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The Console Wars don't exist. They're something made up by fans to justify which machine they purchased.
Really? Where do you get these numbers, because nintendo has always done quite well for itself, save for the wii u.
Apart from the Wii? And the handheld market? And the NES and SNES era? And the fact that most western sites have robust Nintendo reporting sections?
The point wasn’t about liking or disliking different things. Of course they are.
You didn’t deserve a warning for that, but I’ll answer you. It’s off-topic discussion, and I’ve had those talks in the past, only to learn that many people can’t handle them.
you know your argument's good when you gotta bring in console war bull****
Y'all do realize that if it weren't for Terry/King of Fighters, Smash may not have even been a thing, right?
I at least appreciate that you’re one of the few people honest about why you’re disappointed. You wanted a waifu, you didn’t get a waifu. I like cute anime girls as much as the next guy, and I think your priorities are silly, but I can at least appreciate the fact that you’re not trying to take some moral high ground on the issue. You didn’t get what you wanted and are disappointed, that’s fair.
I can almost certainly guarantee that these aren't the same groups of people. I'd argue people who want another Fire Emblem character are among the least likely to throw another character under the bus for being "boring" or "undeserving." Mainly because it's been thrown in our own faces enough as it is, lol.
This is the reuploaded. The original is even older (2007)!
I'm intrigued what 'maturity for a civil discourse' means here. Especially when using ResetERA in the pejorative has an air of already deciding you disagree with what their argument may or may not be.
I guess. I mean, I personally don't really know. I wasn't making any statements about anyone in particular, rather the Smash community as a whole. That's why I made the disclaimer when I threw Geno fans under the bus. I'm not keeping tabs on what specific characters certain people who say certain things want. I'm just pointing out the general hypocricy in the reaction to Terry as a whole in hope that at least some people will have a little chuckle at themselves over how silly the whole thing really is.
My argument however is that people who think the addition is "bad" should learn to have a more open mind, as they might actually enjoy it more if it weren't for their entitlement. There were tons of additions I did care for at all in Smash 4, yet I learned to appreciate all of them for the mechanical elements they brought to the table. At the very least, the people crying about Terry have a chance to learn about a company they weren't familiar with, something I didn't get with any of the Smash 4 newcomers, as I'd already played all their games.
I'm not touching the topic man, sorry. Wanna hear more about it, DM me about it, idk.
Relative to most of the other 3rd party franchises that are in the game, I think it's fair to call King of Fighters obscure (Fatal Fury even more so), or maybe niche if you prefer that. I don't think that's because of any tunnel vision from the community, in fact Smash fans are probably more likely to know the series due to some overlap with the FGC, where as your average gamer will have no idea what it is. And that's fine really, people just need to accept that not every 3rd party character that is included needs to be some legendary icon of gaming as a whole, now that we're creeping up on 80 characters in total I see no reason not to widen the horizon.
Palutena alone wasn't considered Kid Icarus bias, she was highly expected, had a lot of fans, and almost everyone were in agreement that she deserved to be in. There was a very convincing fake leak with her that most people believed, and the overall reaction was just something to the effect of "Ok, cool", it was honestly a pretty boring fake leak because everyone considered her an inevitability regardless of whether it was real or not. The complaints mostly just stemmed from Dark Pit's inclusion, which coincided with the reveal of the full roster, which meant he was an easy target for disgruntled Mewtwo, Ridley and K. Rool fans, who would also bring up the high amount of items and Smash Run enemies that were present from the series.
Oh dont worry I know exactly what both our arguments would be, and that we wouldn't convince each other of anything.
you can't possibly be implying that all people who think terry would be boring also want FE characters...
No. Never in my post did I say "all" nor did I say anything along those lines.
The only problem is the use of the text "All Rights Reserved", which Smash ignores all the time for copyrights, even if the original game uses them. Also, no credible leakers have backed Terry or any SNK characters up.
Would verge or sabi still have no credibility in your eyes if they did end up being correct?
Neither have backed up any SNK character. All Verge has done lately was debunk the "female character with a mecha" rumor. And, Sabi's been backpedaling lately.
Both have come out publically to say Terry in the last few days. If that changes your mind
Last I checked, Banjo was a pretty western pick
He was a very popular request in Japan as well.
The vest way to close it out would be with Phoenix Wright. Using the last spot for a meta joke on how Phoenix never give up and turns the tables at the last second is perfect.
The fact that you don't want to talk about it to me shows how mature you actually are and I respect that. You hardly see people like this anymore.
It seems like the only one here who is taking it personally is you, but I'll indulge. I think Terry is rather boring and would much rather a Metal Slug character get into smash, as it brings a boatload of new things to smash, such as another gunner archetype, new playstyle, and the ability to actually use a tank on the battlefield. Terry just seems to be a basic physical fist fighter that already has a moveset prepackaged, meaning there isn't much room in the way of creativity. A character that is just a basic fistfighter with next to no abilities that the average person couldn't perform. That doesn't make for an interesting smash fighter, and looks even worse when compared to the craziness that would be a Metal Slug fighter.
I'm expecting it to be another character who has massive popularity in the East who is almost unrecognizable in the West.
I legitimately think the Capcom crew (Phoenix, Jill, Leon, etc) are the strongest candidates for the last spot. Nearly all of them are from currently unrepresented genres or subgenres and their potential moves practically scream "crossover fighting game". And considering Capcom is relatively easy to work with (they have the largest amount of content in Ultimate), it sounds like they would be both a hype and "safe" way to end the Fighters Pass.
I’m glad Sakurai is finally listening to the rest of the world, not just Japan.
I mean, as mature as a person can be for arguing about video games on the internet. Lol.
Yeah, that’s not what I mean though. C’mon man. Who did you want BEFORE the SNK leak happened that didn’t get in. I mean, I preferred Mai, but I’m happy any SNK character got in. Terry’s the most obvious “Sakurai” choice and the safest pick, but you’d see me defending Marco the way I do Terry all the same. I love Metal Slug.
I don't think that they are doing another Western-balancing.