Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[MrElectroG64]

Well if y'all wanna sum up how you feel about each pick, you can use this roster maker

Here's mine

Here's mine, a slightly convoluted tier list based on the likelihood to be playable.

EDIT: I'm having problems with smashboards right now, so I hope people can see it, because right now I can't...

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[Proceleon]

How and when has Gwen even been considered an name for boys?

For the love of all that is good, Do Not give Tumblr ideas!

 

[SuperSmashStephen]

FP6: Ribbon Girl or Min Min
FP7: Rex & Pyra
FP8: Urshifu
FP9: Sora
FP10: Heihachi
FP11: Geno

Maybe replace one with Euden.

Ribbon Girl or Min Min because we know we are getting an ARMS character. Allegedly as a request. Ribbon Girl is also the face of the franchise alongside Spring Man and was revealed along side him. Min Min is the most popular fighter and the producer of ARMS favorite as well.

Rex & Pyra because time constraints are no longer an issue. (Ala an ARMS character now making it in.) Highly requested. Was originally planned to be in the game but wasn’t due to time.

Urshifu to promote the new Sword and Shield DLC. Not that it really needs the promotion but also because it’s Pokémon, and Pokémon sells. “But they had a Spirit Event.” That’s nice, but they can also just add more Spirits from Sword and Shield. They’ve got plenty to choose from, and we also don’t know what all the DLC will bring. Though Urshifu can only become one form during the game, many Pokémon have creative liberties when it comes to their Smash incarnation. Urshifu could change Forms or they may even decide to go with Kubfu.

Sora. Oh Sora, how I long for thee to be in Smash. I think now is the time. Kingdom Hearts is insanely popular. Huge in Japan. Sora is very highly requested. He will be our internet breaker this time around. People keep saying it’s not possibly because of Disney. People says he is disconfirmed because an insider’s speculation that was then immediately followed by that same insider saying he thinks he could be in the game. His reveal will be all that more astronomical because people have already said it couldn’t/wouldn’t be done.

Heihachi Mishima. I think this will be Nintendo saying thank you to Namco for helping development with the game. Sakurai wants him too, and has stated he was originally planned for Smash 4. Just like other characters before him that were supposed to be in one iteration but didn’t make it due to whatever reasons but are now in. I think Heihachi doubles as a thank you to Namco and Nintendo letting Sakurai have something he wants ala Terry Bogard.

Geno. Saving him for last would be incredible way to end Smash Ultimate DLC. It would make so many people in the Smash Community explode with joy and excitement. I don’t personally want or care for him but I know a lot of people do. Sakurai wants him as well and I think it’d be awesome for him to finally see this character come to realization in Smash.

Edit: This is all speculation. I am almost certainly wrong, but I do believe this list to be highly probable. Out of all the characters on this list, I only want one. Sora. Urshifu and Min Min would be cool. The others are just what I think we will get.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I keep forgetting that they werent in smash 4.

They were shown early in the Everyone is Here trailer for a reason.

 

[Ace C.R.O.S.S.]

I'm so ****ing tired of people seeing someone on the internet called Gwen and assume they're talking to a guy, how much more obvious do I need to make it?

Erm, sorry? I was distracted, so i really didn't notice the name.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

EDIT: I'm having problems with smashboards right now, so I hope people can see it, because right now I can't...View attachment 267613

There doesn't seem to be an image there at all.

EDIT: Wait what? It just appeared in the quote when I posted. Either I'm unobservant or something weird just happened.
EDIT EDIT: It...doesn't seem to load though.

 

[MooMew64]

I mean, I'd say they had an opportunity with Splatoon in 4, though I completely understand them waiting until they knew they had a bonafide hit on their hands

Splatoon was just in the same vein as ARMS; it was too late. DLC for 4 was probably already planned well before Splatoon's release. If Smash 4 had a second round of DLC, Inklings probably would've made it.

 

[Will]

There doesn't seem to be an image there at all.

EDIT: Wait what? It just appeared in the quote when I posted. Either I'm unobservant or something weird just happened.
EDIT EDIT: It...doesn't seem to load though.

images are down

based smashboards never fixing its problems as always

 

[Cutie Gwen]

But Gwen, your pfp is very masculine looking so obviously that means you're male as well!

Smh Valkyrie got shafted so hard in her show people think she's a dude too I hate Toei so goddamn much

 

[Will]

Smh Valkyrie got shafted so hard in her show people think she's a dude too I hate Toei so goddamn much

I'd buy a Figma of her. If I had the money to buy them

 

[Deleted member]

I'm so ****ing tired of people seeing someone on the internet called Gwen and assume they're talking to a guy, how much more obvious do I need to make it?

Gwen is a guy's name? I've only met women with that name.

 

[Will]

Gwen is a guy's name? I've only met women with that name.

Yeah, just like how Ben is a girl's name. Never heard of Bennifer?

 

[MrElectroG64]

There doesn't seem to be an image there at all.

EDIT: Wait what? It just appeared in the quote when I posted. Either I'm unobservant or something weird just happened.
EDIT EDIT: It...doesn't seem to load though.

I think I'm having internet problems on my end of the website. I'm sure I'll be able to get the image uploaded eventually lol.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

To be fair, it's hard to know who is a guy or girl at times on forums

That and Gwendal.



It's literally right there if you click on her name...

Literally don't even have to click on it, if you're on desktop it takes 5 seconds to mouseover a username.

 

[Lamperouge]

Smh Valkyrie got shafted so hard in her show people think she's a dude too I hate Toei so goddamn much

I'm a dude, he's a dude, she's a dude

we're all dudes

 

[Deleted member]

What if the Arms rep was the small yellow thing which commentates matches and his moveset is using all the Arms fighters from the game's roster for specific moves?

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah, just like how Ben is a girl's name. Never heard of Bennifer?

No. I've never heard of Bennifer before.

 

[Lamperouge]

Literally don't even have to click on it, if you're on desktop it takes 5 seconds to mouseover a username.

I've been stuck with mobile Smashboards so I wouldn't know that.

 

[Opossum]

Bit of a random question, but I'm curious.
Out of ALL the playable franchises currently in Smash, which one(s) would you add a new Fighter to?

- Waluigi Number One. He's one of my favorite Mario characters and his absence still kinda sucks. I'd rectify it immediately.

- Daruk. I love Gorons and think Daruk could be a really fun character. He may not be a recurring character but he's the literal representative of a very recurring species.

- Chandelure. It's literally the most popular Unova Pokémon, and it was incredibly fun in Pokken. It's also one of my all-time favorites.

- Oh man how long do you guys have? To keep it comparably brief, Edelgard, Caeda, Celica. Slower armored character who can string together powerful hits to make up for the lack of mobility, a Pegasus Knight who is an aerial master with speed and power, but whose large size balances her out, and a magic swordswoman who powers up her spells by casting from her own health, making her the ultimate glass cannon. Also throw in Merric out of pure personal bias so I can have my dorky wind mage.

- Dr. Eggman. The more mech users the better.

- Blathers. I love owls. I love the museum. Let Blathers summon fish and bugs to attack and go Night at the Museum on people with his Final Smash as he reanimates a T-Rex fossil.

- There are so many I'd love. Doc Louis makes a ton of sense as a Little Mac semiclone. Glass Joe is the ultimate joke character. King Hippo would be a great super heavyweight. Mr. Sandman would be a terrific Lightning Bruiser.

- Chun-Li. She just makes way too much sense. Also Dhalsim because he's my favorite.

- Gonna go full bias and say Barret. He's my favorite FF7 character and he has a gatling gun for an arm.

- Alucard would be literally perfect with all the cool things at his disposal. Also Sypha because she's a joy in the Netflix series.

- Put in Rab. I like Rab.

- When Bear and Bird have Smashed on Switch, there's one more step: now add the Witch. For real though Gruntilda would be great.

 

[MrElectroG64]

screw it, I just uploaded it to my Flickr account and will just link to it there for my tier list.

Here ya go: https://www.flickr.com/photos/184893183@N07/49712536533/in/dateposted-public/

 

[Calamitas]

What if the Splatoon rep was the small yellow thing which commentates matches and his moveset is using all the Arms fighters from the game's roster for specific moves?

Then I'd wonder where Inkling went.

 

[Heoj]

I dont know about yall but when i hear the name gwen i think of ben 10s sister

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I dont know about yall but when i hear the name gwen i think of ben 10s sister

Wasn’t she his cousin?

 

[P.Kat]

Rodin, he's looks cool as **** and as the franchise's super boss, he certainly has more than enough to pull from, all that'd need toning down is the cigar and remove the aftermath of his Raging Demon
Terra Branford, FF6 is one of the most highly praised FF games from what I can see, and while more 7 content is a neccesity, I think a more mage-y character could be fun alongside her Esper form
Dixie Kong, she's the only character who feels missing and Tropical Freeze got shafted kinda hard in Smash
I was considering saying Jessica Albert but I'm not sure how to handle her sex appeal (no literally it's a stat for her which gives her many sexy-themed abilities) so I'd say Erik, a quick knifewielder may already be in the game, but Erik's abilities include Rubblerouser and it's stronger version, which allow for stage control, and Doppelganger, which lets him hit 3 times in 1 attack, I'd like to see how this gets handled alongside his status effects
Maya because people need to acknowledge Persona 1 and 2 goddammit
Bandana Dee, like Dixie, very much feels missing, which is a shame, the little guy's cute as hell and has a goddamn Spearcoptor attack
Ghirahim, my favourite Zelda villain to watch, his snazzy look, his charming mannerisms, his diamond daggers! Yes, he pretty much has it all
Vivian, the Paper Mario games are beloved and no original character seems to be as beloved as the little ghost lady, ghosts aren't really a thing in Smash when it comes to playable characters so all the **** one could pull is exciting
I wanna say Edelgard but I'm giving this to Claude, Smash's track record with bow wielders is laughably bad as Byleth is the only one who uses a bow differently from everyone else with a bow, and it's for their Nair. Plus, a seemingly once in a lifetime chance for an Arabic coded character for Smash
Zero needs more fighting games to be top tier in, cool character, crapton of moves and I'd say his AT is more than enough proof that Sakurai's aware of his fanfavourite status
Kumatora, the character who had their gameplan stolen by Lucas, PSI is piterslly whatever the **** you want it to be in Smash, she's also a cool character in her own right
Aggron, how can you NOT adore a big ass metal dragon looking beast, Aggron's a badass with not one, but two types Smash has yet to explore, which leads to interesting ideas for moves, maybe they'll get Stealth Rock to temporarily block out a section of the stage, maybe they'll get Metal Burst which has Aggron absorb hits for as long as down B is held only to keep the charge and dispells the charge as an attack when pressed again. Good **** all around
Hades, a charismatic asshole who's well liked by pretty much the entire fandom, if people can suggest Medusa being scaled down, then Hades should too
Chun-Li, the first lady of fighting games, popular enough to score her own solo live action movie and possibly our first explicitly Chinese character in the game, say whatever you want, but admit it, as soon as you saw her name here, you knew exactly why she has the star power to get in the game
Rhundas, he's pretty popular, has a godlike boss theme and Smash doesn't seem to use ice in many ways that Rhundas could
Elma, Elma stands out from the rest of the cast visually, would be our second dual wielder and has a ****ton of cool **** to pull from. Also I feel bad for how little X has in Smash, even if it's because of music rights and I found X to be rather disappointing, Elma's such a unique Nintendo character from design alone to the point she's the only character in XB2 to not look like utter garbage when adapted to that game's artstyle
SHANOAAAAAAAAA! Order of Ecclesia is the best ****ing CV game with the best goddamn OST and she may quite possibly have the most unique moveset out of anyone from her franchise, also I'm gay as ****
Raiden, despite his controversial debut (Even though that was because Kojima pulled a fast one on the entire ****ing planet), he's became a very popular character in his own right by becoming a cyborg ninja. It doesn't really get much better than that tbh
Blaze, she's one of the few of "Sonic's ****ty friends" that doesn't have any hatred towards them at all, her games also have a highly unique soundtrack which we REALLY should get more of, plus she has fire pillars, we have loads of fire attacks, but no fire pillars or using the fire to launch yourself like a rocket
Leona. We all know why I want Leona over anyone else, if you don't understand why, then you either don't know me at all, are an uncultured swine or both
Tom Nook. Destroy the kneecaps of the rich, yes yes?
Ashley, a surprisingly popular character who Nintendo is very much aware of how popular she is, I'd say the fact that Nintendo chose her to give a Monster Hunter-y design as crosspromotion should say enough, but her AT actually has a neat idea, a character who mostly relies on using status moves on enemies to fight, we have characters who can boost their own stats, but no characters who can reduce the stats of others

Terre, Zero, Chun-Li, Elma, and Blaze? Lady, you have good taste.

 

[MrElectroG64]

I dont know about yall but when i hear the name gwen i think of ben 10s sister

*cousin
:^)

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

What if the Splatoon rep was the small yellow thing which commentates matches and his moveset is using all the Arms fighters from the game's roster for specific moves?

Biff does seem to have ARMS, so they could do this, but that would be more of a slap in the face than adding Spring Man after the guessing game since no one really cares for the character.

 

[Deleted member]

- Put in Rab. I like Rab.

Now this is a good opinion.

 

[Deleted member]

Then I'd wonder where Inkling went.

That 7-Up flavour didn't sit me well at all, lmao.

 

[Lamperouge]

I dont know about yall but when i hear the name gwen i think of ben 10s sister

Gwen Stacy is the first thing that comes to mind for me.

 

[RouffWestie]

What if the Splatoon rep was the small yellow thing which commentates matches and his moveset is using all the Arms fighters from the game's roster for specific moves?

I'm going to be in the minority when I say I'd get behind this idea the most. But it has .01% chance of happening, considering how it's not faithful to the spirit of Arms. Like even though liberties are taken with characters, you can tell this wouldn't be the way they'd represent it in Smash. On the off chance that they absolutely couldn't decide on a sole representative, not a single one, nor could they find a good compromise for a multiple-fighters-in-one type character, then I could see it happening.

 

[Deleted member]

Now this is a good opinion.

What if we also got Syl/Sirvando as a fighter?

I would be 100% in for him.

I'm going to be in the minority when I say I'd get behind this idea the most. But it has .01% chance of happening, considering how it's not faithful to the spirit of Arms. Like even though liberties are taken with characters, you can tell this wouldn't be the way they'd represent it in Smash.

Yeah, I can understand that reasoning.

I personally feel positive on Min Min.

 

[Aerospherology]

Bit of a random question, but I'm curious.
Out of ALL the playable franchises currently in Smash, which one(s) would you add a new Fighter to?

: Geno or Waluigi? Yes.
: Bandana Waddle Dee
: Falinks, but that's just my bias. (also I want the non-Kanto mons to have unique victory themes for each region)
: Porky Means Business! Also a mech user and a way to get more battle themes from the EB series.
: Eggman, another mech user and a way to get his themes.
: Gruntilda Has Got The Lasting Charm! FINAL BATTLE REMIX PLEASE

 

[Deleted member]

What if we also got Syl/Sirvando as a fighter?

I would be 100% in for him.

Sylv's cool, but Rab and Serena stole the show most of my time.

 

[Deleted member]

Sylv's cool, but Rab and Serena stole the show most of my time.

Yeah, that is also true.

 

[MrElectroG64]

Ok everybody. We've all discuss WHO it will be, but never HOW it will work.

Just how will an ARMS fighter play? How will the main gimmick of extendable arms be used? Will the full extension be their smash attacks? Will we be able to use the control stick to aim the fists while they’re moving in the air? Will they be mapped to the Standard Special? Will they be their jab?

Just how the ARMS rep will work is something that I initially thought was a no-brainer, due to the fighting nature of the characters already, but upon further inspection, there actually are a LOT of different ways to interpret an ARMS fighter’s moveset.

 

[Garteam]

Everyone's out here talking about another Dragon Quest fighter, but I think the series needs an item first:

Ok cause images aren't working right now I'll spell out the joke, it's the Ogler's Digest.

 

[axel_]

I think I have even more reason to think it's Min Min now.

So, remember that glitch that happened with Bayonetta after that small buff in 7.0.0 that made her shield bigger?

discovered a glitch with bayo. if you're hit then immediately smash attack the first opportunity you have, bayonetta's outfit doesn't disappear. this lasts until you lose a stock and it looks really messy lol. ANY character can do this to bayo btw, not just the ditto. pic.twitter.com/eAU1MJfkSS

— CaptainZack (@CaptainZack_) January 29, 2020

This has happened before with Banjo and Hero with the Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter glitch that crashed the game, and most recently Byleth from a visual glitch with Simon and Richter charging their whips.

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/494706623/#494706623

Considering the similarities between these characters (Banjo and Duck Hunt both having somewhat similar features, Mii Swordfighter having multiple specials like Hero, and Byleth using a whip-like attack like the Belmonts) it's very safe to assume these characters were used as bases for development of the other characters.

So that would mean Fighter 6 would need to use Bayonetta as a base, someone with aerial kicks and plenty of range with normals and specials. And which ARMS character just so happens to use kicks to attack and deflect enemy attacks?

 

[Garteam]

I think I have even more reason to think it's Min Min now.

So, remember that glitch that happened with Bayonetta after that small buff in 7.0.0 that made her shield bigger?

discovered a glitch with bayo. if you're hit then immediately smash attack the first opportunity you have, bayonetta's outfit doesn't disappear. this lasts until you lose a stock and it looks really messy lol. ANY character can do this to bayo btw, not just the ditto. pic.twitter.com/eAU1MJfkSS

— CaptainZack (@CaptainZack_) January 29, 2020

This has happened before with Banjo and Hero with the Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter glitch that crashed the game, and most recently Byleth from a visual glitch with Simon and Richter charging their whips.

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/494706623/#494706623

Considering the similarities between these characters (Banjo and Duck Hunt both having somewhat similar features, Mii Swordfighter having multiple specials like Hero, and Byleth using a whip-like attack like the Belmonts) it's very safe to assume these characters were used as bases for development of the other characters.

So that would mean Fighter 6 would need to use Bayonetta as a base, someone with aerial kicks and plenty of range with normals and specials. And which ARMS character just so happens to use kicks to attack and deflect enemy attacks?

This theory would work, if Banjo actually used Duck Hunt as a base instead of Ridley.

Also, even if it is Min Min, her kicks are likely to play a small role in the moveset so stretchy arms can take centre stage. As such, it really wouldn't make a ton of sense for Bayonetta to be used as a base for her kicks.

 

[SneakyLink]

I think I have even more reason to think it's Min Min now.

So, remember that glitch that happened with Bayonetta after that small buff in 7.0.0 that made her shield bigger?

discovered a glitch with bayo. if you're hit then immediately smash attack the first opportunity you have, bayonetta's outfit doesn't disappear. this lasts until you lose a stock and it looks really messy lol. ANY character can do this to bayo btw, not just the ditto. pic.twitter.com/eAU1MJfkSS

— CaptainZack (@CaptainZack_) January 29, 2020

This has happened before with Banjo and Hero with the Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter glitch that crashed the game, and most recently Byleth from a visual glitch with Simon and Richter charging their whips.

https://arch.b4k.co/v/thread/494706623/#494706623

Considering the similarities between these characters (Banjo and Duck Hunt both having somewhat similar features, Mii Swordfighter having multiple specials like Hero, and Byleth using a whip-like attack like the Belmonts) it's very safe to assume these characters were used as bases for development of the other characters.

So that would mean Fighter 6 would need to use Bayonetta as a base, someone with aerial kicks and plenty of range with normals and specials. And which ARMS character just so happens to use kicks to attack and deflect enemy attacks?

Means nothing considering Banjo's base wasn't Duck Hunt but Ridley.

 

[Lamperouge]

I think I have even more reason to think it's Min Min now.

So, remember that glitch that happened with Bayonetta after that small buff in 7.0.0 that made her shield bigger?

discovered a glitch with bayo. if you're hit then immediately smash attack the first opportunity you have, bayonetta's outfit doesn't disappear. this lasts until you lose a stock and it looks really messy lol. ANY character can do this to bayo btw, not just the ditto. pic.twitter.com/eAU1MJfkSS

— CaptainZack (@CaptainZack_) January 29, 2020

This has happened before with Banjo and Hero with the Duck Hunt and Mii Swordfighter glitch that crashed the game, and most recently Byleth from a visual glitch with Simon and Richter charging their whips.

Considering the similarities between these characters (Banjo and Duck Hunt both having somewhat similar features, Mii Swordfighter having multiple specials like Hero, and Byleth using a whip-like attack like the Belmonts) it's very safe to assume these characters were used as bases for development of the other characters.

So that would mean Fighter 6 would need to use Bayonetta as a base, someone with aerial kicks and plenty of range with normals and specials. And which ARMS character just so happens to use kicks to attack and deflect enemy attacks?

Couldn't they just pull another Simon/Richter and have the ARMS fighter borrow kicks from Min Min for the sake of a complete moveset?