Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[fogbadge]

I think I can do both: hear me out... 5-Volt.

go on

 

[Ivander]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Ashley, Fawful, Geno and Captain Syrup.
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That aside, nothing tugs strings more than an implication of something you want to happen may be happening or may be just nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1bb3y0r/satoshi_okano_sega_concept_artist_keeps/

Obviously grain of salt and whatnot, but man, it sucks when it's something you want to happen and it just as likely might be nothing at all or something different.

 

[chocolatejr9]

go on

Well, TBH, I'm not the most knowledgable on WarioWare, but I know at least three things about 5-Volt: first, she's canonically a gamer, so if you're one of those people who wants a character with a moveset that references old-school Nintendo games she's an option for that (though admittedly 9-Volt would probably be a better choice for that). Second, she apparently has some sort of shadow monster thing she can use in Get It Together, which could maybe be used for Specials. Lastly, she canonically lifts weights. I'm not sure how relevant that last one is, but I figured I'd mention it.

 

[Kirbeh]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Long

Spoiler

Ice Mario (echo with ice attacks)

Metal Mario (more extreme Mario clone stats wise)

Gooigi (clone with extra range; he's made of goo so think of him stretching his limbs for certain attacks like forward smash)

Dry Bowser (semi clone)
Paper Mario
Pauline
Waluigi
Toad
Toadette (semi clone of Toad)
Captain Toad (with Toadette as some of the alts as well)
King Boo
Fawful
Midbus (semi clone of Bowser)
Geno
Mallow
Peachette (semi clone of Peach)
Dr. Luigi (clone in a similar vain to our current Doc)
Nurse Peach (not the existing Nurse Toadstool or Dr. Peach designs but more of a Smash original design that builds off the way Doc is designed. Veggies would be swapped for the actual little viruses.)
Mary O.

Extended Mario universe if we're counting DK, Yoshi and Wario

Dixie
Funky
Cranky
Tiny
Kamek
Poochy
Captain Syrup
Mona
Ashley
9-Volt
5-Volt

Mothers, counting 5-Volt from the previous list

Any number of the Fire Emblem ladies because there are too many to list.

Impa
Urbosa
Nia
Chun Li
Jun Kazama
Sophitia Alexandra
Dizzy
Vanilla

 

[DarthEnderX]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day?

Captain Toad/Toadette.

Ignore this

Don't tell me what to do!!

 

[Noipoi]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Waluigi. It’d be a meme come true.

Also Geno, just to finally get him in here. If it doesn’t happen next time it’ll probably never happen.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

with a bunch of "Woody vs. Xenanort"-style cutscenes where you're supposed to think these cute characters getting mad at the darkness is badass, but it's just laughable. Unless you're 12, then you think it's da coolest

Any examples? It's a standard story not different from most Nintendo games. Unless you mean that a serious story and not an ironic one.

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Geno and possibly Nabbit.

Also hoping Piranha Plant not getting cut

 

[Speed Weed]

Ashley, Fawful, Geno and Captain Syrup.
---
That aside, nothing tugs strings more than an implication of something you want to happen may be happening or may be just nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1bb3y0r/satoshi_okano_sega_concept_artist_keeps/

Obviously grain of salt and whatnot, but man, it sucks when it's something you want to happen and it just as likely might be nothing at all or something different.

I don't think Okano is working at SEGA anymore, is he? Would be very weird if he happened to know anything about this.

That said, SEGA vs. Capcom would be absolutely awesome but I do also think it'd be really interesting to observe - I feel like this falls into a really interesting situation where a large chunk of the stuff people ask for would probably never make it in, so I wonder how an actual SvC roster would be received with that in mind

 

[Laniv]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Toad (with Toadette as an echo)
King Boo
Pauline
Lakitu (as a Bowser Jr. semiclone?)
Nabbit

And as for extended verse Mario friends...

Dixie Kong
Cranky Kong
Mona
Jimmy T.
Captain Syrup

 

[cashregister9]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Pauline
Funky
Ashley

Ashley, Fawful, Geno and Captain Syrup.
---
That aside, nothing tugs strings more than an implication of something you want to happen may be happening or may be just nothing.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GamingLeaksAndRumours/comments/1bb3y0r/satoshi_okano_sega_concept_artist_keeps/

Obviously grain of salt and whatnot, but man, it sucks when it's something you want to happen and it just as likely might be nothing at all or something different.

I would be shocked if this is anything other than overpriced Street Fighter 6 Avatar cosmetics or something else along that line.

 

[Ivander]

I don't think Okano is working at SEGA anymore, is he? Would be very weird if he happened to know anything about this.

That said, SEGA vs. Capcom would be absolutely awesome but I do also think it'd be really interesting to observe - I feel like this falls into a really interesting situation where a large chunk of the stuff people ask for would probably never make it in, so I wonder how an actual SvC roster would be received with that in mind

Yeah, it was mentioned in his bio that he is a former Sega concept artist. Sure, it's not impossible for former staff to possibly know stuff or have some idea, but taking it with a grain of salt is still necessary. And even then, even if he does know something, it could still be for something different, like say Costumes for SF6 or whatnot.

And yeah, despite what some people think, I can see a Sega vs Capcom roster being very different than what people have in mind. I mean, it can go either way since Sega is trying that whole marketing campaign regarding their older franchises, which a Sega vs Capcom can both benefit the campaign and benefit from it. But still, best to keep those expectations in check, especially for a first title.

 

[Sucumbio]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Personally, Toad for sure. Waluigi and Geno for the fans. King Boo for the awesome Factor and Goomba for a mook/wtf pick.

wait what's this about mothers day? It's in May...

 

[fogbadge]

Personally, Toad for sure. Waluigi and Geno for the fans. King Boo for the awesome Factor and Goomba for a mook/wtf pick.

wait what's this about mothers day? It's in May...

maybe your Mother’s Day

 

[Laniv]

...Huh.

I learned something new today.

Anyways, Kangaskhan for Smash 6

 

[BritishGuy54]

Yep, it’s Mother’s Day in the UK. The USA has to wait two months for their Mother’s Day.

Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

I’m not really too sure. Nia is a decent candidate, but I feel like she fits better as an assist trophy, and also in her XC2 design.

 

[7NATOR]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

For Mario Characters:

I would like a Dark Bowser Alt and Dry Bowser alt, that both change the Fire Colors.

For Actual Characters, Geno is very Cool, and Waluigi is fine, would be interesting to see how they Implement his Lanky body and weirdness. for any Mario Adjacent series, Ashley is cool, but if she stays a Mii Costume and Assist that's alright

Mario also has Characters I'm actively against becoming playable in Paper Mario and Pauline for reasons. I don't usually mind what characters get into Smash, but I do not want to see those 2 as playable Characters, but for people that do want those 2 in the game, keep cheering them on since everyone has different interests and such


For Mothers:

There's not really alot of Mothers in gaming I think. I would have said Chun-Li since she did adopt Adopt Li-Fen, but Li-Fen considers Chun-Li her Big Sister, not her Mom

So for me, the Only option is either Jun Kazama from Tekken, or you can go with Cooking Mama, and both aren't that Realistic, especially Jun.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Happy Mar10 Day!

Artist is Kween99 on Reddit.

 

[BuckleyTim]

Fully anticipating that Sega and Capcom collab rumours will only end up with overpriced sonic avatar costume crud in SF6, but a man can dream all the same...

 

[Scrimblo Bimblo]

Mario characters I want: Toad

Mothers I want: 3

 

[Wonder Smash]

Or maybe could be SF costumes for the rumored Virtua Fighter 6 game?

 

[superprincess]

Spoiler: long

I never at one point said to call him TOTK Ganondorf. Where did you even get that from? That's quite clearly just referring to him specifically in context of describing how he's absolutely too different from all the other ones. And yes, Demon King Ganondorf works fine to separate him. It doesn't matter if that can refer to another version to begin with. It's clearly a different one in Smash. It's not like Smash doesn't have blatantly bad names. Changing Pikmin & Captain to just "Captain [Character]" was a blatantly incorrect and misleading name. It holds zero accuracy to how the character operates. Or do we need to go into the even worse Duck Hunt Duo? The character was designed as a Trio specifically, making the name just as inaccurate. Not every name is suddenly "perfect". Difference is this would hold at least some accuracy compared to those godawful dub changes. And they can still find a better name if they try.

Also, again, that doesn't work for Ganondorf compared to the others. He is the same person in canon. Until TOTK where he's explicitly a different person(but also is a different one in FSA too, who does not appear in Smash either, so it's moot). Zelda and Link started as combinations of more than one character. Ganondorf did not.

They don't treat Zelda and Sheik as the same person in Smash anymore either. 4 already separated them, but then suddenly, Ultimate made it clear they're different people. Zelda in ALTTP isn't treated as the same as OOT Zelda either. It's a different incarnation. They just have enough of the same personality to work with a similar enough moveset(and also the same overall build and known skills are close enough). The only true point is Zelda is at least a somewhat combination of more than one. Which is more or less why Toon Zelda appearing as playable is extremely unlikely unless they remove the Phantom, since that's literally her core and most known ability other than being able to shoot Light Arrows directly for the first time(which... was already pretty much absorbed by Zelda and Sheik anyway).

Those name examples don't really make sense either as a comparison; Dark Samus, Dark Pit, and Dr. Mario existed prior to Smash. Of course it was simple. All it means is they need a better name. Besides that, they started to use a very cartoony design in Skyward Sword. People quite clearly didn't confuse that Link for the Toon Link design despite that. The issue doesn't exist. People only need to see "Oh, yes, they mean this Ganondorf" and it takes nothing to understand it's clearly a specific person/take on the character.

TOTK Ganondorf is most definitely not going to be the current Ganondorf overhauled. It has zero chance to happen. He operates way too differently, far more than even the weird BOTW Link design(which was already a pretty major change in practice . At least the freaking changes weren't so different his functions were turned into someone all new. And that's already ignoring the fact it was a terrible change in practice, due to botching it by destroying how good Link was at the time for a pretty mediocre set of changes that failed a lot to both encompass why BOTW was fun while making Link less fun to use from his previous self). Sharing a bodyshape isn't enough to justify an overhaul(and we have the lesson of why it didn't work. It was a legitimately interesting attempt, but it showed that just updating to the latest game isn't actually what makes a character good. What makes them good is actual balance updates that doesn't try to change their core too much. Losing so much of his game for a promotional change was a poor design. They did too little to make him worth the real update). Ganondorf became better without trying to make him like the latest game(despite the lowest tier, his viability shot up), and that's not how they treated Zelda either, who got a significant improvement.

Finally, let's be clear that TOTK Ganondorf being a separate person isn't not just the first time where he has a massive role while doing so, but due to his major differences, it's impossible to paste him onto the current Ganondorf without too much of an overhaul. Which is really why it won't be more than a reference(at best). Characters don't get such extreme overhauls, as it's too alienating. That's a factual design factor. The sword doesn't even make sense. He may be a costume and some aesthetics, but his influence won't be high either way. You're still getting Falcondorf back. He isn't leaving. If you want one that uses what TOTK Ganondorf can do? You get another all new character or you can rely on Game Mods at best. Which is far more likely the latter anyway. We're unlikely to even get another Zelda character. Though I'd like one to also keep in mind the only actual Zelda characters ever planned was Toon Zelda and Toon Sheik(no, Tetra was not planned in the game. Obviously if they revisited the idea, she has a reasonable chance. But she probably would get in before Toon Zelda, who is pretty clearly represented in the current Zelda). Yes, two more clone characters were the only other planned Zelda ones.

Honestly, even trying to compare Ganondorf's situation to the others just doesn't work. He was never in the same position. They don't even bother to combine him with the WW one, who has zero presence in the moveset beyond arguably a costume. Something to keep in mind here is that Ganondorf's appearance in Brawl all the way to Ultimate is the same person, just older. This is not the case at any point for Zelda, Sheik, or Link. They were the only ones to upgrade to using skills or designs from a different person. Why would that change for Ganondorf outright(moreso for an overhaul that wouldn't make sense, due to too many differences). Besides, Link was not based upon OOT only even in Smash 64. He already couldn't use the Boomerang, which is a skill from other versions. Upthrust and Downthrust were not a skill that Link could even know. Those skills did return... during TP for the first time again(and that was mainly Downthrust. Upthrust generally doesn't see any use beyond the fighting game takes on Link, but that's due to no more sidescrolling games anyway).

You see, if TOTK Ganondorf was pretty similar to the earlier different Ganondorfs at all, this would make sense to take influence from. But... he isn't. He clearly uses the same core model shape, but that's it. They're way too different, and he has no relation to them. Why do you think Ganondorf returned to his OOT design in Ultimate? It wasn't just because of the Sword alone. It's because there was no other to exist that would fit his current moveset or personality. He's still a smug evil man. But he has mannerisms that went unchanged. The sole real difference was the massive decrease in speed(as I noted, the armor idea was a big weird, and to say the least, despite clearly being the same core character, was a massive change alone on its own that made him harder to adjust to in Brawl. While also ironically holding quite a lot more accuracy to the source material).

Either way, he won't get some big overhaul. Nobody does. Is it possible for him to get some influences? Sure. But there's not really much to take beyond a Calamity Ganon Final Smash(due to functioning overall as an easy design swap). You can't really change the weapon outright due to them functioning differently. He doesn't fight similarly enough for it to make sense(even the Ganondorf in TP has more in common with the OOT one). He got his overhaul quite enough(which is mostly minor and doesn't change that much). As I said before, we learned what trying to hard to "add a promotional new design can do", and it made Link really bad. And it's even lucky they didn't have to entirely change his core(if they did, it wouldn't have happened. That's the reason they couldn't work with Skyward Sword. He doesn't have the right options to really update with, or give very similar skills). It should also be noted this is why WW Ganondorf wasn't used. Because while sharing quite a bit with certain skills, his fighting style doesn't mesh with any of Smash Ganondorf's at all. TP Ganondorf had a few moves that were a bit easier to put onto Ganondorf while updating him, but not changing his core. TOTK Ganondorf... isn't in that boat. He's just... highly different.

You could even call the fact that Ganondorf never updates to a different person, sure. But why would he? He already has a very fitting moveset that directly focuses on his skills as a human and is barely missing much of anything. All he lacks is; his energy ball(which at least was more coded to him than DMV, as he didn't even introduce the move in 3D. His clone did. But it was still meant for Aga and boss fights only), maybe the earthquake punch(which is already pretty much Warlock Punch. It does help it's pretty much the same animation and impact, just done differently), the ability to reflect projectiles(a skill he actually needs in Smash to be far more viable), and his teleportation(which can be argued if it would work better than Dark Dive or its variants. We wouldn't know without seeing it in practice. That said, he doesn't use it much as a human, so it's not necessarily that important. Dark Dive does actually encompass his ability to float to a minor degree, funnily enough).

A lot of people actually do care that they're different people. Casuals included who know the story. Like, he's nothing like the other Ganondorfs. In fact, this is also why people question some choices. You think Young Link and Toon Link automatically mesh well with everyone, even casuals? They know they're different people and still care. Some really don't like the idea of separate Links. And no, they aren't competitive players either. This does exist. Trying to paint them all under the same brush isn't a reasonable way to find accurate data. Here's the best way to put it; "nobody cares" is always going to be wrong. And is a bad argument because of it. It's never a worthwhile one to make. We at least have some remote data of people hating massive overhauls due to alienating playerbases(and it's from the creator of Smash himself). It's not the best data either. But it's actually findable.

I do also notice you're quite clearly trying to make my argument very very different here. If you really tried to boil down my argument to "he's a different person" and that's it, you didn't really read into exactly why it didn't work. Why they don't combine Ganondorf with Ganon's skills. Or anything like that. He is nothing like the other Zelda characters, who exist entirely on a different design philosophy. You could even say the fact he was created as a clone first in mind is exactly why he'll never get that kind of overhaul. The others did because they functioned on a different design level. They all used skills from different people under the same name, had it hard made up, or even more specifically, were a combination of more than one person. A composite. Ganondorf, unlike the others, was never designed as a composite character. Just a clone that also further became more accurate to Ganondorf's portrayal... in the games that star the same person, anyway. Ganondorf in TOTK functions quite differently from the other three Ganondorfs. Thus, him being used to overhaul the current one has no real chance because it doesn't fit the mold. Being lightly referenced? Could happen. Being a Spirit? Probably more likely. Being a separate character? Definitely more likely than some illogical overhaul that destroys the core of the character(and if Link is any indication, even a more minor overhaul like that was proven to be a bad idea).

At the end of the day, the name of a second Ganondorf is irrelevant. Casuals will recognize him immediately once they simply play him and see his design. They know it's a different take on the character. It's not even a matter of being a different person or not in that particular case. The only actual challenge is a good name. It's still more likely than some overhaul. Since that goes completely against how Smash works in practice. He's a cool design, but too different. He's pretty much the equivalent of SS Link here; nothing that can clearly be used to properly update Ganondorf anyway while not changing his core. And nobody's core was ever changed in the history of Smash. Expecting it now is ultimately a fun dream.

In the context of Smash, it doesn't matter at all that each Ganondorf is a reincarnation of the same person whereas the Links and Zeldas are always different people. Smash treats all of them the same—as iterations of the same character. Even Link's BOTW overhaul was not that substantial, and mostly changed his aesthetics; the only exceptions were his lack of a tether grab and his remotely detonated bombs, which is way less changes than people expected. Also, I don't know why you're so against Link's portrayal in Ultimate being solely BOTW... this is blatantly who Link is now, to a huge amount of people. His green tunic even remains in his alts, and Young/Toon Link remain in the game, so we've got everything covered. The presence of an exclusively green-clad adult Link is just an extravagant request based on on the Zelda series' (and as a result, SSB's) precedent.

Also, I feel like you didn't even read my other post because I thoroughly explained how TOTK Ganondorf can remain virtually the same as Falcondorf, with a few aesthetic updates to match the new game and very few moveset changes (literally two throws would change, which wasn't even a 100% certain suggestion). There's no need to have two Ganondorfs at all, it'd be straight up weird and a waste of resources. No character gets this treatment unless they're a huge deal to their franchise (so Mario, Link and Samus having different versions makes sense), much less an alternate version that has a totally unique moveset... ZSS is the only one and her circumstances are very special. And I don't think TOTK Ganondorf should get in as a semiclone either, because he straight up is the Ganondorf of his game and doesn't exist alongside another. His art style, age, status, etc. aren't different enough to include him as a separate person on the CSS, like Young/Toon Link and Sheik, whose differences to their original partners more than justify their separate presence. He's literally just Ganondorf from a more recent game. Including him would be like including both OOT and TP's Links as different characters, which didn't (and wont) happen. And don't repeat the "But TOTK Ganondorf is too different from the current Smash Ganondorf!" point because... we got OoT and TP Ganondorfs mostly sharing the same moveset in Smash. One is a floating mage and the other is a grounded swordfighter. Yet Smash portrays them very similarly, almost identically. So TOTK Ganondorf can fit perfectly in the moveset with a few minor adjustments like the ones I suggested before.

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Pauline, Toad, Toadette/Peachette, Waluigi, King Boo... Mario has plenty of great options, and Paper Mario isn't one of them half joking

As for Mothers, I can't think of any gaming mothers aside from (technically) Rosalina. Who already is in Smash. Also I must be missing something because I'm sure Mother's Day is sometime in May... is it different for Americans or what?

 

[Guynamednelson]

is it different for Americans or what?

No, that's when American Mother's Day happens, fogbadge is Scottish

 

[Mushroomguy12]

As for Mothers, I can't think of any gaming mothers aside from (technically) Rosalina. Who already is in Smash. Also I must be missing something because I'm sure Mother's Day is sometime in May... is it different for Americans or what?

Samus is a mother... but she's also already in Smash.


And yeah while Father's Day is celebrated on the same day for the US and UK, Mother's Day is celebrated two months earlier in the UK than the US.

 

[Gorgonzales]

Snake should be in Smash Bros.

No, I mean the actual snake.

Yeahhhhhh.
An assist trophy of it would be cool, where the Snake is basically a wall/soft-platform entity that's contstantly moving and collecting dots to increase its length. Heck, I wouldn't mind a Snake stage where it's the only platform (It'd probably be a lot longer and move slower in this version lol). Sounds like a great chaotic casual stage.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

New games on NSO.

 

[Will]

New games on NSO.

Shoutout to the dude who looked at the task of creating Mario sports games for the Gameboy and said “Oh, this is 100% JRPG material.”

 

[chocolatejr9]

Shoutout to the dude who looked at the task of creating Mario sports games for the Gameboy and said “Oh, this is 100% JRPG material.”

TBF, wasn't Camelot known for JRPGs at the time?

 

[Mushroomguy12]

For Mario characters:

Paper Mario
Pauline
Waluigi
Toad/Toadette
Birdo

Extended Verse:
Dixie Kong
Ashley
Mona
Jimmy T
Captain Syrup
Funky Kong

 

[HyperSomari64]

If Rhythm Heaven is part of the Mazza Extended Verse, then there should be a Mr. G&W-like character with their moveset based on the minigames.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If Rhythm Heaven is part of the Mazza Extended Verse, then there should be a Mr. G&W-like character with their moveset based on the minigames.

Oddly enough, that's more what Link was. Mr. Game & Watch was a pretty unique case of a species essentially fused into one moveset. Link however is a combination character of more than one Link into a moveset.

I'm not sure what Mazza would mean, so I don't know if you mean a specific character with alternate versions or more of a species combined?

 

[HyperSomari64]

Oddly enough, that's more what Link was. Mr. Game & Watch was a pretty unique case of a species essentially fused into one moveset. Link however is a combination character of more than one Link into a moveset.

I'm not sure what Mazza would mean, so I don't know if you mean a specific character with alternate versions or more of a species combined?

That's how Mario was nicknamed in a UK Unofficial Nintendo magazine.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

TBF, wasn't Camelot known for JRPGs at the time?

Yes, before making Mario sports game (and even before Golden sun) they were working on Shining force with Sega.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's how Mario was nicknamed in a UK Unofficial Nintendo magazine.

Ah. Still, I'm not sure what you're asking for in regards to the moveset. Do you mean taking a character who has multiple versions and fusing them into one moveset, or what are basically a species and throwing them together?

...To be fair. Mr. Game & Watch is a very unique case that has never been repeated(mainly due to never having a single situation in any way).

 

[Gengar84]

Is this a bad time to ask everyone what Mario characters they want in smash cause it’s Mario day? Or indeed what mothers they want in smash cause it’s Mother’s Day?

Unfortunately, I don’t think mine are particularly likely, but these are the Mario characters I’d be most excited for:

Goomba
Goombella
Wart
King Boo
Dry Bowser (using Melee Bowser’s moveset)

 

[Will]

TBF, wasn't Camelot known for JRPGs at the time?

You don’t wake up one day and decide your next RPG is just playing Golf.

Unless you’re a genius like that guy at Camelot.

 

[Gengar84]

I just beat my first playthrough of Triangle Strategy and thought it was a lot of fun. I must have done something wrong because I got what seemed like the bad ending but there’s a New Game+ and it seems like the game has a ton of replay value with all the different routes you can take.

While I don’t think she’s particularly likely, I think Frederica Aesfrost would be a really interesting character for Smash. She’s a pyromancer that has a lot of pretty cool abilities that could translate well.

Heres just a general overview of some of her skills. Not really a fleshed out moveset but it helps show the general idea. Mild spoilers if you don’t want to know specifics on her skills.

Spoiler

First, every character in the game uses a resource system called TP. Each character gets 1 TP per turn and their skills use varying amounts of TP. They can do standard attacks that don’t cost any TP in order to build up for more powerful skills in later turns. Something like this could work for Smash too but it’s not really required.

Frederica’s fire magic attacks have a secondary effect of setting flammable terrain on fire that lasts several turns and damages anyone that ends their turn on the square. This could work great for Smash to set damage zones.

She has a pretty unique skill for a pyromancer that creates a Flame Shield around a character. The shield both makes the target immune to fire attacks for a few turns and causes anyone that attacks them physically take magical recoil damage.

Another skill, Blazing Chains damages a single target and slows their movement for a few turns.

Her ultimate attack, Sunfall, consumes all her TP and casts a huge area attack after a turn of casting that deals damage based on how much TP she used. This could make for a cool Final Smash.

 

[Ivander]

You don’t wake up one day and decide your next RPG is just playing Golf.

Unless you’re a genius like that guy at Camelot.

You know what Tennis games need nowadays? Hitting the Tennis ball with Blizzards, Poltergeists, Tidal Waves and Meteor showers.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

New games on NSO.

You can add any Mario game from the NES, SNES, N64, GB, or GBA (that isn't already on NSO) to this list to add to Nintendo Switch Online for Mar10 Day, what would you pick?

I pick Mario Paint.

 

[cashregister9]

You can add any Mario game from the NES, SNES, N64, GB, or GBA (that isn't already on NSO) to this list to add to Nintendo Switch Online for Mar10 Day, what would you pick?

I pick Mario Paint.

Mario Pinball Land

 

[Laniv]

I gotta say, seeing so many people list Toad as one of their most wanted characters warms my old, shriveled heart