Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Will]

Well yeah, but I still think they'd probably use the XB2 design since it's both the most recent and most E+10 friendly, and you can't put the black void of nothingness there since, she doesn't have a dress.

Yeah, I agree with you.

I'm still on the "who cares we don't know" team but I'm not that devoted against KOS-MOS that I think her design alone is not good enough for good boys and girls. I'm not to that absurd level of arguing yet

 

[super88cloud]

In case you're all bloody curious on KOS-MOS, try and read her wiki page:

https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/KOS-MOS

read parts of it. I´m still holding on my No,thanks opinion.

 

[Shroob]

Yeah, I agree with you.

I'm still on the "who cares we don't know" team but I'm not that devoted against KOS-MOS that I think she's not good enough for good boys and girls.
I'm not to that absurd level of arguing yet

I'm on the "I have no ****ing idea what's going on. KOS MOS is neat but I'm not even convinced she's the one" train.


I'll discuss her, but, I ain't thinking she's the one til one of these sad sacks stake their cred on it, and even that won't be good enough since I trust 'em about as far as I can throw 'em.



And I got T-rex arms so that ain't far.

 

[Will]

I'm on the "I have no ****ing idea what's going on. KOS MOS is neat but I'm not even convinced she's the one" train.


I'll discuss her, but, I ain't thinking she's the one til one of these sad sacks stake their cred on it, and even that won't be good enough since I trust 'em about as far as I can throw 'em.



And I got T-rex arms so that ain't far.

Eh, I wouldn't worry about it. Porky time will come soon enough.

 

[Shroob]

The only reason I'm inclined moreso to think KOS MOS has a better chance than normal is because of a reason that's not a very good reason in the first place.


The Mii costumes.


We're still missing a handful, and a good amount of those are the Namco ones, which I just don't see them scrapping.


Joker brought most of the SEGA ones, Hero got some new Square ones, Banjo didn't get any Microsoft ones but we got some returning Capcom, a new Konami and some Nintedo ones, and Terry brought some SNK with the Akira and Jacky ones returning.



Mii costumes returning, at the end of the day mean absolutely nothing since they can pretty much come with anything as Banjo is shown, so for all we know, Fighter 5 may not have any Mii costumes and they just dump a bunch of old ones with them.


But the Heihachi Mii not retuning with Terry when they brought attention that these were a selection of Fighting Game costumes is a bit sus, as minor as it is.

 

[Will]

But the Heihachi Mii not retuning with Terry when they brought attention that these were a selection of Fighting Game costumes is a bit sus, as minor as it is.

Maybe he just didn't want to bring Heihachi's mii costume back? I don't know, it is sus, but not sus enough. Mii costume absences have come and gone before and it led to nothing, not all of them are a conspiracy.

 

[Sabrewulf238]

I wouldn't mind KOS-MOS despite not knowing a lot about her. I mean she seems more interesting than Hero or Terry at least.

However I'd definitely prefer to see 2B if I had to choose between them.

 

[Will]

KOS-MOS as the second Namco rep is pretty confusing IMO. You have all these characters and the second rep. Heihachi, Lloyd, Yuri, Dig Dug, The Chosen Undead. You choose the dormant game character KOS-MOS?

Sakurai must be a picky man if she's in.

 

[Shroob]

Maybe he just didn't want to bring Heihachi's mii costume back? I don't know, it is sus, but not sus enough. Mii costume absences have come and gone before and it led to nothing, not all of them are a conspiracy.

I definitely agree, but you'd think by now at least 1 Namco one would have came back. Heihachi missing from the Fighter 'group' if you can call it is kinda sus, and Sabi, as much as I don't like them, is specifically saying "No Lloyd", meaning he'd 'probably' still have his costume?


****'s weird. It really doesn't mean anything, but the lack of Namco costumes has always been confusing, and only got stranger with Terry's release.

Banjo killed the Mii Costume theory when he brought the Capcom ones, but it feels odd that an entire company could potentially have had all theirs scrapped is all.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

KOS-MOS does fill an important spot by not only being a second Bandai Namco rep, but also serves also a second Monolithsoft Rep who is one of Nintendo's most important and biggest first party studios.

 

[Will]

I definitely agree, but you'd think by now at least 1 Namco one would have came back. Heihachi missing from the Fighter 'group' if you can call it is kinda sus, and Sabi, as much as I don't like them, is specifically saying "No Lloyd", meaning he'd 'probably' still have his costume?


****'s weird. It really doesn't mean anything, but the lack of Namco costumes has always been confusing, and only got strangest with Terry's release.

Banjo killed the Mii Costume theory when he brought the Capcom ones, but it feels odd that an entire company could potentially have had all theirs scrapped is all.

I mean, KOS-MOS would make sense. The Xenosaga trilogy is, critically speaking, a ****ing masterpiece. My only question comes up as "You choose someone who's last game was 13 years ago instead of my man Heihachi?". Even Bayonetta had a new game hot off the presses when she was revealed, her as SEGA's #2 does not surprise me in the slightest.

KOS-MOS does fill an important spot by not only being a second Bandai Namco rep, but also serves also a second Monolithsoft Rep who is one of Nintendo's most important and biggest first party studios.

There are "spots"?

 

[Animegamingnerd]

KOS-MOS as the second Namco rep is pretty confusing IMO. You have all these characters and the second rep. Heihachi, Lloyd, Yuri, Dig Dug, The Chosen Undead. You choose the dormant game character KOS-MOS?

Sakurai must be a picky man if she's in.

As I said in my previous post, I think if its KOS-MOS it has a lot do to with Nintendo owning Monolithsoft now and despite how important they are to Nintendo, despite the fact they only have 1 character they created in Smash.

 

[Will]

As I said in my previous post, I think if its KOS-MOS it has a lot do to with Nintendo owning Monolithsoft now and despite how important they are to Nintendo, they only have 1 character they created in Smash.

If anything, Sakurai is choosing franchises, companies, and teams that haven't been touched yet. It doesn't seem to correlate with any existing pattern, so I doubt that would be the reason KOS-MOS is in Smash.

To Sakruai it's probably more like this

 

[Shroob]

As someone who knows jack about the series

Does the other -Mos play like Kos?


Like, would she be an alt costume or an Echo?



Afaik, we're not getting Echoes, but personality-wise and everything, this character seems vastly different aside from being the same character just a different skin color.

 

[Will]

At the end of the day Sakurai chooses what goes in his game. If he puts in KOS-MOS, I ain't stressin. I just think KOS-MOS stans are jumping the gun way too hard and are being a little too much on the "support her or perish" type beat. Agree to disagree if you must.

As someone who knows jack about the series

Does the other -Mos play like Kos?

Nah, she's chill.

I just expect desperate Xenoblade fans to try and make Fiora an Echo of her.

 

[Calamitas]

Btw, I know this is a bit early to ask this - both in the week and time of day - but since I definitely won't stay awake for the VGA. Can someone PM a direct link to whatever newcomer trailer once that's up? I wanna have that trailer be the first thing I see of whoever FP5 is, and not read about it somewhere unrelated.

 

[Shroob]

Btw, I know this is a bit early to ask this - both in the week and time of day - but since I definitely won't stay awake for the VGA. Can someone PM a direct link to whatever newcomer trailer once that's up? I wanna have that trailer be the first thing I see of whoever FP5 is, and not read about it somewhere unrelated.

You're way too early. You gotta ask on Thursday so people will remember, we still got a whole 2 and a half-3 days to go.

 

[Deleted member]

Just for inquiry...when is the definite Game Awards schedule in my country so I can watch? If it's Thursday, good for me, if it's Friday, well, I have the entire day to myself.

 

[Will]

Regardless of what people say it is, gonna be funny to see people react to the lack of any cheering from the audience about whoever trailer is next and take it as some personal offense against them and Sakurai. I mean, people didn't bat an eye at Joker but this time people are expecting Smash instead of that total surprise drop no one anticipated, so it makes sense.

If there's a twitch chat too of some kind, I bet half of the **** is just going to be "ResidentSleeper boring where's Smash" for 3 hours

 

[Shroob]

Just for inquiry...when is the definite Game Awards schedule in my country so I can watch? If it's Thursday, good for me, if it's Friday, well, I have the entire day to myself.

well it's 2:13 AM December 10th for me right now.


The game awards airs in like, 60+ hours from now for me.

 

[Deleted member]

If there's a twitch chat too of some kind, I bet half of the **** is just going to be "ResidentSleeper boring where's Smash" for 3 hours

Oh dear...Twitch chat.

If I were to be watching this live...I'd be like when's Darkstalkers , but in all seriousness it won't happen XD

 

[Will]

Oh dear...Twitch chat.

If I were to be watching this live...I'd be like when's Darkstalkers , but in all seriousness it won't happen XD

If Smash is one of the first things revealed, expect the viewer count to drop by the thousands all of a sudden.

 

[Calamitas]

You're way too early. You gotta ask on Thursday so people will remember, we still got a whole 2 and a half-3 days to go.

Yeah, I guess. I'll just quote this post again when the time draws nearer.

Just for inquiry...when is the definite Game Awards schedule in my country so I can watch? If it's Thursday, good for me, if it's Friday, well, I have the entire day to myself.

Considering that you're even ahead of me in terms of timezone. . . should be early in the morning of Friday for you.

Edit:
Just looked it up, it should be 9:30 AM on Friday for you.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Just for inquiry...when is the definite Game Awards schedule in my country so I can watch? If it's Thursday, good for me, if it's Friday, well, I have the entire day to myself.

It's 11:20 AM in most of Europe, and TGA is on Friday at like 3AM

 

[Shroob]

And then instead of a character, it's the announcement of an announcement of a date for a special Smash presentation, keeping us in this hell for that much longer.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

So did I miss anything nutty in the last 10 hours or is this the calm before the storm?

 

[Barrubo]

So then how many of us agree that Kos-mos isn't coming for FP5. Yey or ney.

 

[Shroob]

So did I miss anything nutty in the last 10 hours or is this the calm before the storm?

Unless you were here when Verg got all confused and started rationalizing how KOS MOS could be it despite him hearing No Bamco but a "Dunno" for her, no, not really.

Apparently the TGA leak is dead, but Sabi's silent and Verg's all ****ed up about KOS MOS.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

And then instead of a character, it's the announcement of an announcement of a date for a special Smash presentation, keeping us in this hell for that much longer.

Ok now that's outright desirable cause it means a certain someone needs to keep a Yodasumi avi on Discord

 

[Will]

So then how many of us agree that Kos-mos isn't coming for FP5. Yey or ney.

Don't know. Literally impossible to know

 

[Shroob]

So then how many of us agree that Kos-mos isn't coming for FP5. Yey or ney.

Team: There's zero credible evidence pointing either way right now.

Could happen, could not. We dunno.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

The circumstantial evidence points to KOS-MOS but this is the Smash community, we've made giants out of windmills before.

 

[Deleted member]

So then how many of us agree that Kos-mos isn't coming for FP5. Yey or ney.

We're in team "we don't ****ing know"

 

[Will]

The circumstantial evidence points to KOS-MOS

If there was circumstantial evidence we'd all agree then.

 

[Jedisupersonic]

KOS-MOS as the second Namco rep is pretty confusing IMO. You have all these characters and the second rep. Heihachi, Lloyd, Yuri, Dig Dug, The Chosen Undead. You choose the dormant game character KOS-MOS?

Sakurai must be a picky man if she's in.

Well Kos-Mos is kind of infamous for being Namco's general go to for Crossovers especially in the Xeno crowd who wish other characters would get that spotlight.

 

[RawkHawk2010]

KOS-MOS as the second Namco rep is pretty confusing IMO. You have all these characters and the second rep. Heihachi, Lloyd, Yuri, Dig Dug, The Chosen Undead. You choose the dormant game character KOS-MOS?

Sakurai must be a picky man if she's in.

KOS-MOS is notably the queen of Namco crossover appearances. Not sure what's hard to understand about why that's appropriate in a Nintendo/Namco collaboration.

KOS-MOS does fill an important spot by not only being a second Bandai Namco rep, but also serves also a second Monolithsoft Rep who is one of Nintendo's most important and biggest first party studios.

This is true. She's the LITERAL Monolith Soft postergirl, despite them not owning her.

 

[osby]

So then how many of us agree that Kos-mos isn't coming for FP5. Yey or ney.

Considering how this thread's "frontrunners" tend to go, I say ney.

I'm not saying this based on any proof, it's just we are ridiculously bad at actually predicting characters without any leaks.

 

[Will]

Not sure what's hard to understand about why that's appropriate in a Nintendo/Namco collaboration.

For a Nintendo/Namco collaboration, there sure is a lack of Namco pushing their own characters. What, do you think Namco put Sakurai at gunpoint demanding a Namco character?

 

[Shroob]

The circumstantial evidence points to KOS-MOS but this is the Smash community, we've made giants out of windmills before.

I mean, is there really 'any' evidence?


The leak that gave her credibility is apparently dead, and all we have left are:


Sabi literally not saying **** for the first time in her life


Verg literally confused in all hell how her trademark works


And Jon Gamexplain saying he wants her to be shown off......... right after he went on a rant on Twitter about how he's not a leaker 100%, so it'd be weird as hell for him to start leaking **** after he went on a rant saying he's not(Even though he is).



There really isn't any circumstantial evidence other than Verg suddenly getting confused about her copyright.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

KOS-MOS as the second Namco rep is pretty confusing IMO. You have all these characters and the second rep. Heihachi, Lloyd, Yuri, Dig Dug, The Chosen Undead. You choose the dormant game character KOS-MOS?

Sakurai must be a picky man if she's in.

Well it's not like there isn't precedent for choosing characters from dead series.