New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Wizzrobe]

Thinks =/= Fact. We have no way to figure out how it'll turn out.

[glow]My point from the beginning was that a majority of Smashers would prefer Melee over Brawl if they fully understood each game. Not everyone, just most people Melee has More options, combos,and mindgames then brawl.[/glow]

...Brawl has a ton more options. Mindgames are much more important in Brawl.[/QUOTE]

Melee has more options, Due to all the things you can do with all the technical capabilities, And you can be creative with combos, and shield pressure. And mindgames arent much more important in Brawl. Mindgames work better in Melee because of wavedashes, moonwalks, etc. Mindgames might be slightly more important in Brawl, but that's only because your more limited with your options.

 

[Lukingordex]

There will never be another Mother, nope.

Yeah,but I hope we can have one more mother character for smash.

 

[Johnknight1]

Trying to look up Giuege on Google will show you disturbing images, even with SafeSearch on.

I still don't understand why out of any video game series that MOTHER is the 1 with the creepy porn!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I still don't understand why out of any video game series that MOTHER is the 1 with the creepy porn!

Well, the series creator based Giygas off his disturbed reaction from witnessing violent porn when he was child

 

[Deleted member]

I still don't understand why out of any video game series that MOTHER is the 1 with the creepy porn!

It helps when the final boss of Mother 1 and 2 was inspiried by what was perceived by the creator to be a **** scene.

 

[Disfunkshunal]

Do you guys think there is any hope for a new Mother game?

This isn't what I was talking about but it should answer your question http://earthboundcentral.com/2011/04/shigesato-itoi-discusses-mother-4/

 

[Johnknight1]

It helps when the final boss of Mother 1 and 2 was inspiried by what was perceived by the creator to be a **** scene.

It was actually a scene where two people did it (not ****, and nothing sexual was shown) in some Japanese film. He just thought it was **** because he was a child, and he didn't understand what he was watching. Plus nobody explained it to him! I mean, Itoi was younger than 10 when it happened!

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

It was actually a scene where two people did it (not ****, and nothing sexual was shown) in some Japanese film. He just thought it was **** because he was a child, and he didn't understand what he was watching. Plus nobody explained it to him! I mean, Itoi was younger than 10 when it happened!

Yep, he looked up the movie later in his life and realized there isn't actually **** in it.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

...Please learn to quote better. :/

My point from the beginning was that a majority of Smashers would prefer Melee over Brawl if they fully understood each game. Not everyone, just most people Melee has More options, combos,and mindgames then brawl.

It's an interesting theory, but unfounded.

Melee has more options, Due to all the things you can do with all the technical capabilities, And you can be creative with combos. And mindgames arent much more important in Brawl. Mindgames work better in Melee because of wavedashes, moonwalks, etc.

Trust me, mindgames in Brawl is key. They both have tons of options, anyway.

Likewise, they're different games with different players and different options.

People play them both rather equally, clearly. As pointed out earlier.

 

[Johnknight1]

Mind games in Brawl are key=???

Dude, Mind Games IN LIFE ARE KEY!!!

If you mind game death good enough, you will never die until you feel like it ssssuuuuuunnnnn!!!

 

[Deleted member]

It was actually a scene where two people did it (not ****, and nothing sexual was shown) in some Japanese film. He just thought it was **** because he was a child, and he didn't understand what he was watching. Plus nobody explained it to him! I mean, Itoi was younger than 10 when it happened!

Read the quote again. I said "what the creator perceived to be".

 

[Johnknight1]

Golden, I was merely adding that for people who didn't know it Silly. Besides, I saw that part.

 

[Lukingordex]

It was actually a scene where two people did it (not ****, and nothing sexual was shown) in some Japanese film. He just thought it was **** because he was a child, and he didn't understand what he was watching. Plus nobody explained it to him! I mean, Itoi was younger than 10 when it happened!

 

[Deleted member]

Well, with the way you worded it, it sounded like you were correcting me.

 

[Johnknight1]

Golden, I am merely always testing you, as I previously stated. You need to keep up with mehs sunnn!!!

 

[Wizzrobe]

...Please learn to quote better. :/



It's an interesting theory, but unfounded.



Trust me, mindgames in Brawl is key. They both have tons of options, anyway.

Likewise, they're different games with different players and different options.

People play them both rather equally, clearly. As pointed out earlier.

We could keep arguing forever and I can tell that you will never stop. I am not going to argue back because This conversation isn't really going anywhere at this point so I am going to stop. I also want to go to bed lol.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

A lot of little kids think that the man is hurting the woman when they see sex

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

We could keep arguing forever and I can tell that you will never stop. I am not going to argue back because This conversation isn't really going anywhere at this point so I am going to stop. I also want to go to bed lol.

Night.

Do you know how to multiquote? You just put more Quote tags in.

 

[Lukingordex]

A lot of little kids think that the man is hurting the woman when they see sex

When I was little,I tought they were playing roller coaster.

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Pyscho
Yeah Psycho, pretty much I agree. Still there was no sex-related body part shown. I assume he probably thought that because the man probably had his arms all over the woman, which of course looks like he is trying to physically control her. o.O

Over-analysis is over-analyzing!

 

[Lukingordex]

Night.

Do you know how to multiquote? You just put more Quote tags in.

Why not click on the yellow button?
It is more easy...

 

[SmashChu]

Yet all but one of those games you mentioned sold more than the previous versions of games on the Gamecube.[COLLAPSE="A lot of boring sales talk that proves my point that Wii titles generally sold better than Gamecube titles:"]Sunshine sold about 5 million units, while Galaxy sold about 10 million units. Galaxy 2 also sold about 7 million units. NEW Super Mario Bros. also sold about 26 million units.

Twilight Princess sold less than 2 million copies on the Gamecube, and about 6 million copies on the Wii. The Wind Waker sold about 3 million copies, and Skyward Sword has already sold a few hundred thousand units more than that the Wind Waker. This was done in less than a month after Skyward Swords' release.

Mario Kart Double Dash sold about 7 million units. Mario Kart Wii sold about 32 million units. That's more than 4 times as many copies, which fits my model.

The only case where the sales of a Nintendo series you mentioned had relatively the same sales or went down was with the Metroid Prime games. Metroid Prime sold about 2 million, Metroid Prime 2 sold a little less than a million units, while Metroid Prime has sold a bit over a million units.[/COLLAPSE]Again, Brawl only sold about 2 1/2 million units more copies than Melee on a console that sold 4 times as many units. That's not that huge of a difference.

Besides that, a lot of Brawl's sales are a direct result of Melee's positive fan reaction, which in turn a lot of that rooted from people learning of Smash through Smash 64 by playing it at friends' house/word of mouth, and Nintendo hyping Melee more than any game on the Gamecube title for the console's launch. The former is how I got into smash.

Most of the information is wrong or you can't do basic math. 7x4=28. And Mario Sunshine sold 6 million, not 5. None of the games you mentioned had a 4 times increase (although MKW had way more than that).

No. I thought Double Dash was the worst game in the series (followed by Mario Kart Wii).

Let me quote the 1st part of your post.

You aren't even arguing with what I was saying. You are just listing facts that do not prove people like Brawl more than Melee. You are just proving it sold more copies.

Also, your Japan argument means nothing. It's just 1 country, and it's not America. That is where most of the sales and profits for Nintendo games and products comes from.

Regardless, you assume better sales = a better game and happier fans. That isn't necessarily true. Resident Evil 5 sold more than Resident Evil 4. However, most of the people bought Resident Evil 5 because of Resident Evil 4. If people really liked Resident Evil 5, they'll buy Resident Evil 6.

That's nice, but again
Still sells a lot on Amazon, meaning it retains value
It still has a crap ton of hours played

Want to know what I mean about specific

Also, your Japan argument means nothing. It's just 1 country, and it's not America. That is where most of the sales and profits for Nintendo games and products comes from.

How does that prove your point, which is that people didn't like Brawl? It only tries to counter the point I made. It doesn't help your argument.

This argument is emotional. You want to believe that Brawl is not as popular as Melee and everyone doesn't like it, but there is no evidence of that. In fact, everything points the opposite way. The facts say that people liked Brawl.

 

[Deleted member]

Let's all stop with the **** Melee vs. Brawl arguments, and all agree that Flint Norris should be in Smash.
Or you will take plywood to the face.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Let's all stop with the **** Melee vs. Brawl arguments, and all agree that Flint Norris should be in Smash.
Or you will take plywood to the face.

The OTHER Mother conversation seems more exciting to me

 

[Deleted member]

You want to talk about Mother 1 Giygas porn?!

 

[Johnknight1]

Night Hyper. Don't get eaten.

@ Smash Chu
Still, percentage-wise most of those Gamecube games mentioned with Wii sequels sold a higher percentage of more copies than Brawl did compared to Melee (43%).

And stop saying I'm not saying Brawl is popular. I'm saying there is no clear concrete proof that Brawl is more popular than Melee. All I'm saying is what I just said, and that Brawl is partially popular because of Melee, and that Brawl didn't sell a huge difference from Melee (43% more), especially when you consider the Wii sold about 4 times as many units as the Gamecube.

@ Golden
No. I want to talk about porn of Snake's boss.

Also, I find it funny that after all those Brawl videos of Snake and various characters... doing "stuff" in the box that Snake can do "stuff" in the box in Peace Walker!

 

[Deleted member]

Well, Colonel Campbell is pretty sexy JK.

Anyways, I have checked the time, and it is now Ridleh Tiem.
So, what can be discussed about the anorexic purple dragon with stalking issues?

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, Colonel Campbell is pretty sexy JK.

Anyways, I have checked the time, and it is now Ridleh Tiem.
So, what can be discussed about the anorexic purple dragon with stalking issues?

You want to bring Ridley porn into this now?

We need to change the subject

 

[Metal Mania1321]

Brawl has more characters, so it is better.

 

[Deleted member]

You want to bring Ridley porn into this now?

We need to change the subject

Ridley is too big.

But seriously, what can be discussed about Ridley at this point?
I suppose merely what he would look like, like Brawl vs. Other M.
And what moves he would have.

 

[Johnknight1]

59 characters including Shadow Mario, the Duck Hunt Dog, Krystal, and Magnus but no Toon Link or Lucario=??? Yuck.

@ Golden
Don't do Ridley porn. Instead, let's talk wingspan!

 

[Deleted member]

I wasn't talking about Ridley porn...
Now, I ask again, what would he look like? His appearance in Brawl, or his (clone) appearance in Other M?
And what exactly would Ridley have for moves?
People feel he should have that move where he flaps his wings to create wind in Brawl, but I feel that's scraping at the bottom of the barrel...

 

[Johnknight1]

You were talking about talking about the subject, which is making me talk about talking about talking about it.

-Ridley would be purple by default, and look like he did in Brawl (but smaller, herpa derpa).

-Ridley would have a red (Super Metroid), green, blue, white, black, gold, silver, and possibly armor alternate colors/appearances. That would be pretty awesome!

-Oh, and he would be based off the original Metroid/Metroid: Zero Mission, not Other M.

-His wings should retract when he's not flying.

-As for his moves, he'd be awesome. That's all I know!

 

[Deleted member]

Ridley in Melee and Brawl is based off of Super Metroid's artwork, but made purple like the original Metroid, just so you know.

 

[Johnknight1]

Yeah, pretty much that is pretty similar to his Zero Mission look. This is with the changes of the tail to make it more realistic, of course.

So yeah, Super Metroid and Metroid: Zero Mission Melee/Brawl modification of Ridley for the win.

Also, I would love to see Meta Ridley (like in my profile picture) be playable. That would be all kinds of awesome!

 

[Big-Cat]

This is for you Kuma

Also Melee > Brawl. I'm starting to like John a lot, despite our differences.

 

[Deleted member]

It would, and I even sent Sakurai something about it on his Twitter (Meta Ridley, I mean), as I used to be a major Meta Ridley supporter. Sadly, I have given up and now full on expect regular Ridley. Oh well. As long as it's Ridley. (Except if it's his infant and juvenile stages from Other M)

 

[Johnknight1]

@ Kuma
That's because I am the bell of the ball.

Plus I offer all of you the humor only have.

Sakurai: So anywa-

Iwata: -Smash Bros!

Iwata: (laughs)

Also shorts, that cover is amazing!

 

[Deleted member]

Needs more Waa.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

You were talking about talking about the subject, which is making me talk about talking about talking about it.

-Ridley would be purple by default, and look like he did in Brawl (but smaller, herpa derpa).

-Ridley would have a red (Super Metroid), green, blue, white, black, gold, silver, and possibly armor alternate colors/appearances. That would be pretty awesome!

-Oh, and he would be based off the original Metroid/Metroid: Zero Mission, not Other M.

-His wings should retract when he's not flying.

-As for his moves, he'd be awesome. That's all I know!

I could see his Up-B being him jumping up into the air and stabbing his tail down at an angle...

And I would imaging his Neutral-B being a chargable fireball.