Newbie Mafia 12 FMP Fumoffu!: Game over!

[X1-12]

Seik the idea is you play well enough that by the end you've convinced people such that your top lynch choice becomes their top lynch choice

 

[ranmaru]

*shrugs* It's clear Kuz wanted the X1 lynch and wasn't deviating. I wasn't going to get his support for an AA lynch, and he's clearly one of the more influential players this game.

There are several players. They do not all agree on who should be lynched each day. There can only be one person lynched each day. Therefore not everyone will get their top lynch choice each Day.

:/.

Yes but you originally said "you" and not "everyone".

See, it is possible to get your top scumpick lynched. You just have to push for it. Push push push. That is my advice to you.

Go back, re-read AA's posts. Make a case(That is right and not bull****). Vote him. And see if others will vote with you.

Ask AA questions, pressure him, get info. Blah blah blah. Make sure your personal investigations line up with your vote.

Pressure others to vote with you.

ABOVE ALL, BE CONFIDENT.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Good.

Your char claim doesn't appear to be a main character and VT doesn't pull at my heart strings.

Going to tennis practice, will respond to those three points when I come back.

 

[Seikend]

@X1

You can't deny that Kuz is an influential and strong player. I didn't have his support, the AA wagon had come and gone and discussion was focused on you and Kuz. The AA lynch didn't feel viable at all.

 

[X1-12]

Seik you are actually meant to try though, not just suck, lol.

 

[ranmaru]

@X1

You can't deny that Kuz is an influential and strong player. I didn't have his support, the AA wagon had come and gone and discussion was focused on you and Kuz. The AA lynch didn't feel viable at all.

In the bold. Here is where you should try to shift discussion onto someone else. Don't let it focus on one person, try to spread it out to 2-3 people.

 

[X1-12]

i.e you will always suck if you just let someone else take control just because they're more influential. That's like saying "I'll never beat Mango at melee so there's no point even trying to play the game"

 

[Seikend]

'kay, I need to re-evaluate how I'm playing this game then.

I will change.

 

[ranmaru]

Start with pushing your second scumspect broski. Make the effort.

 

[Seikend]

'kay, so AA.

D1 play has been discussed. Nothing substantial from him except the contradiction of his.

D2.

When he was asked by Kuz who should be the lynch, himself or Ran he says:

@ kuz: If I were impartial I'd probably lynch me first, I don't think Ran is scum.

:/. It doesn't matter what he thinks of Ran, TownAA would always be more sure that he is town than Ran. Why does he suggest himself?


For D2 he remains scum-pickless.

He finds Soren "sorta suspicious", a dumb post about why I'm scummy, a "town-lean" on X1 and that's it.

He isn't scum for what he's done, but scum for what he hasn't done.

Hasn't commited to any stances.

Hasn't commented on recent events.

Hasn't done... anything toDay.

He's certainly made posts in an attempt to contribute, but what have those posts done? How much content is there really?

Fluff all Day.


In terms of leads, I'm not too sure.

The above quoted post concerning Ran should mean something, but it could go either way. AA could either know Ran is town, or Ran is a scum PR he's protecting. Thoughts?

His failure to contribute to X1/Kuz makes me believe that if AA is scum, then there is scum in Kuz and X1. He doesn't comment on Kuz, but for X1 he makes a passing comment about him being town. So moreso X1 than Kuz.

unvote
vote:asianaussie

 

[ranmaru]

Make sure you ask AA questions. Ask him to clarify on things he has said earlier.

Expect AA to react, but that is good. I'll give thoughts soon (Gotta eat now)

Ask X1's thoughts on an AA lynch as well.

 

[Seikend]

I know the case is lacking currently. I was being kicked off the family computer and the ipod is being repaired. On the DS currently.

I would have expanded on his fluffing but its evident if you check yourself.

Will post more tommorow. posting on the ds is a *****./

 

[th3kuzinator]

Is this the part where I say I like his independent thinking/initiative but I still want X1 lynched?

Yeah, think so.

@Fynal: I see you viewing. What are your stances on X1, AA and Seikend?

 

[th3kuzinator]

However, agreed that him not taking a side or at least commenting on the exchange between X1 and myself is strange, considering I've seen him viewing a few times.

He can die toMorrow.

 

[Fynal]

gtg dinner. post almost done. will post when i get back

 

[th3kuzinator]

Yup, its scummy. Not because I think Ran is scum, but because the way he did it was scummy. If a town player thought Ran was town, he'd just push away from Ran, attacking the scumpicks instead. Kuz didn't do that, he made a big charade of specifically defending Ran, making sure everyone saw him do it.

Who says the only way to announce when you have a change in reads is to do is subtly? As town, and when I have nothing to gain from keeping it quiet, I am always very open and loud about my stances. Here is no different. Pushing another play quietly would have not had the same affect on other player's perception of Ranmaru than if I announced my stances boldly. Since many players had him as their number one scum pick, I knew I had to be aggressive about it.

Also if he could truly read Ran from meta he'd know it from the start of the game, the "Ran-town-tells" he describes have been exhibited form the start of D1. The fact he is so confident in his Ran read when Ran's been incredibly scummy (he always is) makes me think that kuz has outside information that Ran is town (i.e Ran isn't on kuz's scumteam, ergo is town)

I had never done a full read of the game before my change of heart. The only time I had really even gone back much was during my Sword ISO. I re-read the morning I had the realization and upon a full re-read not focused on a specific area, I realized many of the posts Ranmaru was being taken scummy for were either just plain old anti-town Ran or you putting a negative spin on them.

RE the second part: I explained in my 1202 why I have my town read on Ranmaru. You can draw all the premature conclusions you want about why I think this, but they aren't true.

Kuz says "oh yeah as scum why would I distract from an easy mislynch, makes no sense". I've basically touched on this and I already called him out for it. Firstly its stupid WIFOM.

Yeah its WIFOM and yeah its a null indicator. It cant be done as town and as scum. I didn't expect to convince anyone with it.

@Kuz: You said in #1201 that you were gonna wait until you found out who my scumbuddies are, yet 2 and half hours later in #1202 you already have a convincing case that AA is scumbuddy? So you already are pretty sure me and AA were scumbuddies, but you chose to completely ignore me, and only attack AA? What did that gain? Why did you never attack me before I attacked you? You were sitting there thinking me and AA were scum together, but that it'd be a good idea not to ever mention me as a scumread until I attacked you, only attacking AA in a hope that'd reveal the last member of out scumteam?

I gained a scumX1 scrambling to divert the wagon away from AA before he was lynched. I never attacked you before him because I wanted to give you the illusion I thought you were town so you would give me untainted reads. Too bad you were inactive and didn't end up giving me that much to work with before AA got close to being lynched.

 

[Fynal]

vote: X1-12

L-2 again i believe. ran you got the hammer if you want it. I'm up for a little more time for toDay

@Fynal: Obviously I have been defending myself, but if you pay attention I've been attacking kuz the whole way through my increased posting streak. I have been scumhunting. The AA flip-flopping doesn't exist, every time I've attacked him there's been scummier people to deal with. Same with Seik, I've just become more confident in kuzscum.

Fynal explain your SoupTown read. Also explain what you will think of kuz upon my town flip.

I don't like X1's play. At all. He posts a big post about how siek is scum and kuz with him, so we should lynch siek now and kuz later, then as soon as kuz starts full-out attacking him he switches to kuz-is-scum-100%. And stops giving a **** about the scumSiek he saw before. Then theres just a bunch of random BS I've been seeing since the start, like using RVS stuff as part of an accusation, etc.

the aa flipflopping doesnt exist?

kuz basically explained it here. You claim to have started the wagon on him (imo starting a wagon implies you think he's scum) but the instant he's at L-2 you say you arn't sure about him... but owait! siek and kuz are scum! i'm pretty sure this is flip-flopping.


@X1: i don't have a town read on soup. i said he was feeling townier. this is because of his more recent posts, which strike me as townier than his previous posts. My read on soup is null.

@kuz:
>Siek leaning scummish. need to read more on him.
>AA scum. strange lack of posting is bothering me. If X1 flips scum, which i find very likely, AA should die asap.
>(i know you didn't ask) JTB looking scummishly opportunistic. here, immediately after X1's initial siek/kuz suspicion post, he looks like he finds kuz scummy. Then, after one small question post, he posts this, without saying anything about why he voted. Looks like he's decided kuz is town, but doesn't say anything about that either. Not liking it.

 

[Fynal]

derp

unvote;
vote: X1-12

 

[Fynal]

dat 1337 reply
didn't even plan that...

 

[th3kuzinator]

Liking what I see from Fynal.

wrt JTB: It bothered me too. I'll see how I feel after X1 and AA have been dealt with.

@Everyone: I know we have plenty of time before the deadline, but we should considering getting the hammer out in the coming days. UTD has been inactive for a long time, and I think its at the point where the mod can force replace or modkill him. Since he has already been replaced once, I actually think it would be the latter. We don't want that modkill possibly ending the Day for us before we can get our lynch off.

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Seikend, AA and X1: What is your read on JTB?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@JTB: What're your thoughts on AA? Also, which inactive is scummier?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Seikend: I'm curious. Why did you think X1 vs. myself could be TvT? Do you still believe that could be the case or do you now believe one of us is scum?

 

[X1-12]

fynal, dont know why you are attacking me for finding kuz scummier when he attacked me, did you not notice that like 1 post after i attack kuz, kuz.

The attack on me for coming in when the aa lynch was close to happening is dumb too, i started posting more during the holidays, so what? Even then saying im distracting from the aa lynch isnt even scummy unless he flips scum

 

[X1-12]

kuz, the end of 1336. You dont answer the question at all. IF YOU ALREADY THOUGHT I WAS SCUM WITH AA, WHY DID YOU LIE TO GET UNTAINTED READS? you already 'knew' that me and AA where scum, how is lying about your scumpicks justified when you are just trying to luck out and find the third scum somehow from connections of players who havent flipped

also 'town can WIFOM too' is BS, you used WIFOM to specifically state that you are town. No town needs to do this

 

[asianaussie]

Been viewing a few times, yes, but only to keep up as I have better things to do irl (not enough to declare V/LA, hence the occasional view), and I'm reading up on touhou mafia since I'm supposed to replace in.

:/. It doesn't matter what he thinks of Ran, TownAA would always be more sure that he is town than Ran. Why does he suggest himself?

AA could either know Ran is town, or Ran is a scum PR he's protecting. Thoughts?

I've been sure Ran was town from the very, very beginning. I admitted I slipped up with my definition of the word 'scumpick', which I still regret. There is more to go on for me than for Ran, that's my objective analysis. I maintain Ran is town.

For D2 he remains scum-pickless.

He finds Soren "sorta suspicious", a dumb post about why I'm scummy, a "town-lean" on X1 and that's it.

He isn't scum for what he's done, but scum for what he hasn't done.

UTDZac, Soren and TBS would all like a word. JTB as well (sorta). Actually, they wouldn't, since they haven't done anything significant. Poor point. The only people who are talking are the ICs, then Soup and Ran and you, a little. Very few people are doing anything this day.

He's certainly made posts in an attempt to contribute, but what have those posts done? How much content is there really?

Fluff all Day.

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vote:asianaussie

Yep, vote for me based on...what, inactivity? Fluff? Find a contradiction, then we'll talk.

Hasn't commited to any stances.

Hasn't commented on recent events.

Hasn't done... anything toDay.

Been busy. I'll comment in-depth when I have the time, but half of kuz's push is meta-related and he's simply sitting behind his 'lol you're scum' shield. He seems to put up this defence after every lengthy post, which didn't work out for Sworddancer, and isn't convincing me now. I don't find his case strong, and kuz is merely assuming it's convincing, deflecting X1's defence and calling 'scum scum scum scum scum'. The major point that I'll give him is that he has meta from a previous game to consider, which is fine, but I don't think meta reflects alignment sufficiently.

All kuz is doing is reading and analysing actions, calling them scummy/non-scummy depending on which suits him best, and then placing it in a logically unassailable position. A lot of what he says is correct, like X1's 'contradictions' being reaching, etc, but this is not enough for me to believe his case. On the other hand, X1 has points that kuz misinterprets. For example:

Seik totally avoids mentioning kuz during D1 despite him being one of the most active players - Its common for noobscum to do that. They try to not be connected with their partner in case it incriminates them, but end up over compensating. I've done this and lost scum the game in Bioware and Soul Calibur, BSL did it terribly in Allstars but somehow got away with it. Its like classic noobscum and incredibly damning for kuz should Seik flip scum

You're kidding me right? Since when did Seik avoid me D1? We spoke plenty during that Day and its cool and all that you bring up incorrect information to damn me but stuff like this does not help. Off the top of my head I remember talking to Seikend about how what Fynal did was just a nub tell and I remember specifically trying to convince him to join Sword's wagon.

Seik did not say anything about kuz as a player other than that he was probably town - and only inconsequentially, a response in order to defend himself from JTB. This is a fair point from X1, and receiving advice from kuz almost doesn't count, given it is a newbie game. Kuz is sidestepping the big issues and simply finding avenues of attack.

As for him forgetting about me, he wasn't particularly engrossed (he was the first voter, that's all), so forgetting about me would have been easy, given that I didn't post much after my defence against Gova.

I'm defending X1 because I genuinely believe that kuz, Seikend or both are scum now. Kuz might have done a lot of scumhunting, but there are plenty of reasons he's done that. This is a newbie game and he can play up the IC card just by his actions alone. Seikend responded regarding me because I'm his top scumpick. He should have had more on me than just that to call me scum. He bloody defended me in the D1 confusion, so he must really be pushing for me to go.

Vote: Seikend

@ Seikend, X1: is kuz scummier than soren, ignoring inactivity? Thoughts on my thoughts please.

 

[asianaussie]

@ kuz, JTB is 99% town.

Nothing he did in D1 suggests anything to the contrary, I'll address any posts you care to bring up, because I remember thinking about a couple as I read D1 again a week back.

 

[Seikend]

@Seikend, AA and X1: What is your read on JTB?

Pretty much null.

@Seikend: I'm curious. Why did you think X1 vs. myself could be TvT? Do you still believe that could be the case or do you now believe one of us is scum?

Unless I have a solid reason for considering an exchange as TvT, SvS etc. (Confirmed town or scum, or strong gut that it isn't a bandwagon etc.) I'd rather analyse the people individually rather than as a pair.

I think X1 might be scum, not because of the exchange being TvS or anything, but because of his play. His alignment either way would not heavily impact my town read on you.



Will respond to AA in a sec.

 

[Seikend]

UTDZac, Soren and TBS would all like a word. JTB as well (sorta). Actually, they wouldn't, since they haven't done anything significant. Poor point. The only people who are talking are the ICs, then Soup and Ran and you, a little. Very few people are doing anything this day.

UTDZac hasn't posted at all.
Soren has posted but has practically admitted he's clueless.
TBS and JTB's posts are few and far between.
You, on the other hand have posted paragraphs fairly frequently with minimal content.

I agree, very few people are doing anything. But most people aren't pretending to do anything. You have posted fluff allllll daiiii.

Yep, vote for me based on...what, inactivity? Fluff? Find a contradiction, then we'll talk.

Implying contradictions are the only scumtell.

Activity is relevant. Town shouldn't be afraid to post, scum should. Fluff is an attempt to contribute whilst avoiding town's goal: to scumhunt.

Do you believe you've been fluffing?
Do you believe you are scumhunting?

Stuff about Kuz, stuff about me being scum, if Kuz is scum. Irrelevant currently.

I'm defending X1 because I genuinely believe that kuz, Seikend or both are scum now. Kuz might have done a lot of scumhunting, but there are plenty of reasons he's done that. This is a newbie game and he can play up the IC card just by his actions alone. Seikend responded regarding me because I'm his top scumpick. He should have had more on me than just that to call me scum. He bloody defended me in the D1 confusion, so he must really be pushing for me to go.

I defended you in D1 initially yes. But I dicussed it with Gova and I understood what he was getting at. I didn't see the contradiction initially.

Also irrelevant anyway. Your D2 play has been the issue, not D1.

@ Seikend, X1: is kuz scummier than soren, ignoring inactivity? Thoughts on my thoughts please.

No. What did you hope to get out of this question?

 

[Fynal]

fynal, dont know why you are attacking me for finding kuz scummier when he attacked me, did you not notice that like 1 post after i attack kuz, kuz.

The attack on me for coming in when the aa lynch was close to happening is dumb too, i started posting more during the holidays, so what? Even then saying im distracting from the aa lynch isnt even scummy unless he flips scum

@1st: ???? not understanding what you said. i'm attacking you for blocking out your scumread on siek, who you initially stated should die toDay, in favor of attacking kuz. While kuz was attacking you.

@2nd: yes it is scummy. because you claimed to have started the aa wagon, and you said before the kuz.vs.X1 that aa was yer only solid scumread, and then when it looked like aa might die, you had a big accusation going and aa wasn't a strong scumpick anymore and you didn't say why.

thoughts on aa/siek after school.

 

[th3kuzinator]

I'm defending X1 because I genuinely believe that kuz, Seikend or both are scum now. Kuz might have done a lot of scumhunting, but there are plenty of reasons he's done that. This is a newbie game and he can play up the IC card just by his actions alone. Seikend responded regarding me because I'm his top scumpick. He should have had more on me than just that to call me scum. He bloody defended me in the D1 confusion, so he must really be pushing for me to go.

Hmmm Kuz is scum hunting but there must be reasons for him doing, obviously anti-town reasons. Show me where I have been playing up the IC card, cuz I havn't and thats bull****. People's stances can change, like mine did wrt to Ranmaru.

AA's responses were pri' scummy actually. IDK how I'd feel about him going toDay even, its possible.

 

[th3kuzinator]

kuz, the end of 1336. You dont answer the question at all. IF YOU ALREADY THOUGHT I WAS SCUM WITH AA, WHY DID YOU LIE TO GET UNTAINTED READS? you already 'knew' that me and AA where scum, how is lying about your scumpicks justified when you are just trying to luck out and find the third scum somehow from connections of players who havent flipped

also 'town can WIFOM too' is BS, you used WIFOM to specifically state that you are town. No town needs to do this

Oh please. Cut the word games.

Your whole bolded paragraph is just capatalizing on the word "knew." I obviously didn't know 100% that you two were scummates but I had strong suspicions which were only re-enforced by your actions.

And you give different reactions to someone who views you as town, no? I wanted to see what you say if you thought I would take your words with some weight.

Your WIFOM point is valid and it honestly was just something I posted because I was a little angry with Ranmaru. Play it up as much as you want, probably the strongest thing about your entire case.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Been busy. I'll comment in-depth when I have the time, but half of kuz's push is meta-related and he's simply sitting behind his 'lol you're scum' shield. He seems to put up this defence after every lengthy post, which didn't work out for Sworddancer, and isn't convincing me now. I don't find his case strong, and kuz is merely assuming it's convincing, deflecting X1's defence and calling 'scum scum scum scum scum'. The major point that I'll give him is that he has meta from a previous game to consider, which is fine, but I don't think meta reflects alignment sufficiently.

All kuz is doing is reading and analysing actions, calling them scummy/non-scummy depending on which suits him best, and then placing it in a logically unassailable position. A lot of what he says is correct, like X1's 'contradictions' being reaching, etc, but this is not enough for me to believe his case. On the other hand, X1 has points that kuz misinterprets. For example:

Orly? Half of my case is meta? Did you even read my 1202? Probably not because very little of it revolves around meta. After the post you even said "I think I trust Kuz's read a bit more," and now suddenly you are flip flopping both your stances (X1 and myself). If you HAD read the exchange you would have realized X1 is going for the scummy avenues of attack while I am refuting him, calling him out for the many contradictions. Meta should not be the major point of anything, and its certainly not the major point of my argument.

Bull**** @ second paragraph. I am analyzing actions and calling them how I see it. Show me where I specifically called actions to benefit myself when they should have been interpreted in the opposite fashion. If you realize that I have valid points about him reaching and contradicting himself I don't see how you can turn around and say my case is half-based on meta? You're contradicting yourself within your own post.

As for Seik-Kuz connections D1 or lack of them, did you even fact check that? Just because an example of me helping him was one of the things that came to mind, does not mean there weren't other interactions that I don't even remember. I am seriously asking if you even bothered to check that, because I know X1 didn't before posting.

As for him forgetting about me, he wasn't particularly engrossed (he was the first voter, that's all), so forgetting about me would have been easy, given that I didn't post much after my defence against Gova.

You'd think if someone started your wagon and was adamant about your lynch enough to vote you, he wouldn't just completly forget about mentioning you in a list of scumspects a few pages later, yeah? I was particularly engrossed for a bit, but then he switched.



WRT to your ran thing: Its bull****. You should know you're town, so saying you should go first before Ranmaru because you suspect he is town is anti-town.



Also, you make this large *** post lightly responding to Seikend points, then talk up to such a great extent of how I am scummier than X1 and Soren and bring up examples why I am scum and what I have been doing to X1 is scummy and then...you vote Seikend. If you bothered to show me which side of the fence you were sitting on wrt X1 vs Kuz why didn't you vote for one of us, considering this is the main point for discussion at this time. Seems like you just wanted to take a side while lightly pushing Seikend, someone who would come at you much softer than X1 or myself, while you let us fight it out. I call bull****.

That AA lynch looks so tempting now...

 

[th3kuzinator]

@Fynal: Since you pretty much agreed with me that X1 toDay and AA toMorrow how would you feel about going in the reverse order? I am not condoning that just yet because I want to look into something first, but would be okay with that concept?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@ kuz, JTB is 99% town.

Nothing he did in D1 suggests anything to the contrary, I'll address any posts you care to bring up, because I remember thinking about a couple as I read D1 again a week back.

Talk about this blatant opportunism.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12592429&postcount=1198

then I post my stuff

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12594644&postcount=1221

I also want you to talk about what caused your change of heart from here to here?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@X1: Is AA still scum? Or have you flip flopped on that since he supported you? Your read on JTB as well.

 

[X1-12]

kuz all my reads are explained in #1269. AA is still scum just not as scummy as you. JTB I have a null read on

@1st: ???? not understanding what you said. i'm attacking you for blocking out your scumread on siek, who you initially stated should die toDay, in favor of attacking kuz. While kuz was attacking you.

@2nd: yes it is scummy. because you claimed to have started the aa wagon, and you said before the kuz.vs.X1 that aa was yer only solid scumread, and then when it looked like aa might die, you had a big accusation going and aa wasn't a strong scumpick anymore and you didn't say why.

thoughts on aa/siek after school.

First one is meant to say first why do you attack me for attacking kuz who is attacking me? If you believe it is scummy then why attack me for doing it but not kuz, when kuz suddenly made a massive post saying I'm scum, 1 or two posts after him. Secondly if someone attacks me in a scummy way, I'll find them scummy.

Second: AA always was a scumpick. He still is, its only that kuz massively overtook him in how scummy he was, making kuz my top target. AA didn't become not scummy, but kuz became scummier so I focused there


@Kuz:

our whole bolded paragraph is just capatalizing on the word "knew." I obviously didn't know 100% that you two were scummates but I had strong suspicions which were only re-enforced by your actions.

This is 100% not true. Here I will change the word "knew" to "thought" and the point still stands. This is the third time at least I've asked you this question. Answer it for real please:

IF YOU ALREADY THOUGHT I WAS SCUM WITH AA, WHY DID YOU LIE TO GET UNTAINTED READS? you already thought that me and AA where scum, how is lying about your scumpicks justified when you are just trying to luck out and find the third scum somehow from connections of players who havent flipped

 

[th3kuzinator]

X1. Open your eyes for ****s sake, you're going completly after the wrong things. I had suspicions, but I wanted to make sure and further feel you out. As for the third pick, IF I HAD LET ON I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF YOU, YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION: "WHICH INACTIVE SHOULD GO FIRST," DIFFERENTLY IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE YOUR TRUE SENTIMENTS.

^ Why is that not a valid answer?

Goddam gotta tell this guy something 14 times before he gets it.

If you saw my lynch wasn't happening, how would you feel about an AA one toDay since you are feeling better about Seikend?

 

[th3kuzinator]

Ebwop: In an attempt to mask your true sentiments.*

 

[X1-12]

Not at all confident in an AA lynch, but would take it at deadline

X1. Open your eyes for ****s sake, you're going completly after the wrong things. I had suspicions, but I wanted to make sure and further feel you out. As for the third pick, IF I HAD LET ON I WAS SUSPICIOUS OF YOU, YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED THE QUESTION: "WHICH INACTIVE SHOULD GO FIRST," DIFFERENTLY IN AN ATTEMPT TO MASK YOUR TRUE SENTIMENTS.

I understand why you did it, but how does that justify lying to town? You said you were willing a wait a whole Day Phase to lynch me, just so that you can get a slightly better idea of my connections? How does the small benefit of getting a better ideas of connections of an unflipped player, justify the idea of completely lying to the whole of town?