)

In case anyone asks how it handles Black Shadow (it's a really fun moveset btw)

I've played REMIX extensively and it's actually what convinced me that this was the best solution to the Ganondorf "problem."

 

[Gengar84]

I've seen a lot of people defending Falcondorf because "he's fun" and while I can't agree because I don't play slow and strong heavies, I wouldn't take that away from them because muh references. Even as a Zelda fan, I wouldn't say Ganondorf even needs a full on overhaul. The TOTK incarnation can fit very well with the existing Smash base.

I’ve been a Ganondorf main since Melee and while I do find him a lot of fun to play, I’m also open to a complete overhaul of his moveset. I play Ganondorf more because I like the character and less because I’m partial to the moveset. I’d still miss it but I already prefer his Melee gameplay to anything since. What I’d love to see is an amalgamation playstyle using his trident and magic mostly pulling from OoT and his earlier appearances as Ganon. Ganondorf’s Melee moveset can be brought back and given to someone like Black Shadow or Deathborn for a second F-Zero rep.

 

[SpecterFlower]

every other fighting game series deals with cuts.

even if they are cut in the next game they can come back like 6 years later. cuts aren't forever.

cuts are how you get situations like A.B.A.

I’ve been a Ganondorf main since Melee and while I do find him a lot of fun to play, I’m also open to a complete overhaul of his moveset. I play Ganondorf more because I like the character and less because I’m partial to the moveset. I’d still miss it but I already prefer his Melee gameplay to anything since. What I’d love to see is an amalgamation playstyle using his trident and magic mostly pulling from OoT and his earlier appearances as Ganon. Ganondorf’s Melee moveset can be brought back and given to someone like Black Shadow or Deathborn for a second F-Zero rep.

smash is mostly about the party and fun, playing as your favourite characters.

i think better representation for characters themselves fits that more.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I've played REMIX extensively and it's actually what convinced me that this was the best solution to the Ganondorf "problem."

The alternate Ganondorf moveset with a sword also feels like possible solution. Outside of the side-B being completely different, he generally feels like Falcondorf with longer hitboxes. His forward smash is even the same one he has in SSBU!

 

[superprincess]

I’ve been a Ganondorf main since Melee and while I do find him a lot of fun to play, I’m also open to a complete overhaul of his moveset. I play Ganondorf more because I like the character and less because I’m partial to the moveset. I’d still miss it but I already prefer his Melee gameplay to anything since. What I’d love to see is an amalgamation playstyle using his trident and magic mostly pulling from OoT and his earlier appearances as Ganon. Ganondorf’s Melee moveset can be brought back and given to someone like Black Shadow or Deathborn for a second F-Zero rep.

Yeah, I understand that, I actually used to want the same exact thing but over the years, especially after Ultimate, I realized that at the end of the day, the appeal of playable Ganondorf is controlling the bearer of the Triforce of Power. The King of Evil. He's merciless and disrespectful. And in a weird roundabout way, Falcondorf perfectly captures that... making him a magical zoner or a swordfighter would definitely tune down his disrespectful nature because he'd have to be balanced around projectiles and disjoints. A good example of this is Sephiroth, who despite being ruthless and very powerful in his original game, had to be very toned down in some areas in Smash due to his giant sword and projectiles. So he ended up feeling rather fragile.

Also, OoT is an ancient depiction of Ganondorf and at this point, so are WW and TP. The most recent one that will likely be his basis for the next Smash, TOTK, fits very neatly into the Falcondorf base. He has a sword (smash attacks) but he can also charge up a slow, powerful attack with the Gloom Club (Warlock Punch) and lunge forwards in a quick burst of movement with the Gloom Spear (Wizard's Foot). TOTK Ganondorf also kicks you when you get too close to him, so he can even realistically use most (if not all) of Falcondorf's close range brawling tools. There's also gloom/malice serving as a perfect replacement for Falcondorf's vague dark purple magic energy. See? He doesn't need as many changes as people think.

 

[Perkilator]

Re: Ganondorf

I made my own overhaul if anyone's interested.

 

[RodNutTakin]

I think it'll either be an Ultimate re-release or "just" another Smash game. I don't think it has to be some crazy reboot with 20 characters or anything silly like that. Maybe a similarly-sized roster to Ultimate, give or take, some newcomers and some potentially necessary cuts (whether or not it's a net increase notwithstanding) and some stages, modes, etc.. Just another Smash outing, really.

Personally, my hope is an Ultimate re-release, reason being that with the foundation already being there, the focus can be on newcomers and more importantly, modes and miscellaneous features. So many of Ultimate's nagging omissions unrelated to the roster could be addressed, all the while having another batch of newcomers and maybe a couple more fighters passes depending on how it all goes. With that being said, I'm open to just about anything, though I would, in general, want to see a heightened focus on the "Games & More" and other such content.

Finally, someone who understands the exact same mentality I have as to why I'd prefer a port.

 

[Deleted member]

I really don't see Atelier getting in, I don't see it being chosen before other Koei tecmo franchise like Ninja gaiden or even Dead or alive, not I could see it being chosen before other jrpg franchise like Tales of, Nier or Ys or Trails.

I mean i think Ys and Trails are kind of in a similar level, specially atfer Ryza.
Good point with with the other series you mentioned, though.

 

[Gengar84]

Yeah, I understand that, I actually used to want the same exact thing but over the years, especially after Ultimate, I realized that at the end of the day, the appeal of playable Ganondorf is controlling the bearer of the Triforce of Power. The King of Evil. He's merciless and disrespectful. And in a weird roundabout way, Falcondorf perfectly captures that... making him a magical zoner or a swordfighter would definitely tune down his disrespectful nature because he'd have to be balanced around projectiles and disjoints. A good example of this is Sephiroth, who despite being ruthless and very powerful in his original game, had to be very toned down in some areas in Smash due to his giant sword and projectiles. So he ended up feeling rather fragile.

Also, OoT is an ancient depiction of Ganondorf and at this point, so are WW and TP. The most recent one that will likely be his basis for the next Smash, TOTK, fits very neatly into the Falcondorf base. He has a sword (smash attacks) but he can also charge up a slow, powerful attack with the Gloom Club (Warlock Punch) and lunge forwards in a quick burst of movement with the Gloom Spear (Wizard's Foot). TOTK Ganondorf also kicks you when you get too close to him, so he can even realistically use most (if not all) of Falcondorf's close range brawling tools. There's also gloom/malice serving as a perfect replacement for Falcondorf's vague dark purple magic energy. See? He doesn't need as many changes as people think.

Yeah, I think I’m just partial to his OoT inspiration since that’s always been my favorite version of the character. I think I’m near the end of Tears of the Kingdom but I’ve been side tracked by various other games so I’ve still never actually beaten it. I was planning to finish the game once I beat Triangle Strategy again and see the true ending. I agree that he should keep his power theme but I think a little magic can be thrown in there as well. His movesets from Hyrule Warriors also fit the character really well and would be fun to see adapted to Smash. I like the idea of pulling from the entire history of the character for the moveset rather than focusing on just one version. I’m looking forward to that final boss fight in TotK though from everything I’ve heard.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I am forever tired of people trying to pawn off Ganondorf's moveset onto an F-Zero character.

It will forever be a bad idea.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I am forever tired of people trying to pawn off Ganondorf's moveset onto an F-Zero character.

It will forever be a bad idea.

But what if we gave it to Don Genie

 

[superprincess]

I am forever tired of people trying to pawn off Ganondorf's moveset onto an F-Zero character.

It will forever be a bad idea.

Quick, ask them how Flame Choke would fit an F-Zero racer.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I am forever tired of people trying to pawn off Ganondorf's moveset onto an F-Zero character.

It will forever be a bad idea.

I don't mind the idea of having someone like Deathborn or Black Shadow as a clone of Ganondorf(based more around his Brawl/4 design), but that's as far as I'd go. And it would be a neat middle ground between Falcon and the current Ganondorf.

Even then, Samurai Goroh is my favorite option for another F-Zero character.

 

[CannonStreak]

I don't mind the idea of having someone like Deathborn or Black Shadow as a clone of Ganondorf(based more around his Brawl/4 design), but that's as far as I'd go. And it would be a neat middle ground between Falcon and the current Ganondorf.

Even then, Samurai Goroh is my favorite option for another F-Zero character.

Ah. I wanted Samurai Goroh, too. I still think he could work as a fighter, but nowadays, he seems very unlikely.

 

[Louie G.]

It would have been fine if the would-be moveset for Ganondorf was placed on an F-Zero racer all the way back in Melee, but now it always comes off as a disingenuous solution to pawn off Ganondorf’s kit.

It would be great to see another F-Zero character, its roster is kind of a natural fit for a fighting game design-wise despite not having a lot of concrete material. But the only way this is ever discussed being one of them taking the bullet for Ganon does the series a disservice. I’d be down with Black Shadow but it’s hard to tell who actually wants him and who just sees him as a bandaid. Beyond that, I’d still love if they added Samurai Goroh.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Quick, ask them how Flame Choke would fit an F-Zero racer.

Uh.

Black Shadow bad.

Choking bad.

Nailed it.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Uh.

Black Shadow bad.

Choking bad.

Nailed it.

Deathborn choked Black Shadow in the first story mode cutscene.

Therefore Flame Choke works :V

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Deathborn choked Black Shadow in the first story mode cutscene.

Therefore Flame Choke works :V

Ironically, something like that inspired Flame Choke for Ganondorf!

It's from one cutscene in TP. LMAO

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Ironically, something like that inspired Flame Choke for Ganondorf!

It's from one cutscene in TP. LMAO

Am I a genius or am I a genius?

 

[Gengar84]

I don’t really understand how moving Falcondorf’s moveset to another F-Zero character is a bad idea but clones and echoes as a general concept aren’t. It’s not like the F-Zero characters have any actual attacks to pull from so they’d have to be entirely made up anyways. You could make the case that any character could be unique, therefore all clones are bad. How is an F-Zero Falcon clone bad specifically?

I’d honestly much sooner take Black Shadow as a clone than Impa or Dixie Kong. The latter two have actual moves to pull from and tons of interesting ways to be unique. Black Shadow doesn’t really make any less sense with Ganondorf’s Melee set than Falcon himself made with his own moveset in Smash 64. How does Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, or Raptor Boost make any more sense for a racing character than Flame Choke?

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I don’t really understand how moving Falcondorf’s moveset to another F-Zero character is a bad idea but clones and echoes as a general concept aren’t. It’s not like the F-Zero characters have any actual attacks to pull from so they’d have to be entirely made up anyways. You could make the case that any character could be unique, therefore all clones are bad. How is an F-Zero Falcon clone bad specifically?

It's not the idea of making the clone.

It's the idea of adding the character JUST to pawn off someone else's moveset because it "fits them better".
Like if Black Shadow/Deathborn were already in and the originator of the cloned moveset, that'd be one thing and no one would raise any issue.

But it's the fact it's Ganondorf's moveset as a "hand me down" just to rework Ganondorf without any actual value put into the "replacement" otherwise.

 

[Louie G.]

I don’t really understand how moving Falcondorf’s moveset to another F-Zero character is a bad idea but clones and echoes as a general concept aren’t. It’s not like the F-Zero characters have any actual attacks to pull from so they’d have to be entirely made up anyways. You could make the case that any character could be unique, therefore all clones are bad. How is an F-Zero Falcon clone bad specifically?

It's not inherently a bad idea, IMO at least, but it's kinda lousy that the discussion only comes up when related to copy pasting Ganondorf's moveset onto someone else. I think if we had a Black Shadow or Deathborn semiclone that played like Ganon with Flame Choke back in Brawl, and Ganon wasn't a clone in the first place, nobody would really bat an eye... like you said, Captain Falcon is all made up anyway.

It's just that for a decade now this emphasis is put on them as this savior that will rid us of Falcondorf once and for all and keep the moveset to please absolutely everyone, which is not only pretty unrealistic but also just dismissive of these characters as... actual characters. Lots of people throw around Black Shadow under this context and rarely ever actually feeling passionate about the character or thinking about what would be best for them. Speaking of Impa, it actually is kind of similar to how people just want to slap her on top of Sheik and call it a day.

 

[Gengar84]

It's not the idea of making the clone.

It's the idea of adding the character JUST to pawn off someone else's moveset because it "fits them better".
Like if Black Shadow/Deathborn were already in and the originator of the cloned moveset that'd be one thing and no one would raise any issue.

But it's the fact it's Ganondorf's moveset as a "hand me down" just to rework Ganondorf.

Well one of Sakurai’s reasons for not wanting to change Ganondorf are that people are attached to his current moveset. Since F-Zero is no longer relevant these days, I feel like a clone is the only realistic chance of getting another character. What’s the harm in letting people still play the moveset through another F-Zero character? The original source is from the series anyways and Ganondorf was always out of place as a Falcon clone. I feel like this would be the best of both worlds and I’ll never understand the opposition to it.

 

[Schnee117]

I don’t really understand how moving Falcondorf’s moveset to another F-Zero character is a bad idea but clones and echoes as a general concept aren’t. It’s not like the F-Zero characters have any actual attacks to pull from so they’d have to be entirely made up anyways. You could make the case that any character could be unique, therefore all clones are bad. How is an F-Zero Falcon clone bad specifically?

I’d honestly much sooner take Black Shadow as a clone than Impa or Dixie Kong. The latter two have actual moves to pull from and tons of interesting ways to be unique. Black Shadow doesn’t really make any less sense with Ganondorf’s Melee set than Falcon himself made with his own moveset in Smash 64. How does Falcon Punch, Falcon Kick, Falcon Dive, or Raptor Boost make any more sense for a racing character than Flame Choke?

The issue with giving Ganondorf's moveset to an F-Zero character is that it's generally backed by the sentiment of preserving the moveset and pawning it off like its sloppy seconds. It isn't done with any intent on actually honouring the F-Zero character. It's just "oh well people like the moveset so uh... Black Shadow can have it I guess" because they looked at Black Shadow, saw he was vaguely evil and think that's enough. No one cares about the character.

Echoes/Clones aren't inherently a bad thing either but as we can see with Ganondorf, it's something that can and has gone wrong before with him being incapable of breaking free from the mould of Captain Falcon's moveset for over 20 years now. Moreover you see some people who actually give proper careful consideration to who should be a clone/echo of another character in the game and then you see people who think Black Knight can work as an echo of Ike because they heard the two use sister swords but ignore the giant set of armour in the room.

A lot of people don't actually care about the quality of the roster so long as the number goes up.

 

[Laniv]

It's gonna be wild when Jody Summer gets added to Smash 6 as a lighter faster Falcon with Zero Suit Samus' Down B

 

[cashregister9]

Papyrus Undertale

 

[Gengar84]

The issue with giving Ganondorf's moveset to an F-Zero character is that it's generally backed by the sentiment of preserving the moveset and pawning it off like its sloppy seconds. It isn't done with any intent on actually honouring the F-Zero character. It's just "oh well people like the moveset so uh... Black Shadow can have it I guess" because they looked at Black Shadow, saw he was vaguely evil and think that's enough. No one cares about the character.

Echoes/Clones aren't inherently a bad thing either but as we can see with Ganondorf, it's something that can and has gone wrong before with him being incapable of breaking free from the mould of Captain Falcon's moveset for over 20 years now. Moreover you see some people who actually give proper careful consideration to who should be a clone/echo of another character in the game and then you see people who think Black Knight can work as an echo of Ike because they heard the two use sister swords but ignore the giant set of armour in the room.

A lot of people don't actually care about the quality of the roster so long as the number goes up.
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I guess but I still don’t see the harm in it. Falcondorf was always a bad idea (at least after Melee’s time constraint excuse) and the moveset always made more sense for another F-Zero character. Dorf was our only cross series clone and he had so much more potential. F-Zero is no longer very relevant and would only likely get a character through a clone anyways. Clones are much less resource intensive than a full character so I think it’s a good way to give the series another character while still letting current Ganondorf players play the moveset. To each their own I guess.

 

[Noipoi]

Papyrus Undertale

Sans Undertale

 

[SPEN18]

Ah, yes, I remember Samurai Goroh had a pretty respectable number of requests back in the day. Kind of a forgotten man in speculation now.

At the moment we're honestly pretty fortunate that Captain Falcon is seemingly a pretty safe return. Makes sense to give more spots to other series while F-Zero is what it is, but I could see someone like Goroh becoming a big bandwagon if they ever released a fully new F-Zero. Holding onto hopes for that.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Well one of Sakurai’s reasons for not wanting to change Ganondorf are that people are attached to his current moveset. Since F-Zero is no longer relevant these days, I feel like a clone is the only realistic chance of getting another character. What’s the harm in letting people still play the moveset through another F-Zero character? The original source is from the series anyways and Ganondorf was always out of place as a Falcon clone. I feel like this would be the best of both worlds and I’ll never understand the opposition to it.

This is very "characters are just functions" mentality if I'm being frank.

Like imagine if was the exact same as they are in Ultimate, but it came with a complete revamp of and the only purpose Dark Samus served was to "preserve the old moveset".

Same series or not, making someone a "hand me down" devalues their existence as if they had no reason to be in the game otherwise.

 

[Gengar84]

This is very "characters are just functions" mentality if I'm being frank.

Like imagine if was the exact same as they are in Ultimate, but it came with a complete revamp of and the only purpose Dark Samus served was to "preserve the old moveset".

Same series or not, making someone a "hand me down" devalues their existence as if they had no reason to be in the game otherwise.

Not at all. Like I said before, I play characters because I like the character, which is why I’m totally on board with a Ganondorf revamp despite him being my main since Melee. Clones in general would qualify as “characters are just functions” by that logic. All clone characters have to make some sacrifices to their potential as unique characters and would be just as much “hand me down” to their source character as Black Shadow would be to Ganondorf. We should have never gotten Lucina or Dark Samus I guess. That makes absolutely no sense.

 

[DarthEnderX]

I've seen a lot of people defending Falcondorf because "he's fun" and while I can't agree because I don't play slow and strong heavies, I wouldn't take that away from them because muh references.

Neither would. I'd just give it to Black Shadow.

Because people who like Falcondorf clearly don't care about Ganondorf as a character. Because if they did, they'd want him to have a moveset that, ya know, actually represents his character. They only care about the moveset, which means they shouldn't care what character uses it.

Enter Black Shadow. A character with no predefined moveset, with a similar dark lord aesthetic, that would make it so Falcon's clone is actually someone from his series.

I am forever tired of people trying to pawn off Ganondorf's moveset onto an F-Zero character.

It's not Ganondorf's moveset. It's Falcon's.

It's trying to pawn off an F-Zero character's moveset onto an F-Zero character. Seems pretty approprate.

Quick, ask them how Flame Choke would fit an F-Zero racer.

The same way every single move in Falcon's moveset fits an F-Zero racer?

It's the idea of adding the character JUST to pawn off someone else's moveset because it "fits them better".

AKA "preserving a moveset for those that enjoy it, so that another character can be remade as a better representation of themself."

An absolute good that you're trying to pass off as a bad thing.

It's just that for a decade now this emphasis is put on them as this savior that will rid us of Falcondorf once and for all and keep the moveset to please absolutely everyone, which is not only pretty unrealistic but also just dismissive of these characters as... actual characters.

It's literally the opposite of that. It's recognizing Ganondorf as an actual character, and not just a collection of functions, for the first time ever in Smash.

While giving F-Zero a reason to have it's main villain in the game.

It isn't done with any intent on actually honouring the F-Zero character. It's just "oh well people like the moveset so uh... Black Shadow can have it I guess" because they looked at Black Shadow, saw he was vaguely evil and think that's enough. No one cares about the character.

That's bull****. Because even if you do care about Black Shadow, he has no preestablished moves! He's a blank slate, just like Falcon was.

Which means, unlike with Ganondorf, there's nothing about the Falcondorf moveset that conflicts with Black Shadow's character. Because there's nothing to conflict with.

This is very "characters are just functions" mentality if I'm being frank.

No. Keeping Ganondorf as Falcondorf is the "characters are just functions" mentality.

 

[superprincess]

This is very "characters are just functions" mentality if I'm being frank.

Like imagine if was the exact same as they are in Ultimate, but it came with a complete revamp of and the only purpose Dark Samus served was to "preserve the old moveset".

Same series or not, making someone a "hand me down" devalues their existence as if they had no reason to be in the game otherwise.

Omg I was just about to say this!

I always see suggestions like "[Original character] should get a revamp based on [Recent game] but [Clone character] should return to preserve the old moveset" and it always rubs me the wrong way? Like, these characters are more than just functions, they have more merits than just keeping the scraps of their original character, while said original character gets to grow and change according to their series.

Like, if Samus gets a Dread revamp or Peach gets a Showtime attack, it'd be really disappointing if Dark Samus and Daisy returned with basically no touchups, just to preserve the function of SSBU Samus and Peach.

 

[Gengar84]

I just hope none of you people arguing against Black Shadow as a Falcon clone are the same ones who think Impa should replace Sheik and take her moveset. There seems to be a lot more acceptance toward that idea despite Impa having way more potential to be a unique character than Black Shadow does.

 

[superprincess]

I just hope none of you people arguing against Black Shadow as a Falcon clone are the same ones who think Impa should replace Sheik and take her moveset. There seems to be a lot more acceptance toward that idea despite Impa having way more potential to be a unique character than Black Shadow does.

Impa replacing Sheik is one of my least favorite Smash fan opinions ngl. It's an insult to both and accomplishes nothing other than an arguably less recognizable character being on the roster. You lose Sheik who's iconic to Smash and a staple while also allocating resources to a new character who's not even a new character because their moveset is old and fans will hate that. Worst of both worlds.

OOT Impa as a Sheik clone though? Sign me up

 

[HyperSomari64]

If Koei Tecmo had a bigger representation in a future Smash, Nintendo should re-use assets from Barbara in Brawl, and replacing her with Gitaroo Man.

 

[cashregister9]

If Nintendo wasn't full of cowards they would give us Old Impa.