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Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

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SKX31

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Gee, it sure is boring around here...
Mah boi, this peace is what all Newcomer thread people strive for!

*anticipates 12/25 reveal*
(Edit: couldn't think of something that worked perfectly, but here goes anyway.)

You better watch out
You better not John
You better not SD, I'm telling you why
Santa Rodin's coming to Smash.



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I’m just speculating here until I get the game from the mail, from what I’ve seen there’s really not much to talk about. I hope the rest of the DLC is 3rd party since all Nintendo characters I care about are here. I really haven’t gotten a character I asked for in Smash yet because some of them are in a non-playable state, so I just assume it’s impossible for them to get in.
 
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I'm kinda impressed that I didn't talk a bit too much today. Must be the thread starving for information.

Sigh...good thing I have tons of good anime to watch in order to keep me in check.
 

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Confuse "wishes" and "chances" is the culture of this thread :
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I think this topic shouldn't talk about wishes, which would be off-topic. It should only talk about chances. Without all the questions like "What is your wishlist?", there appears a more normal activity on this thread. On this time, I think the current rhythm of this thread corresponds to something normal.
 
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Confuse "wishes" and "chances" is the culture of this thread :
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I think this topic shouldn't talk about wishes, which would be off-topic. It should only talk about chances. Without all the questions like "What is your wishlist?", there appears a more normal activity on this thread. On this time, I think the current rhythm of this thread corresponds to something normal.
Unfortunately, the speculation has died out. Everything that could have a chance has already been talked about. With no new leak or piece of information coming through, there's nothing to really say. That's why people eventually turn from 'speculation' to 'wishes' (and from there, the line gets blurred further).
 

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Unfortunately, the speculation has died out. Everything that could have a chance has already been talked about. With no new leak or piece of information coming through, there's nothing to really say. That's why people eventually turn from 'speculation' to 'wishes' (and from there, the line gets blurred further).
Fake rumors are killed too, and I think that's a good thing. There are still 2 days, rumors suggested Morrigan and the protagonists of Namco × Capcom. Vergeben said "no". Perhaps it would therefore be useful to multiply the fake rumors until waiting for Vergeben to say nothing about one of them :grin: ?
 

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Fake rumors are killed too, and I think that's a good thing. There are still 2 days, rumors suggested Morrigan and the protagonists of Namco × Capcom. Vergeben said "no". Perhaps it would therefore be useful to multiply the fake rumors until waiting for Vergeben to say nothing about one of them :grin: ?
Honestly, I want someone to make a REALLY convincing leak of one of the disconfirmed characters just to see if Verge updates us by saying his source was actually unsure about them the whole time.
 

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I'm kinda impressed that I didn't talk a bit too much today. Must be the thread starving for information.

Sigh...good thing I have tons of good anime to watch in order to keep me in check.
I've been catching up with my gaming backlog to pass the time. Seems its catching.
 
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I assume he's talking about Fatman placing his bets on Dovakhin after a "source" told him that F5P is a Western characters that will disconfirm a requested character (like Doom Slayer).
Do you think it has to do with its unknown existence in the east?

for doom?
 
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I assume he's talking about Fatman placing his bets on Dovakhin after a "source" told him that F5P is a Western characters that will disconfirm a requested character (like Doom Slayer).
Isn't that dude a liar or something?
 
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Kinda, this is probably him just believing a random nobody on Discord just because he said something that could confirm the Mii costume leak.
So another "leaker"... got it.

My sources say that Dante from DMC is CP5, and that the Mii costumes in the video are fake. Geno is actually a mii costume and not actually a character.
 
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Honestly, I want someone to make a REALLY convincing leak of one of the disconfirmed characters just to see if Verge updates us by saying his source was actually unsure about them the whole time.
I don't know if they're disconfirmed, but a convincing leak is being prepped as you speak.

 
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Do you think it has to do with its unknown existence in the east?

for doom?
Totally. Sakurai has stated that he's taking any chances he can get to promote Japanese games around the world with Smash Bros, that's why after 20 years we only got one western franchise added into Smash while everyone else is either a Trophy or Spirit. I doubt Sakurai is interested in promoting western games like Doom in Japan.
 

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So another "leaker"... got it.

My sources say that Dante from DMC is CP5, and that the Mii costumes in the video are fake. Geno is actually a mii costume and not actually a character.
That can't be right. My sources say we're getting KOS-MOS as the fifth Fighters Pass character, Geno as the first post-Fighters-Pass character, and while they can't say who the character after Geno is, all they could tell me is that they're not owned by Arika, Behaviour Interactive, or Gearbox Software. (I hope it's obvious that I'm joking here)
 
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So another "leaker"... got it.
That can't be right. My sources say we're getting KOS-MOS as the fifth Fighters Pass character, Geno as the first post-Fighters-Pass character, and while they can't say who the character after Geno is, all they could tell me is that they're not owned by Arika, Behaviour Interactive, or Gearbox Software. (I hope it's obvious that I'm joking here)
We need to talk to check our sources, we also got to go Sabi’s discord with Vergeben so we can find out the real info.
 

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Confuse "wishes" and "chances" is the culture of this thread :
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I think this topic shouldn't talk about wishes, which would be off-topic. It should only talk about chances. Without all the questions like "What is your wishlist?", there appears a more normal activity on this thread. On this time, I think the current rhythm of this thread corresponds to something normal.
This is the newcomer speculation and discussion thread.

Wishlists fall under discussion. Besides, don't we already do enough gatekeeping around these parts?
 
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Tell Neoxon that Verge leaked a Square Enix newcomer before Brave was datamined.
Actually, Imran & Tansut leaked a SE newcomer first prior to the datamining, not Vergeben. That’s yet another instance of piggy-backing.
 
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On average, what time in the day would the NEW sticker over characters go away in the past?
 

ProfPeanut

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But vanilla Brawl sucks. Of course conversation died down.
Brawl's fate merely highlighted a simple truth - that speculating on a Smash game delivers a completely different high from actually playing a Smash game. I'd wager plenty that ancient Melee speculation and Melee itself run on completely different fuels.

At any rate, at least Brawl itself didn't spam the internet with daily doomsday prophecies, endless Melee comparisons, and insultingly reductive "summaries" of post-Melee games-

Ultimate is still just a touch up of 4 which was a touch up of Brawl, so I don’t blame anyone for not caring about it gameplay wise.
And people wonder why we miss being on the speculation side of a Smash game's launch.
 

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Brawl was IMHO 10x better than Smash Wii U.

If you embraced Brawl for what it was supposed to be instead of complaining about what it never was meant to be, it was an incredible game that to this day is very memorable. SSE is the best thing ever and I will never back down on my thoughts about Brawl.

And people wonder why we miss being on the speculation side of a Smash game's launch.
The fact people still actually think this way boggles my mind.

How are there still "Ultimate's a port" people in 2019?
 
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Totally. Sakurai has stated that he's taking any chances he can get to promote Japanese games around the world with Smash Bros, that's why after 20 years we only got one western franchise added into Smash while everyone else is either a Trophy or Spirit. I doubt Sakurai is interested in promoting western games like Doom in Japan.
That dosent mean Japanese only games like touhou are getting in if doom a FPS that’s unknown in the east cant get in because of that
 

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Totally. Sakurai has stated that he's taking any chances he can get to promote Japanese games around the world with Smash Bros, that's why after 20 years we only got one western franchise added into Smash while everyone else is either a Trophy or Spirit. I doubt Sakurai is interested in promoting western games like Doom in Japan.
Sakurai called Doom the “father of FPS”.

If given the opportunity, I’m sure that he’d love to add Doom Slayer eventually.
 
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I can't speculate without people making jokes about how we believe everything results in a potential Super Smash reveal. No s*** it doesn't and we might seem obsessed but something will so let us have fun guessing, ffs.

Everything hasn't already been said. I'm like wtf some of us just joined. You don't need concrete announcements or bulls*** leaker responses to speculate.
 
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Isn't that dude a liar or something?
No, just the stuff he speculates on isn’t concrete, and he’s acknowledged that.

Everything he was accused of “lying” about were things like claiming something was definitely for Smash or claiming something as his own when he never did. The names and stuff he said were never lies. There was one time where he thought Sabi made the Jonesy leak as part of a bet or something, but I’m sure that was a misunderstanding; Sabi himself cleared that up in the thread.
 
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Totally. Sakurai has stated that he's taking any chances he can get to promote Japanese games around the world with Smash Bros, that's why after 20 years we only got one western franchise added into Smash while everyone else is either a Trophy or Spirit. I doubt Sakurai is interested in promoting western games like Doom in Japan.
I don't think anyone here can say, with absolute certainty, what Sakurai "wants" to do with roster additions. He spent part of the demonstration video for Banjo (a western character) promoting the Xbox One (a console that's so unpopular in Japan that, as of February of this year, it's only sold a little over a hundred thousand units in that country - by contrast, the Wii U sold 3.3 million in Japan).

He's said that he wants to promote Japanese games and developers, but that doesn't necessarily rule out any western properties getting in.
 
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BernkastelWitch

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I can imagine Sakurai trying to give primarily Western and primarily western Japanese series some love in Smash if he's willing to and if he feels like it. Meaning this whole "Doom Slayer/Reimu can't be in Smash because they're only well known in one region!" is a bit moot because hypothetically, there's a possibility both can be in Smash.

Sakurai seems to be giving love to all sorts of franchises if he deemed they warranted being in Smash anyways.
 

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That dosent mean Japanese only games like touhou are getting in if doom a FPS that’s unknown in the east cant get in because of that
Well we already saw Dragon Quest, a series that mostly only popular in Japan, got in while series that are barely recognized in Japan (like Rayman) were Trophies and Spirits.
Looking at all the characters that are in Smash Bros they're either attach to a Japanese franchise or are recognized in Japan like Banjo was. I mean, we even got Fire Emblem added when barely anyone knew about it in America and we have a Japanese exclusive character added to the roster with Lucas. I wouldn't be surprise if someone from Touhou gets in as playable character while Doomguy gets in as a Mii Costume or Spirit.
 
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