Thats just cause Sans has an unhinged fandom attached to his series, Not to crap on Undertale or Sans but I definitely saw some overblown reactions for Sans.
Yeah but a ton of people HATED what MVC3 and UMvC did in terms of the cuts and newcomers, no Megaman ****ed with People
a revision of my hypothetical would take what you said, Id cut Pichu Young Link, maybe Toon Link, either Incineroar or Greninja, Diddy, Dr Mario, Corrin, maybe Roy.
It's weird, because when I played MVC1, One of my Favorite characters to play was Mega Man himself, But I guess I was fine with him not being in UMVC3 and just having Zero in there
Like If Mega Man (whether Classic or X) was in there, that would be better, but I guess I"m not someone that gets that hung up on Absenses like that if the New characters are Badass
As another Example, With FighterZ, It was Unfortunate that Broly wasn't on the Base roster (even if he was one of 1st DLC) but I was fine with it Because I had Hit, and Especially Goku Black in base
So that's why I sure the Newcomers hit. There's always going to be the wish that old Favorites could also return, but I think it's more important for New Stuff to be in there as well
This would honestly have the opposite affect for me, for the rest of the games lifespan, I would be asking "How could you cut Rosalina and then add someone as niche as Geno"
I'm just guessing the Geno would probably be played more Since While I think he would be Flashy and have some Timed hit Shenigans, He'd be simple to Pilot. Rosalina is cool, but not many play her like that because she is such a Specliazed character
We do need characters like that in the roster because it adds varieties and appeals to minds that might not be like me or your's, but that's where I'm going with it
To be fair, I’ve always thought Doctor Mario should have been a costume instead of a full character. I never really understood why he was there besides being easy to make. There must have been some other clone that was more deserving of a spot than Mario in a doctor’s outfit.
The Pill makes all the Difference.
It might sound hypocritical coming from me since I'm someone that's against the Idea of Paper Mario being on the Roster, and Honestly if Dr.Mario was proposed today, it would get an eye from me in terms of him being a Seperate character
But now that he is here, I'd be sad to see him go because the Doctor's Outfit is just too snazzy, especially in Black, but I like all the colors, which we wouldn't get if he was just a Alt costume of Regular Mario. It also adds some interesting lore about this Mario focusing on Doctoring instead of Platforming, which is why he's so Slow and unmobile, but he knows how to exert more strength from his body and how to hit specfic spots to hit people at weird angles.
Honestly Something like Dr.Mario kind of reminds me that it would be cool if Smash took more from King of Fighters and had some "EX" variations of some of the characters
EX Variations are pretty much different versions of a paritcular character. They are the same character, and have the Same general moveset, but they have some different moves (Particularly Specials) which can effect how they are played
As an example, you have Kyo (Main Character of King of Fighters) who has his regular version with the Rekkas, and then the EX Version that has the Fire Ball.
Maybe we wouldn't get Custom Moves back, but I think it would be interesting to have more than just one way to Play each character. It would allow characters like Ganondorf to get a "More Canon moveset" while still keeping his Iconic "Falcon Inspired" moveset
While we're on the topic of character priority and cuts, I'll share an opinion that might upset some, but feels very reasonable to me.
I think clones/semi-clones who aren't classified as echoes are the biggest risk of being cut. Especially the ones who've already been cut before. So basically, Dr. Mario, Pichu, Young Link, Roy, Lucas, and Wolf.
These characters don't offer the experience of a totally unique fighter, but are also not as low-effort and easy to include as actual echo fighters are. They're very much in a lose-lose situation.
Most of the Cuts in the series have been Clones/Semi-Clones. Most of the ones that weren't (Ice Climbers, Pokemon Trainer with Squirtle and Ivysuar, Snake,) had some Technical or likely Negotiational issues going with them. Mewtwo is kind of the odd case, but some would say that could be attributed to Lucario taking the Reign in some aspects.
So this kind of lines up
It would be a Shame because For me, I typically prefer the Semi-Clones over the Originals, or at least on Equal level.
What are some pure BIAS Most Wanted?
I Know she will NEVER get in in any form, but Marina Liteyears would be just below Shantae for me in terms of hype. Smash Remix is the best I can get and frankly its quality is on par with an official Smash release.
For characters already in, I don't mind Terry, but I would have definitely chosen Kyo or Iori over him, especially Iori. I'd also be down for any of the KOF Bosses in Rugal, Igniz, Orochi, among others. I'd also be down for Throwing Shermie in there with her Orochi form
Actually for Fighting games characters in General, I'd rather just choose the Boss characters or the Edgier characters, or even some of the Badass, hot Sexy women in the game, even if over the Main Character.
So for Street Fighter, Gill, Seth, and I guess M.Bision as long as he could do his Super Psycho Crusher. Of course I Would Definitly add Akuma in there. I'd play Akuma over Ryu and Ken. I also think Juri would be a much better fit for Smash than Chun-Li, even if I could admit it would be weird to see, but Juri is literally perfect for Smash. Makoto is also cool too.
For Mortal Kombat, Noob Saibot all the way
For Tekken I'm actually glad they Chose Kazuya. even before Kazuya got in, I was always adament that Kazuya or Jin would have been the better pick. My pure bias would be Unknown from the Tag games, but she can't even get into a Mainline Tekken game. However Reina seems cool.
For Guilty Gear, I would choose Ramalethal, I-No, or Baiken.
I'd also put in Yuzuriha from Under Night-in Birth. She does Iaido with a Sephiroth long Blade and she's hot and cool.
Not a Fighting game, but For FNAF, Springtrap over all the others
For Devil May Cry, Vergil over Dante
Even for Non-Video Game Characters I'd prefer Venom over Spiderman, Broly, Goku Black, or Vegeta over Goku (Especially if Majain Vegeta is in there).
I think this is a pretty safe stance to have, the only variable for me is really Wolf. Because Wolf has been cut in the past, but he's also become fairly popular in Ultimate and offers a very very distinct playstyle from Fox. I think there's a universe out there somewhere where Wolf gets in over Falco next time, but it's probably not the most likely scenario either. I wouldn't mind keeping all three but I do have trouble imagining us having that while also cutting like 20+ characters.
I just feel like Wolf is kind of a victim of circumstance in how often he gets lumped into this, I don't think it's entirely deserved but I also hesitate to claim it's completely wrong. He's just in very odd standing. He bears little resemblance with how Fox plays, several of his specials work entirely different and use completely different assets and visual effects, he just happened to be an easy character to toss in last minute because of his similar build and if I'm not mistaken being able to borrow from some other fighters as well. He really came into his own with Ultimate and although I can't say I'm incredibly confident in his return, I would be pretty sad to see him go after such a glow-up. Lucas shares a lot of this too, but also Lucas is totally getting cut.
It kinda makes me question how rigidly we should follow Smash's previous trends and priority. In just bringing back every character who we just automatically assume will come back every game, it does kind of sterilize the roster longterm when we've reached such a big number. Just as a relevant example, would it be the most heinous crime if we cut Falco and kept Wolf? Would it be better to let a character become further realized instead of kneecapping their potential immediately after they return? These aren't rhetorical questions, and they're not questions I really know how to answer yet either, it's just something I've been thinking about. Certainly shedding off some of these traditions that we consider to be a given would make a new roster stand on its own a little bit better, although cutting mainstay characters is always a hot potato nobody wants to touch.
No disrespect to Falco either, I think the whole Star Fox crew is great. Just thinking out loud.
That's something I've always wondered, but was Falco more Popular than Wolf back then? was that why he got into Melee and Not Wolf, and it took until the Last minute of Brawl for Wolf to get in
It would make sense but these days where Star Fox is currently more of a Smash franchise than it's own Franchise, I could see it going either way these days. From that Japan poll on Smash character playrate, Wolf was actually the most Played Spacie of the 3, So he's come into his own.
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