New Smash Bros for WiiU

[Sephirothxxx]

Making it too fast might be annoying though,

Also do you guys think the next smash could support 6 players at once, 3v3's but limited to certain stages

Or 1v1v1v1v1v1's?

Also I love how Falcon and Snake both look at ZSS during the last part of her "dance" <. <

6 players = awesome

ZSS = weird sig.

 

[Oasis_S]

What does Payasofobia think of this:

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[Sephirothxxx]

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That's so awesome.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Think about it, we have enough characters. if we get like 60+

And ALSOO!!!

Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon


OR 6 YOU'RE TOO SLOOWWS

 

[Sephirothxxx]

Think about it, we have enough characters. if we get like 60+

And ALSOO!!!

Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon


OR 6 YOU'RE TOO SLOOWWS

Ugh that would be annoying if it was a taunt fight. But it would be one heck of a battle.

 

[payasofobia]

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Exactly what I am talking about. That's a very nice concept.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

ikr, I honestly would love to see 3v3's or 1v1v1v1v1v1's in next smash...

It'd really be neat to see what 3v3 combo's people can think of.

Healing teams would be really good but there could be a way to nerf it.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

6 player for teh win. And mach rider for smash 4.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Seph, if you get a Wii U and you love Mother 3 as much as I do and main a Mother character somewhat, you're on my team of 3 for healing combo's and errything.

 

[Big-Cat]

Think about it, we have enough characters. if we get like 60+

And ALSOO!!!

Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon vs. Ganon


OR 6 YOU'RE TOO SLOOWWS

Whoa, don't get carried away. While it is possible to toss in over 60 characters in the game as each character was roughly 15 MB in Brawl. However, you might as well be tossing balance out of the window.

And Ganondorf should have a godlike wavedash, covering a lot of space very quickly like Makoto in Street Fighter where she has the slowest walk speed in the game, but the best dash in the game.

 

[Oasis_S]

Payasofobia is WAY BETTER than those other two.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I like the way you think, Paya

Strict criteria my ***

"DURRR I DUNNO WHY YOU WANT MACH RIDER SO BAD, HE'S NOT RELEVANT AND-"

No. **** dat. If I want to have futuristic motorcycle-riding BAMFs in my Smash game, then goddamn it, let me do just that

 

[payasofobia]

Whoa, don't get carried away. While it is possible to toss in over 60 characters in the game as each character was roughly 15 MB in Brawl. However, you might as well be tossing balance out of the window.

And Ganondorf should have a godlike wavedash, covering a lot of space very quickly like Makoto in Street Fighter where she has the slowest walk speed in the game, but the best dash in the game.

Not if they hire multiple teams with actual experience in character balance to balance each character, instead of just hoping Sakurai does that all by himself. That was a big surprise for me.

Sakurai. In charge of balance. Alone.

He seems to have learnt his lesson, though.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

Seph, if you get a Wii U and you love Mother 3 as much as I do and main a Mother character somewhat, you're on my team of 3 for healing combo's and errything.

Awesome. Of course I'll have to work on my Ness gameplay.

 

[Big-Cat]

Not if they hire multiple teams with actual experience in character balance to balance each character, instead of just hoping Sakurai does that all by himself. That was a big surprise for me.

Sakurai. In charge of balance. Alone.

He seemed to have learnt his lesson, though.

Still, 60 characters is no laughing matter. With Street Fighter X Tekken having 55 characters, I'm rather curious how the balance in that game will turn out.

And balance is one of the reasons why I want Capcom and Sega to help with the upcoming Smash. They have at least one big name fighter each under their name so that's already a hefty resume.

 

[Oasis_S]

Since Sakurai has an interest in futuristic shooter junk, maybe he really would have an interest in Mach Rider... :I

 

[Sephirothxxx]

@oasis I hope so. MAch rider would be awesome.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

I'm sure his team can balance it fairly well.

There will be no perfect balance but I'm almost certain with 60 characters there would at least be 10 broken that can match eachother well making it so not just 1 wins all the tourny's.

Sakurai not working alone this time makes a huge difference.

I'm sure 6 players is very possible.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Hory sheeit Sephiroth

I swear not even 4 days ago you had like 130-somethin' posts

Now you got like 340 posts?

I know I post a lot, too, but goddamn

 

[Big-Cat]

How do you know his team can balance it well? If it's the same group from before, that had no prior experience on working on fighting games, I'd be more worried than confident.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

a couple days ago I had like 70 posts

EDIT: I'm sure they can balance it

Also, he wanted to make 50-60 characters anyways from what I know, 6 players and 3v3's would be fun as well.

I'm sure they can do something.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

Hory sheeit Sephiroth

I swear not even 4 days ago you had like 130-somethin' posts

Now you got like 340 posts?

I know I post a lot, too, but goddamn

Ha ha it's what I do.

4 days ago I had like 50 posts. I just decided I would get more into the community. So I found a thread that was consistently active.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

^ That's exactly what I did, the Lucas boards are dead

 

[Oasis_S]

Would balancing other fighting games help that much when it comes to balancing Smash? His team from last time, which didn't do any balancing, disbanded anyhow.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

^ That's exactly what I did, the Lucas boards are dead

Ha ha and nobody posts in the Roy boards either. This thread I can post and post and post.

(but honestly one of my intentions in doing this is to get my post count up. No particular reason, I just find getting the count up to be a game.)

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

I find it fun to get my count up, but I also find it fun to just talk about this subject and meet new people..

Hopefully Sakurai's team helps him with balance this time instead of not throwing in their input, poor Sakurai.

Next Smash will have counters for top tier I'm sure.

 

[payasofobia]

How do you know his team can balance it well? If it's the same group from before, that had no prior experience on working on fighting games, I'd be more worried than confident.

It's not the team who balanced it, if interviews are to go by. It was Sakurai himself who came up with all the percentages and weights and everything. As of the latest interview, Sakurai admitted that balance is too difficult for him to do alone, so he is asking actual experts now to help him balance some characters. So, at least, there should be a slight improvement or, at worst, the same mediocre balance but with much more characters.

I am betting on the latter.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

I'm betting there will be like 10 characters that will be the best as I said, but they all are good against eachother and there is no truly perfect character with no bad matchups (Metaknight)

also do you mind linking me to his last interview?

 

[Baskerville]

I hope that Smash 4 has the amount of balance KOF XIII has.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

I hope smash 4 doesnt suck.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

How good was the balance? Do explain plz

AND LOL I think we all hope it won't suck.

 

[Sephirothxxx]

How good was the balance? Do explain plz

Very good.

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

How good is "very good" ;_;

THE NEXT SMASH would be amazing without infinite grabs, just imagine it...

 

[Baskerville]

Every character in that game is good, over half of the cast are played in tournaments.

 

[payasofobia]

I'm betting there will be like 10 characters that will be the best as I said, but they all are good against eachother and there is no truly perfect character with no bad matchups (Metaknight)

also do you mind linking me to his last interview?

It's in this thread. In the OP.

 

[Metal Overlord]

Well, I'm glad y'all got a lil place to chill at, nah mean?

60 something characters is no cakewalk to balance though

In fact, I don't even recall of any fighting games that had that big of a roster (DBZ games don't count trolololo)

 

[Sephirothxxx]

@syrup Very good is very good.


You love your chaingrab discussion don't you?

@overlord This thread is teh chill spot. All of the other random discussion threads are far less active and very mono-subjected.

And ha ha DBZ budokai tenkaichi 3 and on have HUGE ROSTERS!

 

[Big-Cat]

Would balancing other fighting games help that much when it comes to balancing Smash? His team from last time, which didn't do any balancing, disbanded anyhow.

As different as Smash is from other fighters, a lot of the core concepts such as footsies have remained intact. That, and they could at least help identify some blatant holes (i.e. infinites).

 

[BlueberrySyrup]

Bbl going out to eat, also with the Wii U 60 characters is possible though.

A new System a new generation of gaming~

Even DLC for up to 70 characters is doable, it just takes time.

Also i despise chain grabs, but infinites are even worse so yeah :\

Bbl going out to eat and taking my dogs for a walk.

EDIT: Wii U infinites can be patched probably?

Opinions please /discussion

 

[Metal Overlord]

Bring me something back