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Newbie 13: Organization XIII Mafia ~Town Wins!~

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Infinite Gravity
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I'm leaning no mvp too because Sang was hella scummy at times and was caught in a lie, haha.

Good game, everyone! I'm sad that I was wrong on my Kuz read, but hey, he was pretty scummy sometimes.

Also, I can't believe that self vote worked! It gave people enough pause to reconsider their vote.

And yeah, Zen, I was faking being nonchalant about it like crazy, haha. I was almost in panic mode because town was gonna ML me, and the vote was my last resort.
 

#HBC | Acrostic

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If there is an MVP then give it to Sangfroid. If dice are really that valuable and deserve a higher level of playing then sure, give it to no one. However Sang had both her null-scum and scum reads correct.
 

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Meh. I feel like mvp should go to someone who not only has correct reads, but also isn't too scummy at times.

Really though, Sang, you wouldn't have been that scummy if you weren't so defensive. Try toning it down a bit next game. XD
 

Gova

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Also, to be honest, the thing that bugged me most about this game was Acrostic's constant avatar switching. He has so many good ones but he keeps changing them too much! :mad: Where do you find all of them anyways?
 

SangfroidWarrior

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Haha yeah. It was my first game. I tried to tone it down later in the game but, unlike some, if not all others, it was actually my first online game so I didn't really know how to take it. Other than my little screw-up, I don't think I was actually being that scummy. I think we just don't get each other ;) I can't wait to play with everyone again, though.
 

SangfroidWarrior

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Haha I think that goes for everyone though, making them think I was scum. But, I really was acting so stupid. Hindsight is 20-20 and I just wanna smack myself :chuckle:
 

Panta

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Sacrificial pieces o' junk. :urg: Don't kill people who are on V/La.

If there is an MVP is definitely goes to either Kuz or SW.

Vote: SW
 

SangfroidWarrior

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Panta, just saying, I really do apologize for lynching you. I really don't know where it came from and I didn't want a NL that day. I kinda wanted you around still because I wanted to get to know your play better, but, it happened. Btw, you didn't really say in this thread that you were V/LA. You only said it in UPick. Don't blame that on other people :laugh:. Just a heads up for other games.
 

th3kuzinator

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Dude, Panta.

I swear to the mafia gods if I was not TOTALLY drunk and not here on the night they switched to your wagon, I would not have let that happen. I would have argued it down like a boss. I saw the townie intent behind your posts, don't feel bad about it!

Real talk.
 

Panta

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Dude, Panta.

I swear to the mafia gods if I was not TOTALLY drunk and not here on the night they switched to your wagon, I would not have let that happen. I would have argued it down like a boss. I saw the townie intent behind your posts, don't feel bad about it!

Real talk.
I know. Both of my townie guardians (you and SW) were unable to save me. I wasn't expecting SW to go to a lot of trouble to save me because she would only risk herself getting lynched because she was already suspected, but then when you weren't there for the day, I thought to myself, "No wonder."

It still annoys me that they policy lynched (big terms lol, MS is pretty handy for those :p).

Oh well. I am still glad that we won. :) I also figured that Acro was scum based on his play after I died. Meh.

Werekill, I don't like you calling me lazy and dumb AFTER I was killed with no way to protect or defend myself. I thought I had posted my V/LA messages on both threads, but I didn't.
 

ranmaru

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Ran - always town
swiss - always scum
Red Ryu - Always cop

;o

No seriously, who did u replace?
 

ranmaru

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oh that guy lol. I didn't really have a scum read on him. I just felt off about Phoenix.
 

ranmaru

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Oh hey I was right. : D

I didn't really think Acrostic was scum tho. I would have pushed for phoenix and prolly werekill... werekill prolly cuz of what kuz said or something. I didn't follow along closely. : D
 

ranmaru

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Oh, I wasn't trying to teach. I only used italics because I wanted to say why I wanted to lynch someone today and why I wasn't voting for anyone yet, without sounding wolfy to the players who had never played a game at all. I'm also aware that a day one scum lynch can occur, it just doesn't happen often or easily.



In response to the whole of this post, I want to pressurevote Sangfroid Warrior. From the way you're playing, you seem awfully defensive of your claim that voting for someone who makes jokes often is a good vote choice.
This post right here seemed like classic newb scum. He seemed like he was trying really hard to justify is pressure vote. I would have lynched him asap. Call it gut.
 

th3kuzinator

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Me said:
@Cop: Investigate one of Moth, Phoenix, Zen. Again, the choice is ultimately yours but choosing within this template will be fruitful. I promise.
Man. And then we got all caught up in me directing PRs so BPC didn't even do that.

Whyyy Zen
 

#HBC | J

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Alright these are just some mod notes/critique of mine. ICs won't get any because lol they were only playing to help.

Kuzi/Zen:

Both played well and both seemed to have fun while helping the newbies. Thank you very much for taking the time out to IC and help these newbies learn how to play mafia on this board because it will most likely help them in the long run. You guys taught them some good lessons I'll doubt they will forget haha.

Panta:

Yeaaaaaaaaah you got lynched for all the wrong reasons and were pretty town. There's nothing inherently wrong with AtE but a little bit too much can get you some trouble haha. You did play a good towny looking game but look at how you read people's posts and you should be good. Sorry you got lynched on your V/LA...">.> Thank you for playing!

Gargalione:

Lol you remind me so much of Gord. Especially with the way you came into this game joking around and stuff but then you began to become serious and do some things. However you faded into the background and didn't give much till the Panta push. From what I could gather, you were killed because you left absolutely no traces back to the mafia members so it was considered a safe NK. Thanks for playing!

Acrostic:

Whyyyyyyyyyyyyy did you claim a PR? ;_; No no no no no no just no. You had a really high chance of winning this game because there were only two people who suspected you (Sang/RR) while the rest you had under your finger as "Oh Acro's obvtown." You played a really good game up until your claim. Thank you so much for replacing into the slot because you made this game very entertaining. Scary scum-game in the future, js. Thanks for playing!

Sang:

Getting to you later because there is something I need to bring up. =p

Seikend:

Well duder, thanks for replacing into the slot, I know you started to get a bit more busy but that's alright because you seemed to maintain the slot enough not to receive prods. I don't really have too too much to say w.r.t. you this game simply because you didn't do all that much. *shrug* Thanks for playing!

Werekill:

Maaaaan when you attacked the IC, I have to give you props. When you attack an IC that is Kuzi, I have to give you major props. That takes guts and you seem like the gutsy type player. Thing was though, you had your reads backwards. xP You played a good active game and kept yourself from getting ML'd somehow but overall ya need to work on a few things. You still played well regardless and survived till endgame. Thanks for playing!

P.S. You asked kind of a weird/not nice question towards me and Gova's hosting abilties. We have hosted games before (J side: Nightmare Before Christmas Mafia, Co-Modded Newbie 13, and Resident Evil 4 Mafia | Gova side: KSSU: Newbie 11 and KSSU: Revenge of the Meta Knight Mafia) So we had 5 games combined under our belts. Just saying. =P

Red Ryu:

Dude, thanks for replacing in like so promptly and quickly. You actually had a good Acro read because you were one of the only two people to consider AcroScum against the other odds. Haha at you replacing into the cop slot though. You did play well for replacing in but you need to chillax a bit while playing. I also didn't think they meant that you were an easy ML btw. I think they meant "You were an easier ML then Sang." because it was true. BPC's slot had heat and then out of the claimed PRs, you were the scummiest slot. Thanks for playing!

Sang:

Alright so this is the only person imo as the mod that has a chance of deserving MVP. She played the best out of the newbies for a couple of reasons. She was considered the most obvtown by a majority of the cast and was able to fend off pretty much all suspicion on her, then there was the fact that she had the stand-alone best reads out of anyone including the ICs. By D2 she had not just one scummy pinned but both of them even before the mass-claim mishap happened in which she had to out her PR. Here's the post that makes me heavily lean towards giving her an MVP for her preformance.

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Alright, I've finished catching up. I was so confused about the list things for a while :chuckle:

Anyways, before I do my list, I'm going to do my town- and scum-reads first (not necessarily in order of strongest read).

Town:
Kuzi, Zen, RR, Me. Kuzi just feels town to me. Some of his posts have been iffy but I see the town intent behind them. Zen has posted enough actual content to make me believe he's town. He doesn't seem to really be flipflopping as others have said (even I IIRC) but is more trying to get reads. RR well... mostly because of his claim.

Null:
Werekill, Acro. I'm leaning scum with Werekill but I think it's just because of a grudge. I still don't trust him at all but I'm not sure how much of that is from a strong basis or how much is from how he played earlier in the game. I did a readthrough and still haven't been able to shake myself of the feeling that you might be scum, but I don't really have any basis any more. Gut feelings. With Acro, I did have strong town feelings towards him but... as of late some of his posts have seemed very paranoid. He's reading too much into things and trying to see things that aren't there. He then goes back and changes his mind pretty often. I don't understand where he's coming from. He also is throwing around his vote a lot like it doesn't matter. Sure, it's to pressure people but it's very extreme for some small things, especially in regards to his vote on me D1 and his call for a Zen replacement recently. Even if Zen understands it, I don't and I don't like it. I'm not sure how much of that is from the differences in our play-styles, but I don't like it one bit. Null leaning scum.

Scum:
Seikend. Both of the people in this slot have posted some very non-important material. Phoenix, for one, contributed very little if none at all to the game. Seikend has been posting a lot more but, to me, a lot of it seems to have already been said before or is putting more information out there instead of what he thinks of it. He isn't here much to help the town either. His VT claim doesn't help me either.

Anyways, moving on, I will do another re-read when my head still isn't spinning.

My list of who I want to claim if you still want it:

Kuzi - 2
Zen - 3
Acro - 1

If you all want, I will claim right now. I don't really care.
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Just overall there is not much critique to give her besides one thing. Don't tell silly lies =P You are smarter than that. You have the common sense to play this game and that'll be a great asset as you play more games.

There is the fact of going with the No MVP option because as someone said, not every game needs an MVP. I'm going back and forth on either to give Sang MVP for her preformance or to not.

I'm going to be thinking about this a bit more but atm, it's up in the air.

I hope everyone had a great time playing this game and it was fun for both me and Gova to host. I personally loved the flavour and it all seemed to work out wonderfully. I'll get the role PMs here shortly too!
 

th3kuzinator

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Maaaaan when you attacked the IC, I have to give you props. When you attack an IC that is Kuzi, I have to give you major props. That takes guts and you seem like the gutsy type player.
Pretty much saved himself by being MLd by doing so.

A future note to all town players: when I have you at L-1, attack me fiercely and I might let you slide.
 

#HBC | J

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Duuuuuude you get your own post.

Gova:

This man was the best co-mod like ever. He had a vote-count on EVERY single page of this game and was always so prompt. He was also a great talking buddy to discuss this game with because we had a lot of the same thoughts on the players and everything. He helped pick which set-up we got by flipping coins over skype and that's how it came about. Would love to mod another game with ya duder and it seemed like we made a good team since we are both crazy active haha.
 
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