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**** this moves too damn fast.
yeah Kojima basically sucked Sakurai's ****.
Falco is basically the StarFox luigi.
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Actually speaking of Sonic they should have a stage with Sonic physics and it scrolls through a Sonic level. I'm imagining Air Valley from SA1.
I hope your speakers break.
thisSmash 4 better use the Gamecube controller.
this tooD: you locked the old SSB4 thread!?
Whyyyyyyyyy!?
But yeah, super excited for Smash 4.
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-______- if the hazards are competitively manageable it's good.better have a ****load of stage with random hazard and just a couple of neutrals
Ryu vs. Snake sounds mad fun yo. Cloud could be a MK/Ike mix tbhMegaman or Ryu will definitely be in the game. I'm leaning a bit towards Megaman. I'd say Square will probably get the other new third party slot, probably Black Mage or some Dragon Quest\Chrono Trigger character. Other than that, I'm done with character predictions until Nintendo gives us a teaser.
As far as stages, I think Sora needs to learn the difference between fun gimmicks and annoying ones. Mute City, Brinstar, and like stages were fun. Mario Bros. and WarioWare were just annoying. Other than that, I normally don't care that much about stage design. I focus more on the music and scenery.
ThisssssssssssssssssA bunch of neutrals would be nice, not too many either, I care less about where the stage is coming from I.e. Mario, zelda, pokemon etc.. In the end it all comes down to playability and whether or not hazards make a big impact or not.
What do you guys think about the "shoulder" add-on
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To be honest, Snake barely had a chance to make the roster, he only made it in because Kojima heavily influenced Sakurai to include him, otherwise we would have ended up with Megaman or possibly the "all time" favorite Geno.
Sadly if anyone from Square has a chance, it's anybody from Dragon Quest swords, which means no Cloud Strife :/
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SF could make to fit.What I meant from that was, in the article the person being interviewed said it was a miracle they could put characters from the various video game universes together in a believable fashion and he's not sure he can fit a Capcom character in and make it believable. If they made Snake believable in a universe with Mario and Pikachu, I hardly see how Megaman wouldn't fit in with them. I mean, Megaman with Nintendo characters has already been done in Captain N
Why do people complain about swords? We don't complain about fists. LOLHow about someone from one of the SNES Final Fantasies? I wouldn't rule out Cecil from FFIV, though he would be another sword user.
-____________- please no miis, also xp can mean broken if a good cap isn't put. Also I think TL is staying.Soooo we can already confirm Mii as playable whatnot with the whole "Getting experience in the 3DS and send it to the U to play i there." Sound like a custom character like thing, and the Miis fit the description perfectly.
Unless they decide to let players create characters and edit them using preexisting movesets (ala SoulCalibur 4), which would be completely badass. I don't see it happening though, too much resources and the like. Much rather they would focus on gameplay.
Also, there's a possibility that some characters from Brawl will be axed, seeing that on his interview, sakurai mention that he doesn't want to recreate brawl and just add to the existing roster. If this were to happen, who will be the first to go? My opinion? WW Link. Just saying.
When was Saki in SSB?I really don't understand why people still want Cloud in Super Smash Brothers. He hasn't been on a Nintendo system and would probably end up as a projectile-less clone of Saki.
Get em.Although I don't understand why Square is one of the potential 3rd party companies appearing in Smash in eyes of so many people, how Cloud can be a clone of someone who is not even playable yet?
Laser sword=/=bigass swordI said "probably". And considering that Saki Amamiya was an AT in Brawl and had a series revival, he's definitely a likely candidate. Also, compare Cloud's design to Saki's:
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They're just too similar, and Sakurai made it a point that the potential characters had to have been on a Nintendo system before being a candidate. (Solid Snake was already in 3 games on Nintendo systems by 2001, 4 by 2008 and 5 by the time SSB4 comes out)
He could be a character without wings to glide, and he actually does have a moveset pool we could pull to make him feel different.Hey! It's good to dream
But in all seriousness, he virtually has no chance which is sad, if he were to have a moveset I have a feeling he would play more like Link or Ike, projectiles wouldn't play a factor with him, of course this is all pointless
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This is a personal problem but, I don't want a bananafided version of ICs. I think that would be even more gay. Chaingrabs+4 bananas? Oh hell nahDiddy and Dixie combo is from one of the greatest games of all time
Wolf is basically like Fox in terms of staying in, why remove him? That clone theory is about as real as pac man getting into ssb4 so don't even try that.Ice Climber sold over 1.5 million copies, more than Gyromite.
Of Brawl's roster, the least likely to stay in my opinion (from most likely to leave to least) are:
1. Lucario
2. Ike
3. Toon Link
4. Lucas
5. Wolf
6. Jigglypuff (grandfather clause or not, she's nowhere near as popular as she used to be and has a very generic moveset)
Ryu or Ken, imoHow likely do you all think that a SF character will make it in? I think it's a pretty okay chance.
Falco hate yI'd rather see Falco get the boot than Wolf. Falco just doesn't seem relevant to Star Fox as Wolf does to me, as Wolf is the archrival and such.
Doesn't Wolf also have a greater impact in the storylines of the recent Starfox games like Command than Falco too?
Falco is basically the StarFox luigi.
MY OP SENSES ARE TINGLING.I want to see a baddass character with a sword please, that's not a good guy.
Black Knight would make me ****.
Yes. This.I will never understand why people think Wolf should be cut.
Thank you for some sense.That's the only thing they have immediately in common. Specials does not a clone make. Come on now. If that's the case, Lucario, Toon Link, Ganondorf, Luigi, and Lucas are all clones as well.
Wolf/Falco are luigified.Being a clone, if they can't make him original or at least lugified him, expect him to get the boot. Not that I want him gone, but better to lose a clone then an original character.
This.Wolf IS Luigified. =\ I think everyone is confusing Wolf with Falco here...
EDIT: Bisharp is one of those characters that would be... cool, but it's not gonna happen. Like Deoxys. =P
Wtf? IF they have different effects and different looks how the hell is it a clone? Has the definition of clone changed?People pay more attention to special attacks than his regular attacks when talking about clones.
Even if his special attacks have different effects, they look almost identical
I wish the topic would change to something meaningful too but for now let me just get on my Orion status dogSon of *****, back to the same song and dance we had going on in the old thread that lasted 100 pages.
THESE CHARACTERS SHOULD BE CUT
DIS IS MAH DREAM ROSTER. WHAT YOU GUYS THINK?!
CHARACTER X IS NOT A CLONE OF CHARACTER Y
Threads now crap until the subject changes away from the roster speculation stuff thats been going on for ages in the old one None of you are going to agree and its just going to loop and loop and loop.
LOLA little bit ago, we were talking about lance characters until someone rudely interrupted it with their stupidity. If that makes you feel any better.
He sure as hell made it seem like he was an one man team for Melee with the work he put in.
Maybe but he did mention that its important to have expert players playing with noobs so that is a step in the right direction
Are we even sure he was the sole balancer of the past games?
It has 2 reps atm. Look at mario/zelda/pokemon. I know those are mainstream but there is nothing wrong with putting a game's name out there with some rep.Yes, I would love a lance character, it would be very unique. However, while I am a fan of Fire Emblem itself, I am not too into the idea of adding very many fire emblem characters into Smash.
You post so stupid yAs long as Pheonix Wright is in, I'm a happy camper
Angel Island (Sonic)Let's talk about stages!
Rhythm Heaven
WuHu Island
These are a given I think.
Actually speaking of Sonic they should have a stage with Sonic physics and it scrolls through a Sonic level. I'm imagining Air Valley from SA1.
Misunderstanding.Um you do know that the controller has SONY written on it, right? Wait am I misunderstanding the post?
Yeah I believe they would make some changes. I hope. I think. LOLHis point is that things change from the time they are revealed till the time they are released. Don't count everything we've seen about the wii-u to be final.
Though it comes out in a year, I'm pretty sure it's finalized.
GTFO.They should toss in some Full Metal Alchemist~!
This is a really good idea. I didn't consider this at all.i would just have both air dodges in the game... one doesn't put you in helpless state and the other, well you know, wavedashing, DI dodging, ledgedashing, etc
the new controller does have 4 shoulder buttons.
OP please.A special would be a good idea, but... the thought of something killing me in one hit would make me very upset..
Sakurai should really take this into note. A lot of people including me, cosmetically hack our wii for this reason.Your own music for Smash would surely raise the bar, making for enjoyable and fun experience, hech even throw some Street Fighter themes and pretend...
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It would be even better if your music could be heard by the opponent too. I'd probably be spamming anime songs with female singers that have super high-pitched voices.
WTF did I just watch. I really hope when I go to Japan in 2 years I don't have to endure that.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ie_R1H9L4eI
But in all seriousness, I'd love to throw in Street Fighter, BlazBlue, Guilty Gear and Tekken 3 music.
This is more obnoxious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-2lzA7_Cg
Yeahhh, I wasn't really feeling it either homieCowboy armadillo?
You guys are really banking on that series taking off and becoming big before SSB4, aren't you? Don't count on it. You guys are hyping up the idea way too much.
You were able to close the song? I was paralyzed in fear.Couldn't even bother finishing that song. I don't care about vegetable juice.
@Bassoonist: I understand that we're probably not going to see Jiro in the game, but that doesn't mean it isn't a cool concept.
Thank you I'm starting to see people with some sense in this thread.Oh, I know that Geno is not happening. I was making a point.
There are three Mario characters that would get in much sooner than Waluigi: Toad, Bowser Jr., and Paper Mario. Even Birdo and Daisy would get in sooner. At least they have a canon appearance or two.