New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

About possible revamps, what if Yoshi could have a trail of eggs follow him like in the days of old? With only 6 projectiles at a time, the different colored eggs could produce different affects when they hit an opponent. I'd like to see eggs that ricochet, explode, or even big fat eggs that make the screen shake.

Yoshi does need to have his Egg Toss changed into a side special. I did, at one point, mention about Yoshi throwing eggs of different colors, and each one has its own attack power and effects.

In terms of the up special, Yoshi should really get hold of an actual third jump move. Maybe for one idea, Yoshi could use one of his eggs as a stepping stone, which would give him a long jump. This would render Yoshi semi-helpless, as he'd be limited to using his standard attacks until he hits the ground. The egg can still damage opponents, as it'll fall down after Yoshi performs his jump.

Good idea. Mariokart 64 had a different starting screen if you beat the game on a certain mode. Did you also have the idea of masks breaking when certain characters received immense damage? Keep posting your ideas.

I didn't say anything about masks and helmets breaking, but more about them receiving scars, such as Meta Knight's unused scarred mask texture.

 

[Mypantisgone]

For one thing, being able to have more than one Assist Trophy present would be nice. Another feature should be an Assist Trophy switch, where you can choose which characters will pop out.

On a different subject, I recently had a thought, regarding the opening cinema. What if there were two variations of it!? The first one would be the default, while the other one would be used when all the characters are unlocked.

In brawl chars you unlocked were added,but you mean a whole different intro?

 

[Metal Overlord]

Make Marth a starter

 

[Bowserlick]

Alright, I am going to predict the first-to-be-revealed newcomers based on the model used on Brawl's teaser. Four Nintendo characters and a Guest.

In the last trailer, we received a Sakurai creation (Metaknight), a revived NES character (Pit), a Guest character (Snake), a highly requested character (Wario), and another representative for the Metroid series (Zamus).

I am going to predict a Sakurai creation (

Spoiler

Hades

), a revived NES character (Takamaru), a guest character (Megaman), a popular request (Dixie), and a Metroid representative (Ridley).

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

In brawl chars you unlocked were added,but you mean a whole different intro?

What I mean is that the alternate opening cinema would add all the hidden characters into the intro, so it would be completely different from the default opening cinema; the default one would only show the starters.

 

[Aaven]

Make Marth a starter

^ I agree with this, I don't understand why he is always an unlockable in Smash, by now he should be a starter.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

^ I agree with this, I don't understand why he is always an unlockable in Smash, by now he should be a starter.

Considering that his game was remade for all the regions, it would only seem fitting if that did happen.

 

[Mypantisgone]

Okay like brawl,but not only the beginning of the intro!
I don't think scars,they got rejected because it was too violent they said!but things like chars get a bad haircut,maybe losing clothes(but not too much,if you know what i mean...but seriously,not too much,don't wanna see everyone's underpants...well in this case,sonic,kirby,and such is fine,obviously)
And big stages,big stages everywhere!
AND THEY SHOULD STOP SHOWING UNLOCKABLES IN THE INTRO,DAMN!!!

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Bowserlick: I don't think this pattern would occur in every Smash-reveal trailer...

Tingle should be unlockable material. Same for Lip.

I think she should be this new R.O.B/Mr.Game & Watch in a sense. " Lip's Stick's OWNAH!!!"


Like, a character none knows about and complain she took their fave character's slot.

Miis would be the "Historically Signifant To Nintendo"-stuff, anyway.

 

[Opossum]

Hmmm. Well, I'm guessing they'll do the whole two highly requested + Female + Retro + Guest, soooo...

King K. Rool, Little Mac, Palutena, Muddy Mole, Mega Man.

I see Ridley, Miis, Goroh, Mewtwo, and a Mario newcomer as unlockables, personally.

 

[Oasis_S]

Krom will be a starter if he's in. Roy will definitely be an unlockable if he's in. Marth and Ike are the two questionable ones.

If it's only Krom, Marth, and Ike, then I think the latter two would become unlockable. Marth may be a starter, but Ike would definitely be unlockable.

If it's Marth, Krom, Roy, and Ike, then again the latter two would definitely be unlockable.

I figure as long as Roy's in, then Marth would be a starter.


Tingle would totally be a starter.

 

[Starphoenix]

STAR. Ghirahim. Starter. You agree?

Doubt it, I see him more as an unlockable character.

 

[Oasis_S]

Doubt it, I see him more as an unlockable character.

But that would be dumb. >:

 

[Starphoenix]

Alright, I am going to predict the first-to-be-revealed newcomers based on the model used on Brawl's teaser. Four Nintendo characters and a Guest.

In the last trailer, we received a Sakurai creation (Metaknight), a revived NES character (Pit), a Guest character (Snake), a highly requested character (Wario), and another representative for the Metroid series (Zamus).

I am going to predict a Sakurai creation (

Spoiler

Hades

), a revived NES character (Takamaru), a guest character (Megaman), a popular request (Dixie), and a Metroid representative (Ridley).

Highly requested antagonist / Female protagonist / Retro / Random popular
That is about the only pattern that exists from Melee to Brawl.

I would not bank on a guest character. One trailer hardly sets a precedent to assume we will have another guest character in the other.

 

[Bowserlick]

Bowserlick: I don't think this pattern would occur in every Smash-reveal trailer...

Tingle should be unlockable material. Same for Lip.

I think she should be this new R.O.B/Mr.Game & Watch in a sense. " Lip's Stick's OWNAH!!!"


Like, a character none knows about and complain she took their fave character's slot.

Miis would be the "Historically Signifant To Nintendo"-stuff, anyway.

Oh, I also think the pattern is highly unlikely to repeat. But this roster is going to be very difficult to predict. So the pattern was my only way of allowing myself to guess.

 

[Opossum]

I think that if they keep them, Sonic and Snake will also be shown in the trailer.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Artwork for SSB4 MUST. BE. MADE. LIKE. UPRISING'S.

Just... think. Mario in awesome anime style, same for Skyloft Link.

 

[Pieman0920]

Ghirahim (not that he'll be in) totally seems like a locked character. Little Mac and Palutena seem like sure starters. Most other characters I'd be inclined to think of as locked...I guess Dixie would be a starter though.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Spoiler

^^^^^ That should be Marth's alt

 

[Baskerville]

If Sonic & Snake don't make it in, I'm gonna enjoy the ****storm from fans EVERYWHERE!

 

[Starphoenix]

I think that if they keep them, Sonic and Snake will also be shown in the trailer.

To this I agree, but to say a guest character is a "lock" is quite a different thing altogether.

If Sonic the Hedgehog and Solid Snake are not addressed by Sakurai during the time the next trailer is out, I am willing to guess that they probably won't be back. Trust me when I say that Sakurai is going to want to answer that question right away. Otherwise that is all he is going to hear. It is possible we may get a "we will see" sort of quote, but he is going to have to give some general kind of idea if other parties can, or want, be a part of the process.

 

[Big-Cat]

Spoiler

^^^^^ That should be Marth's alt

Marth's Disk-Locked-Content alt.
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[~ Valkyrie ~]

If Ghirahim has chances... then so will Vaati.

Every. Time.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

AND THEY SHOULD STOP SHOWING UNLOCKABLES IN THE INTRO,DAMN!!!

That's pretty much why I had the two opening cinemas thought.

 

[Starphoenix]

Ghirahim (not that he'll be in) totally seems like a locked character. Little Mac and Palutena seem like sure starters. Most other characters I'd be inclined to think of as locked...I guess Dixie would be a starter though.

New series tend to be available from the start, for the most part. I think that would probably remain the same with Brawl. You never know with trends though.

Protip: "Trend" is a much better word than "pattern". [Not referring to you Pie]

 

[Oasis_S]

Protip: "Trend" is a much better word than "pattern".

Are you trying to become a patternsetter.

Also, newcomers tend to be starters.

 

[Starphoenix]

Are you trying to become a patternsetter.

Also, newcomers tend to be starters.

No, I just think the word "pattern" should be reserved for when there are more instances of similarities occurring repeatedly.

Plus, trend is a more accurate definition than pattern.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Artwork for SSB4 MUST. BE. MADE. LIKE. UPRISING'S.

Just... think. Mario in awesome anime style, same for Skyloft Link.

This does make me think about those anime styled drawings of Peach, Daisy, and Rosalina; you can find them at DeviantART.

Anyway, that could be a neat new twist, but I also like the idea of seeing artwork that's similar to Brawl's.

Spoiler

^^^^^ That should be Marth's alt

Something tells me that that's probably what Marth may end up wearing, by default.

 

[Oasis_S]

Oh, Dixie and Medusa would be LOCKS for unlockable status, btw.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

M&SGuy: Heehee, just throwing it out, I like Paper Mario's Peach more than Sigurd Hosenfield's Peach. All Hosenfield's fans definitely are like Francis from Super Paper Mario, neeeerrrrr~

Would

Spoiler

Viridi

be playable clone if Palutena made it? You know, like Toon Link-style?

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

I really don't think that would be the combination they would choose.

Snivy is much more popular than Oshawott worldwide, so at the very least, I'd make it Snivy and Dewott instead.

I was following the formula that Brawl's Pokemon Trainer used; stage 1 Water; stage 2 Grass; stage 3 Fire. Oshawott is a stage 1 Water-type, while Servine is a stage 2 Grass-type.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Mewtwo- Unlockable
5th gen rep- Starter

Any objections?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

DK and Diddy, also Space Trio/Furries in Uprising Art-style would be something interesting to look at.

 

[Oasis_S]

Mewtwo- Unlockable
5th gen rep- Starter

Any objections?

Nope. Certain that's how it'll go.

 

[Deleted member]

Bowser Jr. would likely be unlockable. Mario's only current unlockable is Luigi.
If Waddle Dee were to make it, he should be unlockable for the lulz.

Any Assist Trophy that was a starter should be a starting newcomer if playable this time.
Likewise, any locked AT should be a locked newcomer.

Ridley? Unlockable. For a similar reason as Ganondorf; it feels natural.

@Mario and Sonic: The formula doesn't need to be followed though, especially when you realize why the Pokemon were chosen the way they were; popularity. Charizard easily trumped Venasaur and Blastoise, so he was a lock. So it was a fight between Squirtle and Bulbasaur as Ivysaur and Wartortle were equally forgettable. Squirtle has been typically more popular than Bulbasaur, so that's why Squirtle was chosen.

With the Unova starters, Snivy is the dominant one of the Basic forms by far. Samurott is more popular than Emboar in Japan, however, Emboar is much easier to envision in a Smash environment. So by ease of design, Emboar would get in over Samurott. Which leaves Dewott as the "default".

 

[Starphoenix]

Mewtwo- Unlockable
5th gen rep- Starter

Any objections?

How would that make any sense when every newer generation Pokémon has been unlockable so far? If anything make Lucario and Jigglypuff a starter and hide Mewtwo, Genesect and Pokémon Trainer.

 

[Bowserlick]

If pokemon trainer had the starters from the last generation, I would predict: Snivy, Pignite, and Samurott.

 

[Deleted member]

Why two final forms and a Basic, Bowserlick?

Or did you mean Pignite?

EDIT: I also say that anyone who has been a starter should stay a starter. This includes Ness and Captain Falcon.

Locked characters can become starters, as some should, like Marth.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

From requests on how Assist Trophies should be improved. I've seen that many just wish to get more Assist Trophies and they should be more plentiful. Also them being no more being restricted to appear one at time only, like Pokemon.

 

[Bowserlick]

Why two final forms and a Basic, Bowserlick?

Or did you mean Pignite?

EDIT: I also say that anyone who has been a starter should stay a starter. This includes Ness and Captain Falcon.

Locked characters can become starters, as some should, like Marth.

Thanks for the correction. I agree that Marth should be a starter. He is now Smash's figurehead for Fire Emblem.