Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Only the tsundere waifu is really worth it out of those 6.

Owain's not a tsundere!

Inigo isn't a Tsundere tho-

Guys! Guys!


He's talking about Brady.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Guys! Guys!


He's talking about Brady.

Um? Gerome?? Come on

 

[BZL8]

I haven’t seen it yet, but I feel I am watching a rendition of The Lighthouse in this thread.

 

[yeet123]

I haven’t seen it yet, but I feel I am watching a rendition of The Lighthouse in this thread.

WOT?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Um? Gerome?? Come on

Cherche's still alive so I could still get Gerome (I hope I do. He looks cool and I've never used him before). Cherche's still unmarried though I don't tend to pair her up because she's on healing duty.

I haven’t seen it yet, but I feel I am watching a rendition of The Lighthouse in this thread.

Dunno what that is but I'm assuming it's a horror movie. Are you predicting our deaths or something?

 

[BZL8]

WOT?

A new film from Robert Eggers (The VVitch) starring Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson as two lighthouse keepers who slowly go mad. Have a feeling people are slowly going mad in this thread.

Dunno what that is but I'm assuming it's a horror movie. Are you predicting our deaths or something?

I am predicting our path to insanity.

 

[yeet123]

A new film from Robert Eggers (The VVitch) starring Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson as two lighthouse keepers who slowly go mad. Have a feeling people are slowly going mad in this thread

WOT? (watch below)

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

I think Geno is a safe bet, what do you guys think?

 

[Wonks]

Not sure where to put this--but a random shot in the dark prediction, just in case it were to come true:

Fighter #5: Heihachi
-Feat. Mii costumes of Jun, Akira Yuki (Virtua Fighter), and Lloyd Irving (Tales of)

Fighter #6: Harry from TeleroBoxer
-More of a standalone like Piranha Plant
-Semi-clone of Little Mac
-Pokemon-esque "trainer" in the background controlling him
-Cross-promotion with a new game by Retro

 

[Calamitas]

A new film from Robert Eggers (The VVitch) starring Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson as two lighthouse keepers who slowly go mad. Have a feeling people are slowly going mad in this thread.

What do you mean, "slowly"?

 

[yeet123]

Fighter #5: Heihachi

I personally would not want Heihachi RIGHT after a different fighting character

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

I'm with yeet123 on this one, no Heihachi. I love the tekken series for what it's worth, but man, two fighting game fighters? naw.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I personally would not want Heihachi RIGHT after a different fighting character

Batsu?

EDIT: I'm dumb. I thought you were talking about likeliness rather than being right after Terry.

 

[yeet123]

This is also my OPINION: i think fighting game characters getting added to Smash is really boring. I personally love seeing how Sakurai and the team adapt moves from other gaming genres into a fighter. W Ken, Ryu, and Terry its kinda copy/paste

 

[BZL8]

I would welcome a Tekken character, but not immediately after Terry.

What do you mean, "slowly"?

The more we try to figure out who’s next, especially after yesterday, the more insane we get.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Dunno what that is but I'm assuming it's a horror movie. Are you predicting our deaths or something?

"EVERYONE IS HERE DEAD"

A new film from Robert Eggers (The VVitch) starring Willem Dafoe and Robert Pattinson as two lighthouse keepers who slowly go mad. Have a feeling people are slowly going mad in this thread.

I am predicting our path to insanity.

Oh, so that's it. Silly you. Were you under the impression there was any sane person here to begin with?

So, quick recap: what rumors are still alive exactly? The costume leak (and the costumes alone) and the Hayabusa claims from Shifty and Brew. Anything else is full guesswork, right?

 

[Nekoo]

I think Geno is a safe bet, what do you guys think?

Geno is a safe-bet for like 20 years now.
Which is Ironic.

 

[yeet123]

So, quick recap: what rumors are still alive exactly? The costume leak (and the costumes alone) and the Hayabusa claims from Shifty and Brew. Anything else is full guesswork, right?

If we're talking specifically Fighter #5, then theres a smaaaaaaaaaaall chance its either Ryu or Crash. Rn its really anyones game

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

dammit that true
both yeet and nekoo

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Can you PM it or should I not be in the loop? I'll keep a secret.


Sorry, but if you're trying to make the evidence force your narrative, you're gonna be beyond frustrated with Smash speculation. I've read enough on the Grinch leak to understand this.

Though, I don't understand why you wont buy second season even if it included characters like 2B or Lara Croft.

Just get in the other channels, you'd get told ASAP

This is also my OPINION: i think fighting game characters getting added to Smash is really boring. I personally love seeing how Sakurai and the team adapt moves from other gaming genres into a fighter. W Ken, Ryu, and Terry its kinda copy/paste

I don't think you get the right to do this if you ever argue "Oh this character I want fits Smash perfectly!". Also my opinion

 

[Jomosensual]

I think Geno is a safe bet, what do you guys think?

For spot 5? I don't expect it. As future DLC though I think he has really good odds

 

[osby]

I personally would not want Heihachi RIGHT after a different fighting character

Funny, because we got Hero right after Joker and a lot of people were asking for Crash/Spyro immediately upon Banjo's reveal.

This is also my OPINION: i think fighting game characters getting added to Smash is really boring. I personally love seeing how Sakurai and the team adapt moves from other gaming genres into a fighter. W Ken, Ryu, and Terry its kinda copy/paste

We didn't even see how Terry plays, aren't you jumping the gun on this one?

Also, Smash is a platforming fighter. Both platforming and fighter game characters are going to be pretty straightforward in adaptation.

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

yeah, I don't think square will take the star spirit off the shelf and see the sun for the final spot.

 

[Deleted member]

I think Geno is a safe bet, what do you guys think?

I don't think Geno is a safe bet for FP5 or future DLC but he might get in anyways there's still some characters Square may want to put in first before him.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

yeah, I don't think square will take the star spirit off the shelf and see the sun for the final spot.

Don't necessarily see him likely as Fighter Pack 5 but for a future character he could definitely happen as a part of a Pass 2 or a Bonus Character.

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

Just wanted to point out that this is actually totally wrong. Ignoring Lucina (who uses the Parallel Falchion exclusively) and Robin (who doesn't have a prf weapon), every Fire Emblem character in Smash uses their endgame weapon if they have one, excluding Chrom (who has the excuse of asset reuse for using the Sealed Falchion over the Exalted Falchion). Marth, Roy, Ike, and Corrin all use their endgame weapons. If Edelgard got in she would absolutely use Aymr.

Just wanted to point out that this is actually totally wrong. Ignoring Lucina (who uses the Parallel Falchion exclusively) and Robin (who doesn't have a prf weapon), every Fire Emblem character in Smash uses their endgame weapon if they have one, excluding Chrom (who has the excuse of asset reuse for using the Sealed Falchion over the Exalted Falchion). Marth, Roy, Ike, and Corrin all use their endgame weapons. If Edelgard got in she would absolutely use Aymr.

Sorry for the late reply. I'll give you the weapon thing. I also forgot that Robin can't use any of his stuff in smash if he doesn't level up his weapon ranks and also can't use nosferatu at all. Chrom (as people have said) does start with his falchion as we see it in Smash, though.

My main point is that we've never seen a Smash character use abilities restricted to their promoted classes. Ike doesn't use axes. Chrom and Lucina don't use lances (they're echoes, so I know they don't 100% count). Corrin doesn't use magic. I don't think we should expect Edelgard to do heavy armor stuff or to have a shield. Moveset-wise, those seem like the most interesting things she would bring, but maybe Aymr could make up for that.

Edit: Unless the reason for the class promotion limitations is that players in FE have the option to not promote, in which case we could see post-timeskip Edelgard abilities, but we don't really know. I'm just skeptical.

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

As for anyone else, I think third party fighters and MABEY ONE ASSIST (sry 4 yellin) could become a fighter. Hell, if we got someone like Harry from TeleroBoxer (check out Wonky's thread) i'd still play the game. This is a celebration for games, and if you don't like the fighter, about millons of people could potentially be waiting for that fighter for thier time to shine. My friend is like, 'geno sux, and so does your opinion'. Like, check out how long the support thread dedicated to the Star Road warrior.

 

[yeet123]

Funny, because we got Hero right after Joker and a lot of people were asking for Crash/Spyro immediately upon Banjo's reveal.

We didn't even see how Terry plays, aren't you jumping the gun on this one?

Also, Smash is a platforming fighter. Both platforming and fighter game characters are pretty straightforward in adaptation.

I disagree.

Cloud, Shulk, Joker, and Hero are all from JRPGs, yet their moves were all translated very differently in to Smash. Mario, DK, Diddy, Kirby, Yoshi, Banjo, etc: all characters from platformers that play differently because their unique platforming movements, not created for a fighting game, were all translated into a fighter.

Since Ryu, Ken, and Terry originate in fighting games, and since we already got 2 of those guys in the game, i think its safe to assume that a fighting game character's transition in to Smash is easy. Do you think Terry's moveset to be substantially different than what he's had in every fighting game?

 

[GoodGrief741]

Inb4 The Lighthouse is actually a hint to the next character and none of us noticed.

(Why yes we are going insane)

 

[Schnee117]

i think its safe to assume that a fighting game character's transition in to Smash is easy.

Sakurai said he couldn't figure out how to adapt Heihachi but okay.

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

Since Ryu, Ken, and Terry originate in fighting games, and since we already got 2 of those guys in the game, i think its safe to assume that a fighting game character's transition in to Smash is easy. Do you think Terry's moveset to be substantially different than what he's had in every fighting game?

Yeah, yeet's right. If we were to add, say, IDK, Akuma, his moveset would have to be mixed from his other incarnations, shin akuma and oni. Obviously, the Shun Goku Satsu would be his final smash, and his other would be the Dejin Hadouken. TL;DR fighting game characters are ez pz

 

[yeet123]

Sakurai said he couldn't figure out how to adapt Heihachi but okay.

didnt know that. fair enough.

I still think my statement holds true for 2d fighters like SF, KoF, etc

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think you get the right to do this if you ever argue "Oh this character I want fits Smash perfectly!". Also my opinion

Duly noted for consistency.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I disagree.

Cloud, Shulk, Joker, and Hero are all from JRPGs, yet their moves were all translated very differently in to Smash. Mario, DK, Diddy, Kirby, Yoshi, Banjo, etc: all characters from platformers that play differently because their unique platforming movements, not created for a fighting game, were all translated into a fighter.

Since Ryu, Ken, and Terry originate in fighting games, and since we already got 2 of those guys in the game, i think its safe to assume that a fighting game character's transition in to Smash is easy. Do you think Terry's moveset to be substantially different than what he's had in every fighting game?

I mean tbf Shulk fights nothing like he does in Smash.

Sorry for the late reply. I'll give you the weapon thing. I also forgot that Robin can't use any of his stuff in smash if he doesn't level up his weapon ranks and also can't use nosferatu at all. Chrom (as people have said) does start with his falchion as we see it in Smash, though.

My main point is that we've never seen a Smash character use abilities restricted to their promoted classes. Ike doesn't use axes. Chrom and Lucina don't use lances (they're echoes, so I know they don't 100% count). Corrin doesn't use magic. I don't think we should expect Edelgard to do heavy armor stuff or to have a shield. Moveset-wise, those seem like the most interesting things she would bring, but maybe Aymr could make up for that.

Edit: Unless the reason for the class promotion limitations is that players in FE have the option to not promote, in which case we could see post-timeskip Edelgard abilities, but we don't really know. I'm just skeptical.

At the same time Marth uses stuff that isn't from his own games, Dolphin Slash is based off of Thracia 776's Myrmidon crit animation and Dancing Blade is based off of Astra. Also isn't the Omega Yato proof of the contrary of your claim?

 

[yeet123]

I don't think you get the right to do this if you ever argue "Oh this character I want fits Smash perfectly!". Also my opinion

theres a difference between saying a character should be in the game and saying a fighting game character would have a fairly easy transition in to smash

i feel like you always create arguments rather than discuss the topic at hand

I mean tbf Shulk fights nothing like he does in Smash.

Thats the point. Its exciting to see characters and their moves from other genres of games adapted in to a fighting game

 

[Fenriraga]

Geno is a safe-bet for like 20 years now.
Which is Ironic.

I hate how right you are.

 

[MasterDuelist_24]

Who do you guys want as your most wanted? No rules. No BS. Your desires.

 

[Will]

I mean tbf Shulk fights nothing like he does in Smash.

you say that like its a good thing

Thats the point. Its exciting to see characters and their moves from other genres of games adapted in to a fighting game

he doesnt even hold the monado right

 

[yeet123]

he doesnt even hold the monado right

hes really feeling it tho

 

[Will]

Who do you guys want as your most wanted? No rules. No BS. Your desires.

No rules, huh?