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[vicgur]

Why the hell do people want stupid *** characters like her? She played a minor role in 2 Zelda games and I'm not sure how big her role in Skyward Sword was, but I'm sure it wasn't a big enough role in it to be a playable character. It's the same thing with Geno, they both are minor characters in Nintendo's history...

It's funny, because it was the biggest and the best role she had.

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But I still support having 4 Links in the game before supporting her.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

4 links?! The Zelda series already has 1 to many characters (Toon Link)

 

[Disfunkshunal]

It actually has one to few (young link) but yea 4 is over the top.

There was no edit iblis you're seeing things again

I didn't really mind the lack of backdrops in hereos but I do wish super hard mode offered something unique and more challenging.

 

[Metal Overlord]

HAI guise we dun need 4 links HOW ABOUT 4 HEGEHOGS

SANIC

SHADW

CLASSC SANIC

AMY

1... 2... 3... SEE THATS 4 HEGEHOGS

 

[RomanceDawn]

Okay so THIS is what started my crackpot theory, this quote:



So I went, what Nintendo character is material to be a playable character, who has been consistantly requested, AND DID NOT SHOW UP AT ALL, in Brawl?

Some said, Krystal, because she was "owned by Rare" (Not true), but SHE DID show up in Brawl, a few times, actually. Some said F-Zero obscure characters, but why would they be playable?

I said, GENO. We all know he has licensing issues, we saw his little Square Enix shoutout at the end of M&L: Parnters in Time.

You may say: "But SAKURAI SAID"



Well, I bolded YOU and FROM because Sakurai clearly states some NINTENDO characters could not be added, like HE looked into it, not that he was approached, ANNNNNND, we know Sakurai doesn't consider Geno a third party:



So, what requested, and hyped NINTENDO character who DIDN'T SHOW UP IN BRAWL, would have IP ISSUES ACCORDING TO SAKURAI?

Motha ****in' Geno.

I know it's from pages back but man I had no idea Geno had that cameo! Too be honest I don't think there would be much legal issues now if he's made an appearance in M&L.

You putting the information out there shows me Geno is indeed a viable option this time around. How exciting!

 

[Sage of Ice]

metal mania: i don't think that was the point. pretty sure he meant "no impa" more than "yes four links".

in fairness, i don't oppose impa.

and zelda can never have too many characters

metal overlord: you missed silver. and your namesake. SIX HEDGEHOGS. because you know what they say: the mooooore the merrier.

(curses - now that metal mania is here too, i can't shorten your name anymore.)

 

[vicgur]

I love how everytime I mention "4" and "Links" together in the same phrase, everyone start firing metaphorical rocket lauchers of words on me.

EDIT: Yes, Mr. Sage of Ice is right. I meant Impa is not a good idea.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

hai guise we dun need 4 links how about 4 hegehogs

sanic

shadw

classc sanic

amy

1... 2... 3... See thats 4 hegehogs

ya n wee ned 3 mouses pokemans

pekachew

peechew

n

richew

it maykes perfekt cents!!!

 

[Sage of Ice]

i always liked raichu better than either of its earlier forms.

 

[Baskerville]

4 Links? Hell no.
But on the other hand, there are only a select few of characters that could be included. Toon Zelda would be redundant, Ghirahim is just another oneshot villain (but his popularity might help him), bringing Young Link back would be a giant waste, Impa had minor roles in every game she appeared in especially , Vaati was a consistent villain in the 4 Sword Saga so he could maybe work out. The only solution I guess is to be not to include any new Zelda characters at all.

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Sage- Lol yeah you can just call me MO now

I would love Raichu to be in Smash

@Falchion- SKULLLLLLLLLLLL KID

Problem solved

 

[Metal Mania1321]

4 Links? Hell no.
But on the other hand, there are only a select few of characters that could be included. Toon Zelda would be redundant, Ghirahim is just another oneshot villain (but his popularity might help him), bringing Young Link back would be a giant waste, Impa had minor roles in every game she appeared in especially , Vaati was a consistent villain in the 4 Sword Saga so he could maybe work out. The only solution I guess is to be not to include any new Zelda characters at all.

No new LoZ characters would be the best bet.... The only one I would support would be Skull Kid, bu I'm aware that it won't happen.

@ Metal Overlord: Guess great metallic minds think alike.

 

[Infern Angelis]

dtj hilt abd :stupidfox: infern angelis

lol successful troll summon

 

[Deleted member]

I know it's from pages back but man I had no idea Geno had that cameo! Too be honest I don't think there would be much legal issues now if he's made an appearance in M&L.

You putting the information out there shows me Geno is indeed a viable option this time around. How exciting!

1 game and 1 LICESNSED CAMEO doesn't make him a viable option.
It's nothing more than a crackpot theory, which shortie said right away.
Especially at his part about Geno "not being a 3rd Party character in the eyes of Sakurai" thing.
As that means that Sakurai views James Bond as a legitimate choice and a Nintendo (well Rare, but still) character as well.
And why wouldn't Geno appear in the MARIO list? Didn't he debut in Super MARIO RPG, and is counted as a MARIO character? He's essentially a minor 3rd-Party Mario character, so he's not a viable choice.

 

[Baskerville]

No new LoZ characters would be the best bet.... The only one I would support would be Skull Kid, bu I'm aware that it won't happen.

@ Metal Overlord: Guess great metallic minds think alike.

Super Metal Bros.

 

[Metal Overlord]

*grabs Metal Box*

Metal Metal Mania?

 

[RomanceDawn]

1 game and 1 LICESNSED CAMEO doesn't make him a viable option.
It's nothing more than a crackpot theory, which shortie said right away.
Especially at his part about Geno "not being a 3rd Party character in the eyes of Sakurai" thing.
As that means that Sakurai views James Bond as a legitimate choice and a Nintendo (well Rare, but still) character as well.
And why wouldn't Geno appear in the MARIO list? Didn't he debut in Super MARIO RPG, and is counted as a MARIO character? He's essentially a minor 3rd-Party Mario character, so he's not a viable choice.

As long as Geno isn't tied up in legal issues then I think he is just as fair game as anyone else, if Sakurai is indeed interested in him. For years I was just under the impression that Geno was under lock and key, and since the cameo I see he is not.

Doesn't matter if he came from only 1 Mario game, it didn't stop Shiek or any of the odd balls many of us never expected. 3rd party or not, I once viewed him as 100% impossible, all i'm saying is the possibility is there.

 

[vicgur]

I will not have this discussion again.

My point is:
- Links are different characters from different eras with the same name. So having 4 of them in the same place is just a time-travel alway.
- Liking or not, Link was the only playable character in the Zelda games[not counting those that you control for a short time], making him the easiest character to make and add to the roster.
- Although Link and Toon Link would play similarly, like in Brawl[but I'd like to see some Spirit Tracks stuff for Toon Link...], Masked Link and Wolf Link/Midna would be completely different[they wouldn't even LOOK LIKE the "original" Link].
- It's a matter of opinion. I, FOR ONE, think it's better having one more Link in the roster than characters like Tingle, Toad and ****in' Duck Hunt Dog.

 

[Oasis_S]

Why do you hate variety.

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Though I would love to have Midna & Wolf Link. But it won't happen.

 

[Metal Overlord]

That's the thing, though, Vic, can't it be argued that just two Links are sufficient enough to represent every Link as a whole?

 

[Mypantisgone]

metal mania: i don't think that was the point. pretty sure he meant "no impa" more than "yes four links".

in fairness, i don't oppose impa.

and zelda can never have too many characters

metal overlord: you missed silver. and your namesake. SIX HEDGEHOGS. because you know what they say: the mooooore the merrier.

(curses - now that metal mania is here too, i can't shorten your name anymore.)

NOOOOOOOOOOO

my location...was so proud...

 

[Lukingordex]

I will not have this discussion again.

My point is:
- Links are different characters from different eras with the same name. So having 4 of them in the same place is just a time-travel alway.
- Liking or not, Link was the only playable character in the Zelda games[not counting those that you control for a short time], making him the easiest character to make and add to the roster.
- Although Link and Toon Link would play similarly, like in Brawl[but I'd like to see some Spirit Tracks stuff for Toon Link...], Masked Link and Wolf Link/Midna would be completely different[they wouldn't even LOOK LIKE the "original" Link].
- It's a matter of opinion. I, FOR ONE, think it's better having one more Link in the roster than characters like Tingle, Toad and ****in' Duck Hunt Dog.

Vicgur,they will NEVER put 4 Links on the game,thats not matter if they are different characters from different eras.

I support Toad a lot more than those Links.

Anyway,I really love your avatar.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

*grabs Metal Box*

Metal Metal Mania?

I always new I had a twin brother out there...somewhere....

 

[BirthNote]

That's the thing, though, Vic, can't it be argued that just two Links are sufficient enough to represent every Link as a whole?

Thank you.

EDIT:

Depends on how you want them to be represented. 2 Links might be enough to show something, but they need something more to show enough.

How about more Ganons and Zeldas? Or different characters?

 

[vicgur]

That's the thing, though, Vic, can't it be argued that just two Links are sufficient enough to represent every Link as a whole?

Depends on how you want them to be represented. 2 Links might be enough to show something, but they need something more to show enough.

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Dude, I'm a poet.

Vicgur,they will NEVER put 4 Links on the game,thats not matter if they are different characters from different eras.
I support Toad a lot more than those Links.

Anyway,I really love your avatar.

Never say never, man. Remember when people said "A non-Nintendo character? Pff, that's NEVER gonna happen!"?
Toad is the most generic character people support. More generic than him/them, just the Miis, but they're a different case.

And thanks! I'm might not be an artist, but that doesn't mean I can't be proud of the stuff I draw.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

Spoiler

Dude, I'm a poet.

Now do it in Iambic Pentameter and I'll be impressed!

 

[yani]

As long as Geno isn't tied up in legal issues then I think he is just as fair game as anyone else, if Sakurai is indeed interested in him. For years I was just under the impression that Geno was under lock and key, and since the cameo I see he is not.

Doesn't matter if he came from only 1 Mario game, it didn't stop Shiek or any of the odd balls many of us never expected. 3rd party or not, I once viewed him as 100% impossible, all i'm saying is the possibility is there.

It just sucks that Geno is in an awkward position. Square Enix wouldn't want Geno to represent their company, you know?

 

[vicgur]

Now do it in Iambic Pentameter and I'll be impressed!

Yeah, I take back what I said. I'm not THAT good.

 

[Lukingordex]

Never say never, man. Remember when people said "A non-Nintendo character? Pff, that's NEVER gonna happen!"?
Toad is the most generic character people support. More generic than him/them, just the Miis, but they're a different case.

And thanks! I'm might not be an artist, but that doesn't mean I can't be proud of the stuff I draw.

Don´t you said you will not have this discussion again?

Anyway I support Miis more than any another character.

Also,if Crash Bandicoot got playable at SSB4,I will agree with this phrase:
¨Never say never¨

 

[vicgur]

Don´t you said you will not have this discussion again?

Yeah, I do hate myself right now.

EDIT:

How about more Ganons and Zeldas? Or different characters?

The thing with Link is that he's, as I said, the only one who is always playable. A Toon Ganon, with those 2 swords, would be AWESOME, but yeah...
Zelda had a minor playable role in Spirit Tracks [if you say the word "CD-i", I'll ****in' stab your leg], but it's a portable spin-off, which they never cared about.

And there isn't a single different character, supported by someone, that had more than ONE major role in any game.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Vaati playable, but he, or any Minish Cap character is not even mentioned in Brawl... [maybe a sticker or two, but I'm not so sure]

 

[Metal Overlord]

@Metal- So did I

@vicgur- CD-i

 

[BirthNote]

Also,if Crash Bandicoot got playable at SSB4,I will agree with this phrase:
¨Never say never¨

YES, we could finally have a FFA between him, Mario and Sonic. It would e EPIC.

 

[LC-DDM]

I just had an thought... Wouldn't it be interesting if the Trophy Stand item in Brawl is a regular item in multiplayer matches? This item would only appear if the Vs. matches have three or four fighters out. If your character throws this Trophy Stand at one of your opponents, that opponent becomes an Assist Trophy... But to activate that Assist Trophy, your character or the other opponents must pick it up. When activated, that opponent appears and does something that isn't part of their moveset.

For example, Luigi as an Assist Trophy would pull out the Poltergust 3000 from Luigi's Mansion and shoot fire, ice, or water. Bowser as an Assist Trophy would ride on the Koopa Clown Car and drop big steel balls just like in Super Mario World. Ganondorf as an Assist Trophy would troll us by floating around and using magic like in Ocarina of Time. Pikachu as an Assist Trophy would use Surf like in Pokemon Yellow.

Actually... what if... and this is a big if... you had the Trophy Stands as items in MP matches, yeah, like you said, BUT, if you throw it against an AT you gain that AT as an actual playable character?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Link and Toon Link are the only Links that I have in mind.

 

[Metal Mania1321]

Yeah, I take back what I said. I'm not THAT good.

Your alright, Vic.


So, to end this Zelda discussion, what character's do you guys think are most likely going to be in SSB4?

For me, I think Palutena and Ray MK III are pretty likely.

 

[Johnknight1]

I wake up to this. God, Brawl is pressured so much... I seriously hope they keep Brawl standards, but they fix some errors.

I can't play Melee anymore. That's what Brawl does to a person.

Wow, Brawl sounds like the Star Wars prequels to some people based on what you're telling me. To some people, the prequel trilogy ruined the original trilogy. For me, it just made me like the original trilogy all the more. The same thing goes with (competitive) Brawl. It just makes me love (competitive) Smash 64 and Melee more.

Although I think comparing the Brawl to the Star Wars prequel trilogy is a little unfair beyond this simple comparison. Brawl is an enjoyable game and has competitive depth. The Star Wars prequel trilogy has no depth at anything ever, and is nothing short of an abomination.

It really isn't that hard to adapt between both games. But then again I'm talking about a community of a 10 year old game mostly consisting of a bunch of elitist pricks...

You mean Street Fighter=???

Also, the Melee competitive community is pretty cool, along with the whole Smash Bros. community. Just because we hate on Brawl doesn't mean we hate on Brawl players. There is a huge difference between the two.

 

[LC-DDM]

Also, the Melee competitive community is pretty cool, along with the whole Smash Bros. community. Just because we hate on Brawl doesn't mean we hate on Brawl players. There is a huge difference between the two.

*cough cough items*

And now we await the ****storm.

 

[Mypantisgone]

@Metal- So did I

@vicgur- CD-i

Duuuuude,look at your legs!

I want miis because i want me/custom chars playable,the problem is that you're not gonna do a Kratos mii fighting with a golf club or what,but miis are important to nintendo,did you know that they were worked on since the NES?(funny,the NES one was more complete)

 

[Lukingordex]

YES, we could finally have a FFA between him, Mario and Sonic. It would e EPIC.

Don´t forget Rayman on this

 

[lordvaati]

something I realized: if this character got in, would they be a Nintendo character(like how Banjo is Microsoft?)