Newcomer: Sukapon (Joy Mecha Fight) *Now with Moveset Sketches!*

[PsychoIncarnate]

Worst character idea ever?

No

he was actually suppose to be in Melee

His chances are good and he would be an unique retro character that would be welcome in Brawl

 

[Super Smash Master]

I gotta make a Sukapon for Brawl banner like I did with Demiru.

 

[Oasis_S]

Worst character idea ever?

You've been drinking more of that failurade haven't you? I wonder why so many young people are attracted to it... What's the appeal? It's poisoning your brain, kid. You best stop before it's too late. Don't drink failurade and post!

Nintendo's first figther for Nintendo's biggest modern fighting game!
SUKAPON FOR BRAWL!

 

[Masque]

Eh, I say to save time with the problems he could create physically, they should put him in as an invincible assist.

No. It's exactly that kind of cop-out that denies other characters--and their respective fans--the opportunity to Smash and should be thus ignored and disregarded. All problems are eventually solvable; it's just a matter of time. If anything, the new Havok engine should assuage any difficulties that may have been had in the past while attempting to implement more unusul characters or characters with specific physics requirements.

Worst character idea ever?

Again, no. This is just ignorant and really warrants little else than a simple denial. No.

 

[Oldskool]

I had one reason they might hold on him, but I can't remember what it was anymore, it was one of those moments were I obsessed over the issue and then forget about... Oh well I don't care anymore...

 

[Super Smash Master]

Feel free to use it.

 

[Masque]

That's awesome! Major kudos to you! :bigthumbu

 

[Super Smash Master]

Thank you very much! :D

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Feel free to use it.

This is cool, but I like the DeMille one better?

 

[Super Smash Master]

Well, I actually sketched the Demiru out. I just used the circle tool for Sukapon. XD

I am gonna go a Lucas, Claus and Takamaru one tomorrow during school though. :D

I already got em drawn and scanned. Just gotta color, shade and animate.

 

[Kereokacola]

I'm sorry, I totally hate this idea, but I'm going to explain why, so don't flame me... yet.

Sukapon... until now did I not know he existed. Let's start with his appearance, very unoriginal and ordinary. He kind of looks like Kirby, but all jello like. To be honest, I thought it was Kirby until I saw all of the body parts flying around. What... is it anyway?

Moving on, your moveset isn't bad, but each move seems like a rehash of the last move. He just doesn't have much going on. And this is a Japan-only character? I could have sworn Sakurai said he wasn't going to include any more Japan-only characters. Didn't he say that? I thought so.

That Devil character is a Japan-only character, but he's just an assist trophy, and I can almost bet if this... thing makes it into Brawl, he'll be an assist trophy. Actually, he reeks of assist trophy.

 

[Oasis_S]

Sukapon... until now did I not know he existed. Let's start with his appearance, very unoriginal and ordinary. He kind of looks like Kirby, but all jello like. To be honest, I thought it was Kirby until I saw all of the body parts flying around. What... is it anyway?

He's a robot. Smash hasn't had a limbless fighter yet, so I'd think it be pretty original. It hasn't had a robot either.

Moving on, your moveset isn't bad, but each move seems like a rehash of the last move. He just doesn't have much going on. And this is a Japan-only character? I could have sworn Sakurai said he wasn't going to include any more Japan-only characters. Didn't he say that? I thought so.

The thing is, those -are- his moves. (Except the Side B) If Sakurai is to stay true to Joy Mecha Fight, then why not pull all his fighting moves from it? Also, he did NOT say he wasn't going to include anymore Japan-only characters. He said he didn't want to include too many, but that he wasn't opposed to the idea of only a few. (Marth, Lucas, Takamaru, Sukapon?)

That Devil character is a Japan-only character, but he's just an assist trophy, and I can almost bet if this... thing makes it into Brawl, he'll be an assist trophy. Actually, he reeks of assist trophy.

Nintendo should honor their first fighting game by putting it's main character in their modern fighting franchise. Let us hope he does not become an Assist Trophy.

 

[WarxePB]

While having floating limbs gives Sukapon unparalleled reach, it also means 6 disjointed hitboxes, all of which are vulnerable to other attacks at the same time. Though it might not make much sense that damage dealt to his hands affects his body, it's really the only way to balance him out; otherwise, you'd have to KO his different body parts separately, which would be annoying as hell. And if he does get knocked back, his limbs just retreat to a "neutral" position like any other smasher's damage animation.

Now try and argue that he won't work for Brawl.

 

[Oasis_S]

While having floating limbs gives Sukapon unparalleled reach, it also means 6 disjointed hitboxes, all of which are vulnerable to other attacks at the same time. Though it might not make much sense that damage dealt to his hands affects his body, it's really the only way to balance him out; otherwise, you'd have to KO his different body parts separately, which would be annoying as hell. And if he does get knocked back, his limbs just retreat to a "neutral" position like any other smasher's damage animation.

Now try and argue that he won't work for Brawl.

What? They'd just have to give him invisible arms and legs. It's not hard...

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

What? They'd just have to give him invisible arms and legs. It's not hard...

N/M why not?

Can they do that?

 

[axemangx]

Sakurai will show us what he can do. Trust me. >_>



Perhaps the head can get knocked back, kinda like a projectile.

Only, it doesnt damage himself from Cape/Magic Cape/Shine etc...

That would make sense.

 

[Oasis_S]

N/M why not?

Can they do that?

Well, I thought about it, and if they gave him very skinny arms, legs, and neck but didn't texture them, then they would appear invisible, and he would be able to be attacked in these areas. It's not complex at all... He would be like any other character really. You just wouldn't be able to see his arms or legs. (It might look strange through various particle effects though, that's why they would be so skinny, so you may not notice it during the fast action battles)

 

[axemangx]

Japan Only Retros= Win.


Seriously, the mechanics for Sukapon really arent that hard.

How bout it moves to the body quickly. Like the limbs. That'd make sense. They could like. This=

You do a Up-Air. The arm that flew upwards quickly flies towards your hand.


Make sense?

 

[Masque]

I'm sorry, I totally hate this idea, but I'm going to explain why, so don't flame me... yet.

Sukapon... until now did I not know he existed. Let's start with his appearance, very unoriginal and ordinary. He kind of looks like Kirby, but all jello like. To be honest, I thought it was Kirby until I saw all of the body parts flying around. What... is it anyway?

Moving on, your moveset isn't bad, but each move seems like a rehash of the last move. He just doesn't have much going on. And this is a Japan-only character? I could have sworn Sakurai said he wasn't going to include any more Japan-only characters. Didn't he say that? I thought so.

That Devil character is a Japan-only character, but he's just an assist trophy, and I can almost bet if this... thing makes it into Brawl, he'll be an assist trophy. Actually, he reeks of assist trophy.

Sukapon is a robot created by Dr. Little Ermin. Originally intended to be a comedian robot that would make people laugh, he was reconfigured to do battle with the robots controlled by the evil Dr. Ivan Warunachi. All of the robots in the game lack limbs; it's not just Sukapon.

As previously stated, the special moves ARE Sukapon's Special Moves in Joy Mech Fight (Joi Meka Faito), save his newly created Up Special. Joy Mech Fight was only released in Japan (back in 1993). Sakurai never said that he would or would not include more Japan-only characters. In fact, he essentially contradicted himself in the statement that he made. He said that he cannot include only "obscure" Japanese characters, but he rightfully notes that both Marth and Roy did quite well in their own right. Sukapon was well represented on both the Melee AND Brawl polls; doesn't that count for something?

And Devil is a minor character from a very obscure game. Devil World is nigh unknown, whereas Joy Mech Fight has developed quite the cult following, even spawning an album of remixes of some selections from the game's (excellent) soundtrack. Devil was not on either Smash poll, whereas Sukapon was acknowledged multiple times on both questionnaires. Don't discount Sukapon just yet--he's a keeper. :bigthumbu

 

[Shuma]

I like this Sukapon, why? 'cause Oasis's sig is amazing.

 

[Oasis_S]

I like this Sukapon, why? 'cause Oasis's sig is amazing.

It's too bad it takes up space that could be used for Ridley though. Although, since Ridley is a shoe-in, I figured I should show more support for Sukapon since he isn't quite garunteed.

Sukapon and Ridley for Brawl!

(And Thanks!)

 

[Derek~Joe]

ya know, Rayman is a better version that Sukapon, why would you want sukapon, he looks boring. jus sayin, at least Rayman has a unique look.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

Rayman would be a sh-tty character, I'd much rather Skapon.

 

[silver777]

ya know, Rayman is a better version that Sukapon, why would you want sukapon, he looks boring. jus sayin, at least Rayman has a unique look.

i am not a Sukapon supporter, but...Rayman..????

Ewwwwww......

 

[Oasis_S]

ya know, Rayman is a better version that Sukapon, why would you want sukapon, he looks boring. jus sayin, at least Rayman has a unique look.

I'm going to assume you're comparing Sukapon to Rayman because neither of them have limbs. Aside from that, do they really have much else in common? Sukapon is much more likely than Rayman, IMO.

 

[axemangx]

Sukapon= Only Retro I want

 

[Oasis_S]

I wonder, when Brawl is released or Sukapon is (hopefully) confirmed on the Dojo, if there will be a bunch of 'Who is Sukapon?' threads while we are happily rejoicing here. I'm not sure how well known he is, but i'd imagine he's not on very many people's lists.

Sukapon for Brawl.

 

[Anti Guy]

I'm sorry, I totally hate this idea, but I'm going to explain why, so don't flame me... yet.

Sukapon... until now did I not know he existed. Let's start with his appearance, very unoriginal and ordinary. He kind of looks like Kirby, but all jello like. To be honest, I thought it was Kirby until I saw all of the body parts flying around. What... is it anyway?

Moving on, your moveset isn't bad, but each move seems like a rehash of the last move. He just doesn't have much going on. And this is a Japan-only character? I could have sworn Sakurai said he wasn't going to include any more Japan-only characters. Didn't he say that? I thought so.

That Devil character is a Japan-only character, but he's just an assist trophy, and I can almost bet if this... thing makes it into Brawl, he'll be an assist trophy. Actually, he reeks of assist trophy.

Play Joy Mech Fight and then you'll know why we all want Skapon (in addition to what Oasis said, which I couldn't have said better). =P

 

[silver777]

I wonder, when Brawl is released or Sukapon is (hopefully) confirmed on the Dojo, if there will be a bunch of 'Who is Sukapon?' threads while we are happily rejoicing here. I'm not sure how well known he is, but i'd imagine he's not on very many people's lists.

Sukapon for Brawl.

people already went "who is Knuckle Joe??" when he was updated on the dojo.

it really broke my heart...;^;

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

In all honesty, I used to be anti-Skapon until I actually played Joy Mech Fight. It's a very fun and fluid fighting game with a very quirky sense of humor. Skapon would bring that sense of humor and fluidness to Brawl.

 

[Shuma]

Oh guys read his name "derek~joe" why do you try to argue with him?

 

[Kereokacola]

You all make good and valid points, but I still don't like the idea of random pink balls floating in the air (uhh, sorry, but you know what I mean.)

 

[Masque]

ya know, Rayman is a better version that Sukapon, why would you want sukapon, he looks boring. jus sayin, at least Rayman has a unique look.

...

*looks at Derek~Joe's post count*

Oh. Mmhm.

*walks away*

I'm going to assume you're comparing Sukapon to Rayman because neither of them have limbs. Aside from that, do they really have much else in common? Sukapon is much more likely than Rayman, IMO.

Agreed. The characters do not act the same way at all, and Sukapon is DEFINITELY more likely for Brawl.

I wonder, when Brawl is released or Sukapon is (hopefully) confirmed on the Dojo, if there will be a bunch of 'Who is Sukapon?' threads while we are happily rejoicing here. I'm not sure how well known he is, but i'd imagine he's not on very many people's lists.

Sukapon for Brawl.

*sigh* Yes, sadly, we will be seeing tons of "LIEK DUDE WTF IS SPANKO?!", along with 50-odd threads created for rather inane reasons that could--and SHOULD--be discussed right here.

You all make good and valid points, but I still don't like the idea of random pink balls floating in the air (uhh, sorry, but you know what I mean.)

Oh, Kero...

Really, though, just play JMF! It won't kill you: I promise.

 

[Brawlmatt202]

In all honesty, I used to be anti-Skapon until I actually played Joy Mech Fight. It's a very fun and fluid fighting game with a very quirky sense of humor. Skapon would bring that sense of humor and fluidness to Brawl.

Glad you've joined our side!

I wish I could play Joy Mech Fight (though I tend to get really frustrated with fighting games).

 

[Masque]

Glad you've joined our side!

I wish I could play Joy Mech Fight (though I tend to get really frustrated with fighting games).

Download an emulator and a ROM! It's as easy as that. If you prefer playing it in your native tongue, however, I might also recommend AlanMidas' translation patch as a nice supplement.

 

[Super Smash Master]

I would like to point out that Sukapon came before Rayman.

 

[Masque]

I would like to point out that Sukapon came before Rayman.

Not to mention the fact that, as far as third-party characters go, Rayman has far stiffer competition among favorites such as Sonic, Solid Snake (confirmed), and Geno. Also, Sukapon means quite a bit more to Nintendo, being the main character in Nintendo's first 2-D fighter.

 

[Super Smash Master]

I wonder what his name would be in Brawl; Skapon or Sukapon?

 

[Oasis_S]

I wonder what his name would be in Brawl; Skapon or Sukapon?

That would be interesting. Mars became Marth, didn't it? (Then again, I don't know much about Japanese, so that may have been obvious...)

I had a dream about Brawl, and Sukapon was one of the characters. I was so happy, but alas, twas only a dream.

 

[Super Smash Master]

I don't think that dream is too far from reality as long as the roster is over 40.