New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Luco]

Hehe, wait till you get to the giant worms.

Have you met FuSaYa yet(i think thats his name)?

 

[Shorts]

Nice Suicune moveset, I believe she'll definetly be a fast character but heavy considering how big she is.

I liked the moves such as Blizzard and such, her Final Smash was good and all but Hydro Pump is something I'd expect from Blastoise rather than Suicune, personally I would have gone with Whirlwind or maybe Blizzard since she is closer to ice characteristics for that matter.

Also have you checked out The Tin Tower stage concept Star created? It's right next to the Burnex Tower too, a perfect stage for Suicune.

Yeah I saw it. I made the burned tower stage with this moveset.

 

[Starphoenix]

Hehe, wait till you get to the giant worms.

Have you met FuSaYa yet(i think thats his name)?

Who?

Yeah I saw it. I made the burned tower stage with this moveset.

Aaaaand...? Thought's? Since you are probably the better authority.

 

[OmegaXXII]

@Omega:

This isn't in reference to Roy, but just any character. Popularity is popularity, it doesn't matter where it comes from.

I am aware of that, but this also puts Roy in line with everybody else fighting for a shot, putting my personal bias aside any FE character that is popular could make it in as a 3rd rep, such choices would be Sigurd, Lyn, Caeda, BK, Leaf, and Macaiah to some extent.

My point is that any of those have a shot of opportunity since they are all popular, honestly I'd like to see Hector if Sakurai were to go with any of the older games, heck maybe a new FE is in development, if anything Sakurai might "shock" us with a completly new lord, I doubt it ATM but it's a possibility.

 

[Luco]

You'll meet him in due time.

Have you listened to this music yet star? Omega this is another one you should have a look at:

The Lunarians

Hrmmm....

 

[Artsy Omni]

Man, I really ought not to go running that soon after dinner. +_+

 

[soviet prince]

As I promised with 106 takers here is an update of the results so far

Super Mario
Bowser Jr 62
29.38%
Toad 34
16.11%
Waluigi 28
13.27%
Rosalina 12
5.69%
Daisy 5
2.37%
Paper Mario 52
24.64%
Birdo 10
4.74%
No new representation 8
3.79%
Question 2*
The Legend of Zelda
Ghirahim 18
13.24%
Vaati 27
19.85%
Tingle 41
30.15%
Skull Kid 22
16.18%
No new representation 28
20.59%
Question 3*
Pokemon
Mewtwo 63
30.88%
Zoroark 42
20.59%
Genesect 10
4.90%
Victini 20
9.80%
Pokemon trainer 2 25
12.25%
Meowth 16
7.84%
Giovanni 8
3.92%
Team Rocket 12
5.88%
No new representation 8
3.92%
Question 4*
Metroid
Ridley 77
65.25%
Dark Samus 22
18.64%
No representation 19
16.10%
Question 5*
Starfox
Krystal 55
47.41%
Peppy 7
6.03%
Slippy 10
8.62%
No new representation 44
37.93%
Question 6*
F-Zero
Samurai Goroh 35
30.43%
Black Shadow 41
35.65%
No new representation 39
33.91%
Question 7*
Wario
Ashley 17
13.93%
Captain Syrup 21
17.21%
Mona 19
15.57%
No new representation 65
53.28%
Question 8*
Pikimin
Louie 21
19.81%
No new representation 85
80.19%
Question 9*
Donkey Kong
Dixie Kong 25
17.36%
King K. Rool 82
56.94%
Cranky Kong 5
3.47%
Funky Kong 15
10.42%
No new representation 17
11.81%
Question 10*
Yoshi
Kamek 27
24.77%
Baby Mario and Luigi 12
11.01%
No new representation 70
64.22%
Question 11*
Kid Icurus
Medusa 43
34.68%
Palutena 21
16.94%
Magnus 21
16.94%
No new Representation 39
31.45%
Question 12*
Fire Emblem
Black Knight 21
12.80%
Wil 2
1.22%
Micaiah 23
14.02%
Caeda 9
5.49%
Roy 37
22.56%
Leaf 5
3.05%
Sigurd 8
4.88%
Lyn 41
25.00%
No new Representation 18
10.98%
Question 13*
Earthbound
Claus/The Masked Man 27
22.88%
Porky 9
7.63%
Ninten 8
6.78%
Gigyas 11
9.32%
No new Representation 63
53.39%
Question 14*
Retro
Takamaru 45
30.41%
Duck Hunt dog 21
14.19%
Sheriff 6
4.05%
Sukapon 17
11.49%
Balloon fighter 16
10.81%
Exitebiker 4
2.70%
Mike Jones 10
6.76%
No retro characters 29
19.59%
Question 15*
Misc Nintendo Characters
Tom Nook( Animal Crossing) 32
8.70%
Lip 27
7.34%
Ray (Custom Robo) 50
13.59%
Saki Amamiya ( Sin and Punishment) 45
12.23%
Isa Jo ( Sin and Punishment) 6
1.63%
Lil Mac (Punch out) 67
18.21%
King Hippo(punch out) 7
1.90%
Isaac (Golden Sun) 72
19.57%
Matthew (Golden Sun) 14
3.80%
Starfy (The legendary starfy) 40
10.87%
No representation 8
2.17%
Question 16*
3rd Party Characters
Megaman 75
26.88%
Ryu 12
4.30%
Tails 20
7.17%
Dr. Eggman 7
2.51%
Shadow 14
5.02%
Knuckles 10
3.58%
Bomberman 22
7.89%
Earthworm Jim 4
1.43%
Ryu( ninja gaiden) 10
3.58%
Prof. Layton (Prof.Layton) 16
5.73%
Slime (Dragonquest) 11
3.94%
Slime and Chocobo (Dragonquest) 8
2.87%
Cloud(Final Fantasy) 7
2.51%
White Mage (Final Fantasy) 4
1.43%
Black Mage (Final Fantasy) 11
3.94%
Moogle (Final Fantasy) 8
2.87%
Geno ( Mario RPG) 28
10.04%
None of these 12
4.30%

 

[OmegaXXII]

You'll meet him in due time.

Have you listened to this music yet star? Omega this is another one you should have a look at:

The Lunarians

Hrmmm....

I actually liked it, I liked the fading effect it had, nice soothing song, kinda sounds like a lullaby.

 

[Deleted member]

Toad - I don't think it really is an issue. If nothing else can use another item. Or heck, keep her Toad special and have a playable Toad still. The game isn't supposed to be logical. Plus I could think of some funny snapshots if that were the case...

Roy - Oh boy, I knew this would be controversial. Regardless of how people feel he is the most likely candidate, the fact he was in Smash Bros sets him apart from every other character. Because of that he will always be a popular character and familiar face. Like I said, popularity is popularity, it doesn't matter where you get it from. The only real scenario apart from Roy is we don't get another Fire Emblem character. Those are the two likely options.

Mewtwo - Again, I'll pose the question. Who determines that it is unlikely we won't have six Pokémon slots? It certainly isn't because Pokémon isn't large enough.

I dislike Lucario in both the Pokémon series and Smash Bros, but honestly there is no reason he should have to leave. He is still popular and has his fans. Pikachu and Pokémon Trainer sure aren't going anywhere, nor is Jigglypuff likely to go anywhere. If anything is truly unwanted it is a 5th Generation character!

But honestly there is nothing inherently wrong if Pokémon has six slots. Just like if Star Fox hase 4, or Earthbound has 3, or Metroid has 3, or any series has more then they are deemed too. It is not about series, it is about characters.

- I just feel that Sakurai may not put Toad in because of being neutral B Peach move and that Sakurai may not notice the move set potential in him. Then again, this is going into Sakurai's logic, which won't get us anywhere.

- There's also the fact that he was cut in the first place, hurting his chances considerably already. Also note that as you said, we may not even get a new Fire Emblem character and I have my doubts about us getting a new one this time around, plus he has a lot of competition if a new slot were to open up.

- To answer your question, it is Game Freak and Sakurai that decides if we get six slots for not and since I'd like to not be unrealistic, I don't expect six slots to happen. I would love for us to have Mewtwo, Lucario, and Zoroark/Victini/Genesect/Deoxys since I think the franchise is worthy of six slots, but I'm worried we may not even get five in SSB4.

Personally, I don't care who gets the fifth slot (I think the 5th gen will take the fourth one regardless) whenever that is Mewtwo, Lucario, Meowth, or Deoxys. Heck, they could have Scrafty in there and I wouldn't care as long as he played well. However, my bias prefers Mewtwo over Lucario. Still, you do have a point and I do think that Lucario should stay if nothing else as I think the Brawl roster + 5th gen rep would have me content.

However, you do have a point in which a 5th gen rep is the most "unwanted". As we all know, it is a sure bet that we are getting it so not everyone looks forward to it. This especially applies to Zoroark due to similar body structure, so the "hype" for him is more of "He's getting in." then "I want this character!". The fact that people put him on the roster merely due to expecting him turns me off big time and why I don't consider him the best choice we have. I think Arcadenik said something in regards to it. If someone can find the quote, I would appreciate it.

That said, I don't consider Victini to be just "expected", the supporters for it actually want him in SSB4. Having seen people on here and GameFAQs, I would say that if you take out all the people who just say "I support this Pokemon" and only include those who take the time to defend said Pokemon's inclusion, Victini is by far the most supported. What I want to see from Zoroark supporter is for them to have to literally actively defend his chances of being playable. Until that day comes when Zoroark supporters have to do that, I really don't see why people support him other then the general opinion that he's likely.

 

[Artsy Omni]

As I promised with 106 takers here is an update of the results so far

[COLLAPSE="Poll results"]Super Mario
Bowser Jr 62
29.38%
Toad 34
16.11%
Waluigi 28
13.27%
Rosalina 12
5.69%
Daisy 5
2.37%
Paper Mario 52
24.64%
Birdo 10
4.74%
No new representation 8
3.79%
Question 2*
The Legend of Zelda
Ghirahim 18
13.24%
Vaati 27
19.85%
Tingle 41
30.15%
Skull Kid 22
16.18%
No new representation 28
20.59%
Question 3*
Pokemon
Mewtwo 63
30.88%
Zoroark 42
20.59%
Genesect 10
4.90%
Victini 20
9.80%
Pokemon trainer 2 25
12.25%
Meowth 16
7.84%
Giovanni 8
3.92%
Team Rocket 12
5.88%
No new representation 8
3.92%
Question 4*
Metroid
Ridley 77
65.25%
Dark Samus 22
18.64%
No representation 19
16.10%
Question 5*
Starfox
Krystal 55
47.41%
Peppy 7
6.03%
Slippy 10
8.62%
No new representation 44
37.93%
Question 6*
F-Zero
Samurai Goroh 35
30.43%
Black Shadow 41
35.65%
No new representation 39
33.91%
Question 7*
Wario
Ashley 17
13.93%
Captain Syrup 21
17.21%
Mona 19
15.57%
No new representation 65
53.28%
Question 8*
Pikimin
Louie 21
19.81%
No new representation 85
80.19%
Question 9*
Donkey Kong
Dixie Kong 25
17.36%
King K. Rool 82
56.94%
Cranky Kong 5
3.47%
Funky Kong 15
10.42%
No new representation 17
11.81%
Question 10*
Yoshi
Kamek 27
24.77%
Baby Mario and Luigi 12
11.01%
No new representation 70
64.22%
Question 11*
Kid Icurus
Medusa 43
34.68%
Palutena 21
16.94%
Magnus 21
16.94%
No new Representation 39
31.45%
Question 12*
Fire Emblem
Black Knight 21
12.80%
Wil 2
1.22%
Micaiah 23
14.02%
Caeda 9
5.49%
Roy 37
22.56%
Leaf 5
3.05%
Sigurd 8
4.88%
Lyn 41
25.00%
No new Representation 18
10.98%
Question 13*
Earthbound
Claus/The Masked Man 27
22.88%
Porky 9
7.63%
Ninten 8
6.78%
Gigyas 11
9.32%
No new Representation 63
53.39%
Question 14*
Retro
Takamaru 45
30.41%
Duck Hunt dog 21
14.19%
Sheriff 6
4.05%
Sukapon 17
11.49%
Balloon fighter 16
10.81%
Exitebiker 4
2.70%
Mike Jones 10
6.76%
No retro characters 29
19.59%
Question 15*
Misc Nintendo Characters
Tom Nook( Animal Crossing) 32
8.70%
Lip 27
7.34%
Ray (Custom Robo) 50
13.59%
Saki Amamiya ( Sin and Punishment) 45
12.23%
Isa Jo ( Sin and Punishment) 6
1.63%
Lil Mac (Punch out) 67
18.21%
King Hippo(punch out) 7
1.90%
Isaac (Golden Sun) 72
19.57%
Matthew (Golden Sun) 14
3.80%
Starfy (The legendary starfy) 40
10.87%
No representation 8
2.17%
Question 16*
3rd Party Characters
Megaman 75
26.88%
Ryu 12
4.30%
Tails 20
7.17%
Dr. Eggman 7
2.51%
Shadow 14
5.02%
Knuckles 10
3.58%
Bomberman 22
7.89%
Earthworm Jim 4
1.43%
Ryu( ninja gaiden) 10
3.58%
Prof. Layton (Prof.Layton) 16
5.73%
Slime (Dragonquest) 11
3.94%
Slime and Chocobo (Dragonquest) 8
2.87%
Cloud(Final Fantasy) 7
2.51%
White Mage (Final Fantasy) 4
1.43%
Black Mage (Final Fantasy) 11
3.94%
Moogle (Final Fantasy) 8
2.87%
Geno ( Mario RPG) 28
10.04%
None of these 12
4.30%[/COLLAPSE]

Man, that is a formatting nightmare. XP

 

[OmegaXXII]

@soviet prince: Collapse it, also who is actually voting on this?

 

[Luco]

It's when you're on the moon. It's kind of strange, because half the time it's pretty much as if you're walking on glass.

And on the note of edward's theme, star, don't you just love how it's such a desperate battle to such a peaceful tune?

Also, the Lunarians also plays when Cecil becomes a Paladin:

Cecil's Transformation

Watch that, or if you want to wait until you play the game, thats fair enough.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Nice theme suggestions, should play it very soon.

 

[soviet prince]

can not really help the layout I got it on word but don't see a attach document feature on this website

 

[OmegaXXII]

Just edit it out, and collapse, not really hard IMO.

 

[soviet prince]

try this

http://www.kwiksurveys.com/results-overview.php?survey_ID=NMELMO_520de7a5

 

[Deleted member]

soviet prince, can you please format the poll in a better way? I have a hard time reading that.

 

[Luco]

Ok, one more bit of nostalgia, probably my favourite tune from Chrono Trigger:

Boss Battle (2)

I will always remember versing rex on that.

 

[Starphoenix]

You'll meet him in due time.

Have you listened to this music yet star? Omega this is another one you should have a look at:

The Lunarians

Hrmmm....

Yes I have.

After getting through most of the way in this game, here are my favortie tracks.

Final Fantasy IV- Into the Darkness ~ Mist Cave Theme
Final Fantasy IV - Melody of Lute ~ Edward's Theme
Final Fantasy IV - A Long Way to Go (this song is so epic at the point at which it plays with Cecil's transformation)
Final Fantasy IV - Battle with the Four Fiends (beginning reminds me of BoF)
Final Fantasy IV - Mystic Mysidia
Final Fantasy IV - Boss Theme (I this song SOOOO much!!!! )

 

[Luco]

Aww, not Cry in Sorrow? I absolutely adored that theme.

 

[OmegaXXII]

Yes I have.

After getting through most of the way in this game, here are my favortie tracks.

Final Fantasy IV- Into the Darkness ~ Mist Cave Theme
Final Fantasy IV - Melody of Lute ~ Edward's Theme
Final Fantasy IV - A Long Way to Go (this song is so epic at the point at which it plays with Cecil's transformation)
Final Fantasy IV - Battle with the Four Fiends (beginning reminds me of BoF)
Final Fantasy IV - Mystic Mysidia
Final Fantasy IV - Boss Theme (I this song SOOOO much!!!! )

These are a greT selection, I need to get it for PSX soon, I might get the songs for the time being though.

 

[soviet prince]

loaded it up on my blog site
http://forum2.aimoo.com/tabletopgaming/General-Discussion/poll-1-1007030.html

 

[Luco]

Mysidia was a funny tune. So quirky! :D

 

[smashless gama]

(I've been dying to scream this even though I'm a little late): some of the most popular character suggestions are terrible. Honestly, Ridley and Tingle are just far too dumb to be considered playable.
Yeah I know we're talking about music now, but I have like barely any horizon in this world of good games. Just wanted to put that out there. Ignore me. :\

 

[Starphoenix]

One of my other favorite RPG battle musics of all time!

Secret of Evermore - Mid Boss

Oh my goodnesss, the memories!

 

[Luco]

Awww, yeah! Shivers down my spine!

Aww, not Cry in Sorrow? I absolutely adored that theme.

It went up the page really quickly.

Speaking of SoE themes:

Final Boss

I always used the spear for this one when i didn't have the bazooka shells left, but i also used a few spells.

 

[Starphoenix]

Another favorite boss RPG tune.

Breath of Fire 2 - I'll Do It

More memories...

Speaking of SoE themes:

Final Boss

I always used the spear for this one when i didn't have the bazooka shells left, but i also used a few spells.

THOSE FREAKING RAPTORS! You are dead if you don't know and have the ingredients for the "Shield" alchemy spell.

 

[Luco]

Actually i seem to recall being able to do it without shield. After a while i got used to where i needed to be to get the raptors. It was hard, but i got it.

 

[army man]

(I've been dying to scream this even though I'm a little late): some of the most popular character suggestions are terrible. Honestly, Ridley and Tingle are just far too dumb to be considered playable.
Yeah I know we're talking about music now, but I have like barely any horizon in this world of good games. Just wanted to put that out there. Ignore me. :\

i know right? tingle is only really popular in Japan. there is alot better LoZ characters out there. And Ridley, isn't he a bit big to be in ssb?

 

[OmegaXXII]

Speaking of which, I still need to get Breath of Fire 3, hmm.. I might check it out now.

 

[soviet prince]

(I've been dying to scream this even though I'm a little late): some of the most popular character suggestions are terrible. Honestly, Ridley and Tingle are just far too dumb to be considered playable.
Yeah I know we're talking about music now, but I have like barely any horizon in this world of good games. Just wanted to put that out there. Ignore me. :\

Ridley to dumb how so, he is very important character in metroid ?

Tingle I agree on

 

[OmegaXXII]

Tingle is dumb, Ridley is deserving enough said.

/discussion

 

[Starphoenix]

I'll tell you about a hidden SNES gem with great music, Skyblazer. This goes down as one of my 10 SNES soundtracks of all time! THAT is how good it is. Sad thing is much of the music isn't available on Youtube, outside of watching play throughs. Have to fix that sometime.

Skyblazer - Falls of Torment
Skyblazer - Lair of Kharyon
Skyblazer - Tower of Tarolisk

 

[OmegaXXII]

Skyblazer? Too bad I don't own a SNES, sounds interesting though.

 

[Gallowglass]

Beserker would be proud of you son!

who that in your avi? Looks like an amazing Little mac contender.

Why Thank You.

My avi is a Little Mac contender. It's Mike Tyson.

I just finished my Little Mac Character design. I think it's a little dry in some areas but I like it.

http://www.smashboards.com/news/blogs/165266/4522/little-mac-for-ssb4-character-concept

 

[soviet prince]

loaded it up on my blog site
http://forum2.aimoo.com/tabletopgaming/General-Discussion/poll-1-1007030.html

so what you all think? Also new goal is 200

 

[army man]

ghirahim is gay, just saying, haven't you seen the trailers. lol

 

[Starphoenix]

Skyblazer? Too bad I don't own a SNES, sounds interesting though.

Seriously though, it is a hidden gem but a VERY fun game.
http://youtu.be/JjOY5j81YaM

I'd make him my shock support character if I could...

 

[Luco]

Oh my goodness, top 10 tower themes and he did DKC2! YES!

 

[smashless gama]

i know right? tingle is only really popular in Japan. there is alot better LoZ characters out there. And Ridley, isn't he a bit big to be in ssb?

Much too big, agreed. I am, however, in favor of Bowser Jr, Waluigi, Megaman, and Ganondorf with a sword. Trash Sonic and ROB altogether. Bring back Roy and Mewtwo.