New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Conviction]

Are you blind? They don't look the same.

@Oasis: Both.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

are YOU blind? its the same except the wii version added red stripes

the same amount of pixels

 

[Starphoenix]

Now we can use this as a guage of what SSB4 stages could look like.

Sin and Punishment stage in HD would be eye candy.

Speaking of which, I was over at NeoGAF and saw a thread asking which Wii game people wanted to see a sequel for on the Wii U. A lot of people threw out Xenoblade and Sin and Punishment. Both of those games have amazing graphics and would make for phenomenal stages.

 

[Oasis_S]

It looks like the Wii U version can render better what you're ACTUALLY FOCUSED ON, but if you look at the foreground and background, it seems less detailed. Though I don't understand how and why that would be.



STAR. Would you recommend Sin & Punishment 2 for a rental to play co-op with my friends for a night.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

@Star No returning Delfino Plaza? ;_;

 

[Diddy Kong]

This is one of the better moments with Oasis. ******* knows I'm a sucker for nostalgica...

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

I dont think any stages from gamecube games should return. gamecube sucks

bring back dr. mario!

 

[FlareHabanero]

Ahhh so it's a high priority projectile? Laser-like hitbox, can't clash with anything. I caught your edit. XD

Actually, Angelic Missile is a tackle of sorts based on the power of the same name from Kid Icarus: Uprising. Basically when activated, your character would leap out at high speeds like a rocket. It had high knockback, but low power.

I understand this, are you asking for a disjoint or that they just make his weapon a smidge bigger this time around?

The weapon would be bigger hit box wise. I don't think disjointed hitboxes similar to Snake are necessary.

P.S. You need to post more, I can get into these types of conversations.

Unfortunatly, my internet is kind of crap at the moment. Due to moving out of my previous house, I have to stick with this sluggish broadband thing until I get my cable back. So don't expect a lot of postings from me at the moment.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

Dr. Mario is from N64, but he was on the melee which was for gamecube if anyone was wondering

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

wavedashing should be back, but as a single button command. Email sakurai immediately!!! :D

 

[Johnknight1]

But what does his looks have do with him being popular in one area?

Nothing, it's just Ike looks like a Central/Easter European, while Marth looks Japanese. It doesn't necessarily have to do with something, but it is something I noticed...

John, get on skype.

Lent my mic to my brother yesterday, so I don't have a mic, lol!

 

[Conviction]

are YOU blind? its the same except the wii version added red stripes

the same amount of pixels

There are more details throughout picture of the Wii U

 

[Starphoenix]

STAR. Would you recommend Sin & Punishment 2 for a rental to play co-op with my friends for a night.

I'll do better than that, I'd say buy it if you can. I got a new copy at Gamestop for $20. I guarantee you it is one of the best titles on the Wii U, period.

@Star No returning Delfino Plaza? ;_;

Sorry, two stages in one is kind of a good deal, especially when they are iconic locations.

 

[JavaCroc]

It looks like the Wii U version can render better what you're ACTUALLY FOCUSED ON, but if you look at the foreground and background, it seems less detailed. Though I don't understand how and why that would be.

I would disagree. Notice how the tower in the far background is more clearly detailed in the Wii U image than the PS3 image, as well as the vibrancy of the lighting in the background.

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This is one of the better moments with Oasis. ******* knows I'm a sucker for nostalgica...

I think I'm one of few young people on this earth who didn't watch much Lion King at all in my youth. I only found my love for that film two years ago.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Dr. Mario is from N64, but he was on the melee which was for gamecube if anyone was wondering

Dr. Mario is from the NES era.

 

[Oasis_S]

Thing is my Wii is borked, and I could only play it if I was visiting with my friends which I plan to do again soon.

I guess I could buy it and just WAIT until I get a Wii U... :I

I also think playing the original S&P on the Wii U will be more enjoyable since I believe I've been playing it with some LAG due to using an HDTV.

 

[Conviction]

Actually, Angelic Missile is a tackle of sorts based on the power of the same name from Kid Icarus: Uprising. Basically when activated, your character would leap out at high speeds like a rocket. It had high knockback, but low power.

Ahh, I didn't get to see that shown off in the playthrough I watched. I understand now.

Unfortunatly, my internet is kind of crap at the moment. Due to moving out of my previous house, I have to stick with this sluggish broadband thing until I get my cable back. So don't expect a lot of postings from me at the moment.

Sadface.

 

[Starphoenix]

Thing is my Wii is borked, and I could only play it if I was visiting with my friends which I plan to do again soon.

I guess I could buy it and just WAIT until I get a Wii U... :I

I also think playing the original S&P on the Wii U will be more enjoyable since I believe I've been playing it with some LAG due to using an HDTV.

Ah I see. Yeah just rent it, not like Star Successor is really going anywhere.

 

[Oasis_S]

Maybe by then it will be $10. 8D

8DDD

Saki's Son is the Bargain Bin Boy.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Don't you think Mario could get a couple past stages? I'd like to think it could. As much as I love the classic goodness of Mushroomy Kingdom, Sunshine has a special place in my heart.

Oh, and what about a Luigi's Manson: Dark Moon stage? I think that series could stand to get its own icon (at least for the stage, and any other content besides Luigi), considering it's getting a sequel and a Nintendo Land game.

 

[Starphoenix]

Don't you think Mario could get a couple past stages? I'd like to think it could. As much as I love the classic goodness of Mushroomy Kingdom, Sunshine has a special place in my heart.

Oh, and what about a Luigi's Manson: Dark Moon stage? I think that series could stand to get its own icon (at least for the stage, and any other content besides Luigi), considering it's getting a sequel and a Nintendo Land game.

As it stands we only have one returning stage per series from the previous game. I'm going with that model right now.

...Honestly I forgot about Dark Moon, although I've gone on record saying that I'm pretty positive we will be getting a new Luigi's Mansion stage (Luigi's Greater Mansion).

The only Mario I want to believe can happen, though I'm confident won't, is Princess Peach's Birthday Cake.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

what if the moon was a stage?

 

[Oasis_S]

...Honestly I forgot about Dark Moon

Well it does star Luigi, who could blame you.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

sorry I just heard luigi had a game on the moon but the moon was also in paper mario and majora's mask. Which version of the moon should appear?

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

what if stages had alternate costumes and you could change their appearances and colors and interactable items?

 

[Starphoenix]

Well it does star Luigi, who could blame you.

I think somewhere in my mind I just separated the two. *shrugs*

Super Mario Galaxy - Starship Mario
New Super Mario Bros - Bowser's Castle
Luigi's Mansion - Luigi's Greater Mansion
Mario Kart/Sports - Rainbow Road
Paper Mario/RPG - Toad Town

That list looks solid to me. We had five new Mario stages added in Brawl, so this is not something that would be too shocking.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

@pit changes
Iblis how important is arrow camping (I think that's what circling arrows above is called) to a good pit player? Because the new idea completely eliminates it. Besides that IMO the current arrows are better.

Also I'd rather have something like black hole for the new side special. Not only because it's a lot more unique than a move that charges forward but also because it gives pit a reliable escape against characters in his face and it can potentially be a good way to start/continue combos. The downside though is if it can be abused it will make pit an extremely good staller =\.

 

[Conviction]

@pit changes
Iblis how important is arrow camping (I think that's what circling arrows above is called) to a good pit player? Because the new idea completely eliminates it. Besides that IMO the current arrows are better.

Circling arrows are uselss.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Pit should just have the Aurum Orbitars as his primary weapon in Smash 4. There, it's settled.

 

[~automatic]

He didn't have those in the original Kid Icarus.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

While that was a horrible, tasteless joke I made, it would be a shame if Pit didn't have any Uprising changes in SSB4.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

The aurum orbitars suck though =P

I dunno iblis I remember them being helpful for mind games and emergency GTFO moves and the pit guide says there's some use to them. But I guess you've come across a few a pit players and would probably know better.

 

[GiantBreadbug]

Palutena: That was the point of the joke!

Pit: Jokes? At a time like this?

disfunk: ...

Iwata: (laughs)

 

[---]

Other than a new Final Smash, I'd bet against Pit getting any other new moves from Uprising. If anything, Palutena (and the rest) would get those weapons.

Just got another stage concept done I'll post it in a sec.

 

[Conviction]

It's more flashy than anything. If you get hit by that it's a one time gimmick that becomes quickly eliminatable in option covering in mid-level play.

 

[Starphoenix]

Just got another stage concept done I'll post it in a sec.

I'm waiting for it dude. Sure it'll be good.

 

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Fight a top skyscrapers in the largest city in the Pokemon series, Castelia City.

Taking inspiration from a few past stages, here you fight a top roof tops, the center building being the Battle Company building. The stage changes from day to night, but being in the big city there's still plenty of lights.

The stage also features cameos through signs that are plasted on building walls both in the background and foreground highlighting places in the city such as Game Freak (4th Wall!!!), Casteliacones, and the Central Park.

Unlike a lot of stages, when you zoom out the camera zooms out quite far in order to give a sense of scale, you can even see locations such as Sky Arrow Bridge, Unity Tower, and the Liberty Garden as well as the busy streets below.

Various flying and roaming Pokemon can be seen in the background such as Pidove, Swanna, and even occationally Tornadus, Thundurus, and Landorus.

Stage Example:
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Stage Name: Castelia City
Stage Icon: Pokeball

Music:
Pokemon Red/Blue - Main Theme
Pokemon Black/White - Wild Pokemon Battle
Pokemon Black/White - Castelia City
Pokemon Black/White - Sky Arrow Bridge
Pokemon Black/White - Nimbasa City
Pokemon Black/White - Route 10
Pokemon Black/White - Team Plasma Battle
Pokemon Diamond/Pearl - Route 210
Pokemon Gold/Silver - Route 26
Pokemon Red/Blue - Route 1 (Brawl)
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire - Wild Pokemon Battle (Brawl)
Pulseman - Neo Tokyo

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

no more pokemon!! >

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

NEW pokemon stages/characters will only be on the 3ds version so take it to that thread

 

[Disfunkshunal]

@bread[]
The "=P" should have implied I didn't take it seriously O_o.

I guess that makes sense iblis.

That reminds me of the saffron city stage.