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Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~

th3kuzinator

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I never said you were a dumb ***. I tried my hardest not to curse this game so I know I didn't say that.

And even if I implied it, no I don't. I remember back in the day I ultra tunneled people as town to. I was always wrong but thats how I learned. I remember the only way I got out of doing that was by better players telling me I was stupid so if anything I was just trying to negatively reinforce your actions.
 

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Oh, you never specifically said dumb ***, lol, I was just saying it.

And ok, thanks. It just seemed like you were really treating me like I was stupid. And I still think you're scummy; don't get me wrong there.
 

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http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13077036&postcount=777

seiks first post

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13077043&postcount=778

immediate grilling from scumbud

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13077116&postcount=779

sang notices something is up

Okay, going through the thread.

Still cool with Gargaglione as town. Sure, he was being pri silly to begin with but when he did say relevant things, they were good.

Some of Shadow Moth's early posts are really bleh. So flip floppy and non-commital.

Cool with early BPC too.

Eh, Panta doesn't look as bad as I thought. His case on BPC was ugly but nothing else is particularly noteable. Howeverrr, nothing is notably good either. Pretty much a non-presence. Earned my suspicions, but not a priority.

Acrostic definetely an improvement over SM. Some bleh things, but not a priority either.

WK's push on SW is really bleh, seems so non-comittal in the way he's carrying out, but he's been sticking with it so hard. Like, I don't remember any of his other stances.

Non-presences always suck.

Bleh.

As scum, wouldn't suddenly flipping your stance from ScumKuz to TownKuz when they hold the hammer look horribly artificial and suspiciously co-incidental? There's no natural way WK could have changed his stance on Kuz over a few posts. Could not care less for this reason for WK town and I'm not seeing anything else that shows WK to be town.

Now things get interesting. The Phoenix wagon. First off:

Ding Ding Ding!

SW is right. Inactivity as the reason for a lynch on D1 is just silly. You're relying on chance that they are scum, and odds are they aren't. If they are, great, you got lucky. If they flip town, in D2 you've got the same amount of information as D1, but with one less townie.

@BPC: What is this information you'd get on my flip? Where would you look on my town and scum flip?

Bleh bleh bleh bleh bleh.

Thumbs up. Zen's non presence early on really got to me, but his push on SW looked genuine and I like the above post.

Then there's the "scumslip" from SW. SW remains town, but I don't think anyone looks particularly bad for pushing her there.

Pretty much caught up. Question time!

@Kuz: Why?

Do you have any reasoning for WK town besides the hammer vote point?

@Acrostic: You seem to be a bit all over the place recently. Why? Who would you be fine with lynching toDay?

@WereKill: What do you mean by this? I don't think I understand.

A SW lynch is not viable now. Too many people have her as town. You can keep pushing it all you like in D2, but toDay? Not happening. If your only issue with me is my inactivity, and my slot is now going to be active for the rest of the game, where are you going to look now?

Remind me of your read on Panta, Zen and BPC please.

@Panta Do you feel a BPC lynch could happen toDay?

If so, convince us.

If not, move your vote somewhere useful. Who's most likely scum between myself, WK and SW? Why?

@Gargalione Where you at?

I would favour a WK lynch toDay. At a stretch I'd take Panta and Acrostic over a No Lynch. Everyone else is good for toDay.
Bolded and underlined parts are textbook scum distancing. Really back and forth about his Acrostic read throughout the post. Says he likes some things, says he dislikes some others and then says he would be okay with his scumbuddies lynch over a NL. Yet at the same time he tries to push Werekill and, when that doesn't work, he wagons Panta but he never touches Acrostic.
 

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~The Final D2 Vote Count~

1.) Acrostic (4) Gova, Red Ryu, th3kuzinator, Acrostic
2.) SangfroidWarrior ()
4.) Seikend ()
6.) Red Ryu (1) Werekill
7.) Werekill ()
8.) Zen ()
9.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - SW, Seikend, Zen, Kuz

With 7 playing, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline is August 3rd at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).​

What a hectic day for the organization. So many words were thrown at so many different members it was hard to keep track of what was actually going on. It was hard to tell whom they were actually leaning towards getting rid of until finally one of the members spoke up to the crowd and said the had a good idea. The idea seemed to involve believing an idea that didn't seem to go well with what others had suggested. The other members turned their heads toward the person who had suggested the idea and frowned. No one agreed to it and it seemed that the ruse they had been fooled by had run its course.

They drew their weapons but strangely enough, so did the person. Being the only female member of the organization she was used to having to fight by herself and do things her own way however she was quite the bad***. She never would give anyone the benefit of killing her so after fending off the heat for a while and taking and giving some good blows she finally was cornered to a wall.

"Sorry boys~ This lady gets the last laugh." She demonically laughed. She drew one of her kunai and finished herself off to fade away from the organization members. A few of the members grunted at what she had done because they thought it to be ridiculous while others just pondered why. However it seemed she did have fun while she was still around.



Acrostic, Number XII Larxene, The Savage Nymph, Mafia Goon, has been lynched!

And so with a villain finally taken out, the rest of the members decided they had deserved some sleep. However, they only had taken out half of the team. Tomorrow they would need to figure out who actually was the last member. Who would pair up with the feisty blonde to take down the organization?

Only time could tell...



Night 2 will end August 5th, 2011 11:59 pm.

It could end sooner if night actions are received quicker.
 

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And so another night had passed in The World That Never Was. The remaining organization members slept in their beds so they could rejuvenate their spirits after a bit of excitement over killing one of the ones that was trying to destroy them.

However there was still one person left and they have a vengeance for seeing their lackey go down. He would get revenge for her so he decided it was time to make a very drastic move in the organization's chain of command.

He sauntered through the halls with his weapon already unveiled. Slowly approaching the door of the member who was picked to die. The door was opened slowly and then shut behind the hooded member. The only sounds you could hear next were the fading of a beaten organization member.



SangfroidWarrior, Number VII Saix, The Luna Diviner, Town Deputy, has been killed!

With the second of command taken out, the hooded assassin went back to his room and awaited for the rest to wake up and see his deed. It didn't take too long for this to happen. Seeing this crime to the organization brought the others in a rage. Would the felon get away with this?

Let's find out.


~The First D3 Vote Count~

1.) Seikend ()
2.) Red Ryu ()
3.) Werekill ()
4.) Zen ()
5.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - Seikend, Red Ryu, Werekill, Zen, th3kuzinator

With 5 playing, it takes 3 to lynch!

Deadline is August 10th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).
 

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My town/confirmed/read list, for my future reference:

Town:
RR
Me

Null:
Zen

Scum (in this order):
Kuz
Seikend

I'm totally fine with either of those guys dying today.

Anyway, did NOT expect Acrostic to be scum. I was considering pressuring him toDay, since he was the most towny for far too long, imo, but wow. That doc claim was a huuuge mistake, haha.
 

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Exactly. I also find it suspicious that he logs on, probably leaves a vote, hangs around, then logs off. Is he trying to coast in the hopes that we discuss someone else?

My replacement scum theory is looking more and more likely.

Vote: Seikend
 

th3kuzinator

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vote: seikend

No matter what happens, if there is a toMorrow NO ONE QUICK VOTE. I think this will end the game anyway but on the off chance Zen is scum we don't need anyone quickvoting.

:phone:
 

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~The Final D3 Vote Count~

1.) Seikend (3) Zen, Werekill, th3kuzinator
2.) Red Ryu ()
3.) Werekill ()
4.) Zen ()
5.) th3kuzinator ()
Not voting - Seikend, Red Ryu, Werekill, Zen, th3kuzinator

With 5 playing, it takes 3 to lynch!

Deadline is August 10th at 11:59 PM EST (GMT-5).​

And so with the members reaching a hasty conclusion to their search today they all rapidly jumped onto an unsuspecting member. He had not even spoken today but it seemed everyone was sold on the fact that the man was final killer. Were they right....?

They pulled back his hood and saw the face of the pink haired male and saw they had him. He just grinned. He knew that his fate was sealed but he had done quite a lot of damage to the organization. It would take some time for them to recover and they had lost great allies. His dream of ruling the organization was over and that saddened him. He tried to recall how he was figured out so fast....

The first person to point a finger at the pink haired man was a mammoth of a man. He hair orange hair and wielded a massive axe-sword as his weapon of choice. With a booming voice he said.



Zen, Number V Lexaeus, The Silent Hero, Town Vanilla, said "He's the final member we are looking for." (has won in endgame!) and with that he grabbed an arm of the man.

Another member quickly followed up behind the big man but this time, it was a tinier member. A short blonde one that wielded a key type weapon.



Werekill, Number XIII Roxas, The Key of Destiny, Town Vanilla, said "I'll go along with it as well. He seems likely but I don't like the other guy..." (has won in endgame!) as he grabbed the other arm.

Finally another member appeared from behind the restrained member and gave a smirk.



th3kuzinator, Number II Xigbar, The Freeshooter, Town Vanilla, said "Oh quiet you little runt, we found the baddie so let the adults take care of it now."(has won at endgame!) as he gave a jab into the back of the pink man.

Finally the final person who was walking around slowly stepped up to the man. He was the man in charge of this entire organization and held a presence that would normally strike fear into normal beings. To nobodies, he was known as their leader.



Red Ryu, Number I Xemnas, The Superior of the In-Between, Town Cop, he scoffed "Try and destroy my organization from the inside?"(has won at endgame!)

With that beind said, the final four executed the constrained member with ease. It was finally over, however as he was fading away, there was a dark laugh that could have been heard echoing from the deceased man.



Seikend, Number XI Marluxia, The Graceful Assassin, Mafia Roleblocker, has been lynched!​





Town wins!!!
 

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I've never heard Kuz so confident about a scum read in skype lol
 

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Acrostic, you basically lost scum the game by claiming a PR imo. I don't know why you thought it was a good idea when everyone thought you were town.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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Acrostic, you basically lost scum the game by claiming a PR imo. I don't know why you thought it was a good idea when everyone thought you were town.
I thought Sangfroid was going to claim VT. I thought Kooz was wifom'ing a PR. That's where I slipped.
 

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I played D2 with the preparation of being a PR claim. My statements to Kooz and understanding things from his point of view would only make sense if I was a PR and not a VT. Otherwise the proper response would be to have a perspective like Zen and to doubt Kooz's claim as being legitimate as he was implying that he was VT. I put an early investment into being a PR which I couldn't take back.
 

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If the newbies would like they could nominate one of their players for MVP however I have in mind what I may do with this situation.

MVP: Gova (example)

You can't vote for the ICs. =P I also have some notes I am going to divulge later to all you players. (ICs don't get notes lol.)
 

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MVP: SangfroidWarrior.

Obvious pick. Just overall good reads when she got back and no one doubted her town claim.

My love: Werekill :33
 

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Uh, it wouldn't have mattered who claimed a PR, the fact is that you narrowed down the viable lynches to just 3 people. Even if you were preparing to claim a PR it would have been much better to claim VT since a lot of people thought you were town and the lynch could have swung to either Kuz or Zen very easily, or Seikend for that matter who you spent a lot of time bussing and was only noted as a bus once you claimed a PR.

Also, Vote: No MVP
 

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Mmmm. I still felt that I was preparing the entire day for a PR claim. So I went with it. I'm sorry that it resulted in everything collapsing. But Kooz's strong town read on Sangfroid prevented me from claiming last and prepping ahead of time. Next time I will just stick with the VT claim instead of trying to do too much with a PR claim. I'm sorry to Seikend for not being able to pull off D2. However I did try my best this game and I believe that things just didn't work out as planned. I'll re-evaluate my gameplay and I suppose I'll be more humble when it comes to claiming. I'm sorry that I disappointed you Gova.

With this I'm 0/2 off of trying to do bad PR play on D2. First as town and second as scum. I will consider toning down my gambits and taking more solid slow play in the future.

Seikend I'm sorry that my claim wasn't believable and I showed bad decision making during the process. I panicked in the middle of claims at having the claim order switched and me still not having last spot despite getting the highest overall score. I played a large part in our loss and you have my full apologies. You were a great partner and confidant who stopped me from getting too crazy or excited. I wouldn't have played as well if I didn't have you to bounce ideas off of in the QT. Thank you very much for being my partner this game. If we are scum partners again I promise I will win.
 

Seikend

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Nah nah, don't be sorry Acrostic. Your play was solid throughout, and you looked more town than me for most of the game. If had played better I might have still have pulled out a win after your lynch buuut I wasn't townie enough. You did good, and you taught me stuff and pushed me to be active. You were a good scummate <3.

Proper Shoutouts Later. I'm busy.
 

th3kuzinator

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I thought Sangfroid was going to claim VT. I thought Kooz was wifom'ing a PR. That's where I slipped.
I intentionally let slip that I wasnt a PR, glad you caught that. This was for two reasons.

1. I figured scum wouldnt night kill me in the event we didn't mass claim abd I always feel that stronger players in endgame are more important than PRs.

2. I was thinking about gambiting a PR to discourage scum from claiming one and to gague reactions from the other claimants. That would be my crumb when I told the truth and came clean about being vanilla. Turns out I didnt need to use it either way due to how the game unfolded.

I didnt expect that Acro would see it and assume the exact oppositr of whay I was trying to do haha! Worked to your disadvantage this time but interesting thought process.

:phone:
 

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Also this is the first newbie game town has won in a long time so congratz to everyone affiliated with said town.

My winning streak continues! 6 games in a row w/o losing!

Also my streak of never being in LYLO as town continues as well.

it the little milestones that keep you going haha
 

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@Zen. Ranmaru?

I'm not really sure who I would vote for MVP. I probably would have said Acrostic now being as he was mafia and he seemed so much of a townie and I didn't suspect him til near the end, but... now I'm not so sure.
 
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