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I like mario party 2 for some reason it not a bad game.Mario Party 4 was by far my favorite of that series.
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I like mario party 2 for some reason it not a bad game.Mario Party 4 was by far my favorite of that series.
Last game with Donkey Kong playable, plus it had a basketball mini-game![]()
Brawl Mario's outfit is more detailed, but it does seem amusing how Melee Mario's mouth is often covered by his own mustache.Am I the only who prefers Mario's Melee design to almost every other design? Maybe it's just nostalgia.
2012 poll is UP!
I'll have the results of 2011 up in a little bit.
Tell me if you see anyone missing, or anything spelled weird.
King Hippo would've indeed got my vote if he was on the poll. He just looks interesting to have. But I don't think we'll get him before Little Mac at all.I think it needs King Hippo. Theres a fairly decent chance that Sakurai will put him instead of Little Mac for popularity reasons. I mean, even wikipedia has an article for King Hippo himself while Little Mac is only included on the other Punch Out characters page. Captain N and his memorable weakpoint have made him a cultural icon, something that Little Mac just isn't. Or just add him in the case that Sakurai adds both of them. It wouldn't be the first time as Marth and Roy were both added in Melee.
Think of it as a Young Link -> Toon Link replacement. Impa has all the potential of having different B moves from Sheik. Yet their overall playstyle would be mostly the same. Or not? Surely they could revamp her a bit while they're at it, giving her a new move or two (apart from specials). Also if they're seperate from each other, they could balance Zelda and Impa instead of Zelda/Sheik being such extreme opposites.I don't think there's much to say. I'd love for Impa to be in there, but I can't see it happening realistically at all. Replacing the other half of Zelda herself for what'll most likely be a clone seems silly. Not even Brawl went that far at all.
Not a good example as Toon Link was barely different from Link/Young Link as is. In fact, that's what I want to avoid. You say she won't be a remake of Sheik, but history says otherwise. Likewise, Sheik is important in Smash. Not the Zelda series, but is a two-time veteran. Them leaving is silly. If Impa could be added without replacing Sheik, sure.Think of it as a Young Link -> Toon Link replacement. Impa has all the potential of having different B moves from Sheik. Yet their overall playstyle would be mostly the same. Or not? Surely they could revamp her a bit while they're at it, giving her a new move or two (apart from specials). Also if they're seperate from each other, they could balance Zelda and Impa instead of Zelda/Sheik being such extreme opposites.
I'd rather have Ghirahaim, as he's a character that won't have a chance of being a clone.It's imo the most plausible choice for a rep from Skyward Sword, which might be getting overlooked by Zelda Wii U by that time.
Ganondorf is pretty dark too. Also, relevancy can kiss my ***. It's a bad idea outside of new series. I'm more interested in the character if they're cool, not if they're new. I find it a meh reason at best, and does not reflect a character's popularity. If that were the case, Tingle would be playable in Brawl, since his GBA games were released fairly close to it.And she's a black chick. Or at least the closest Nintendo will go regarding that.Though her booty is lacking
Relevancy is also nice.
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Wario's not good enough?Is it weird that I sort of want Dr. Mario back now?
i fell you man. Am not going to apex am just asking whos going so yeah.I wish I was going to apex. Sadly Australia won't let me, unless I feel like flying over, which i might do when I get some money. :-P
I'd rather have Geno over Toad, really.Haha no I love the addition of Wario, and wouldn't mind Doc being a costume either, but aside from Toad (& Geno to the extent), none of the other possible candidates appeal to me
Waluigi got in as an AT, which means he could become playable next time around. Just like Goroh or Tingle, even Lyn, all have fair chances. Jr. is best with his Shadow Mario transformation, which means he can perform 2 movesets as is. Paper Mario would still be unique, since he shares little with regular Mario anyway.Waluigi could be unique, but unless he appears in a WarioWare/Land game I don't see him getting in under the "Mario" Franchise
Jr. is just meh to me, he could be unique too though.
Not a fan of Paper Mario anymore for some reason. I'm picky![]()
He already is notable in gameplay thanks to Peach. After how he was double shoehorned into New Super Mario Bros. Wii, my taste for him dropped badly. Not worth it to me anymore. There's atleast a few more unique characters that should be in first, anyway.I can see Toad being added to bring Mario back to 5 and than throw in Doc just to bump it to 6 so it doesn't seem lacking. Just my two cents though
It'll probably be a Nintencat instead.I seriously wonder about the possibility of getting Sakurai's cat as a trophy or AT. All he tweets about is his kitty :3
nice roster its all rightLook who will be advancing to the Top 20 in Top Roster Candidates v2.
Look forward to a new thread tomorrow.
@Shortiecanbrawl: Saw it and I have plenty of suggestions. I'll post them at the next possible opportunity (which is within minutes).
choooooooooooosome suggestions for shortiecanbrawl's 2012 poll:
super mario bros:
- pauline (there seems to be a few people who really want pauline in smash)
- the koopalings (very important to past mario games and i have recalled a few people wanting them in smash)
they both are waste of space characters, something the poll already has.
yoshi:
- baby mario & baby luigi (was in your last poll)
nope. You want baby mario, and baby luigi, then pick them both. No duos this time around. I'm looking at specific characters. Zelda is seperate from sheik, and zs is seperate from samus
the legend of zelda:
- demise (for all of the idiots who thinks that ganondorf needs to be replaced by him)
- majora's mask link (people don't like young link in melee, but are more incline to support it if majora's mask link is suggested instead)
- toon sheik (was in the forbidden seven)
i'll add demise, and if you want young link, pick young link. Toon sheik... I'm not going to add.
kirby:
- bandanna dee should be waddle/bandanna dee
- knuckle joe (was an assist trophy in brawl and a few people like me want to see him in smash 4)
- dark matter (i recall ironchef_kirby being big fan of it)
i'll add kuckle joe, and the bandana thing.
pokemon:
- keldeo (i don't like it, but it is likely the next event pokemon revealed)
- meloetta (more popular then keldeo)
- heracross (popular 2nd gen suggestion during pre-melee era)
pokemon is already too large, plus almost no one asks for these three.
fire emblem:
- fix spelling on ephiraim
- celice (main character of fe4)
- liz (more people like her over chrome at the moment)
- hector (was popular until crushed by the lyn fan base)
- elliwood (father of roy)
- oguma (beat out every other fe character in the melee poll aside from marth)
i'll add celice, and i'll add elliwood. I think liz and hector are already on the poll. Oguma can go there too i guess.
smaller franchise:
- dr. Write should be dr. Wright)
- kos-mos (part of the xenosaga franchise)
- chibi-robo (should definitely be in the poll)
- kalas (deuxhero loves this guy and i recall a few supporters as well)
- isa jo (main protagonist of sin & punishment: Star successor)
- sheriff (star of the first video game created by nintendo)
- diskun (recalled a few people supporting him)
- mach rider (a few people supported him and i remember we had a big discussion about a fake rumor about him)
- sami (again, because deuxhero loves her)
this poll isn't for a few people who like certain characters, just so everyone knows. I'll add chibi robo, isa, mach rider, and diskun. I think kos-mos is third party material.
third-party:
- by dragon quest, also put inside bracket "hero" after slime
- a place for sonic characters (those are mentioned for smash on a semi-frequent basis)
- a place for metal gear solid characters (less often, but a few mention every now and then)
- phoenix wright (i have seen a handful of people proclaim support)
- crono (a handful of people want him in smash)
- travis touchdown (expect him to be the next geno)
i will think of more later.
no pheonix, i'll add travis for ****s and giggles, crono will be added, and i don't care about tails or other mg characters, no one else should. I'll do the hero thing as well.
I didn't make it by myself, I had a lot of input from a lot of people. Actually, back in early 2010, the meat of this list was compiled by me and ArcadeNik, and I've been perfecting it since then. Like cutting out the "Teams" for the most part. I think Pluse & Minun, and Kat & Ana are the only exceptions. As well as cutting out that bull comprehensive trainer stuff.Shortie, I'm surprised. You remembered to include Muddy Mole, but I think Oasis may be a bit Steamed and Sad that you forgot Mach Rider, but included the Excited Biker...
Other than that, the list looks exhaustive and comprehensive.
It's funny, because that's not true, and he's also not even THAT ancient. He is only ONE YEAR older than Mr. Game & Watch. Who is only one year older than Mario and Donkey Kong.Sheriff (star of the first video game created by Nintendo)
**** yeah K. Rool! Thank god even the ignorant punk *** masses know he deserves to be in Smash4. Hopefully he'll dominate Sakurai's poll and that'll convince him!The final results of 2011, with a little less than 800 votes, all coming from NSIDER2, and SWF users!
Found it :3Nice to see Ness will still be the unlockable.
Alrighty, i suppose i could have a go at this roster, but i really think most anyone still has a shot, so i'll put in a few that may or may not have a chance in brackets, with a reason as to why:
Mario Universe:
Mario
Luigi
Peach
Bowser
(Toad: He may be one of the last big mario reps to get in, plus he has huge support and would have a unique moveset. Sometimes the younger generation brings him down, but he still has a good go at it IMO. Bowser Jr. may or may not be a clone with only a paintbrush as his differentiating weapon, and Paper Mario would be a mario spinoff)
Mario Spinoffs:
Yoshi
Wario
(Waluigi: I'm not too sure about this one. It sometimes seems as though he has support, other times it seems as though everyone hates him. While Sakurai said himself wario was the only character to get barely any support in brawl, and another rep from that area might be detrimental, he may put it in as a chance to revive support for Wario and Waluigi. Still, chances aren't particularly looking good.)
Donkey Kong:
D.K.
Diddy Kong
K. Rool (Cranky can be an AT)
(Dixie Kong: She may or may not have a shot depending on K. Rool. Be aware that D.K. does need a villain, and as much as I would like Dixie to get in I feel the only way both of them could get in was if Dixie tag teamed with Diddy. I dunno.....)
LoZ:
Link
Zelda
Ganondorf (WITH HIS SWORD)
Toon Link (while there's a miniscule chance of Young Link returning, i think Toon Link got the better support)
(Ghirahim: As a new upcoming villain, he may be the new thing for LoZ. His problem is that he only has one game and he has ganondorf and vaati as contenders as a villain)
Metroid:
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
(Ridley: Has a fair amount of support, his only problem is probably size + flight, but things like that have been changed around before, in the case of Bowser and Olimar, so i still see him as a contender)
Kirby:
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede
Starfox:
Fox
Falco
Wolf
(New starfox rep: Possible, but i'm not really sure... Should probably stay with the kirby fanchise in terms of number of reps)
Pokémon:
Pikachu
PT (or at least some trainer with pokémon, maybe Team Rocket or N or someone)
Jigglypuff
(Zoroark or Victini: I think both of them have a real shot, so I'm undecided, but i root for both of them)
(Mewtwo: He has a lot of support since his cut from melee, plus he would've been in brawl most likely if it wasn't for time issues. I'm pretty sure he was one of the forbidden seven)
F-Zero:
C. Falcon
(Goroh: It's probably time F-Zero got it's second rep, but it does depend on Goroh's popularity and F-Zero's popularity in general IMO)
Fire Emblem:
Marth
Roy
(Ike: With new FE's coming out, there is a possibility that Ike will be replaced by another lord or someone to advertise a new game. That being said Ike has considerable support and would be fine to stay along)
Mother:
Ness
Lucas
Pikmin:
Olimar
(Louie: Doubt it, would probably be a clone of Olimar, should keep him as a costume)
Animal Crossing:
(Tom Nook: Animal crossing has had a stage and could well get a character next game. Tom Nook seems to be the only character who has enough support to be able to pull it off)
3rd party reps:
Snake
Sonic
Megaman
Smaller Franchises:
Pit
(Medusa: She has a fair amount of support, plus with the upcoming Kid Icarus she'll be fresh in the minds of everyone)
Ice Climbers
Mr. Game and Watch
(Chrono: A personal choice, I'll admit, but with the new 3DS remake of Chrono Trigger people may be reminded of him)
R.O.B.
Saki (see L. mac)
Isaac (see L. mac)
Takamaru (see L. mac)
Little Mac: These three have lots of support from all over so i think they all have a nice shot in the roster
(Slime and Chocobo: Also could be classified as third party reps, but they have also had history with Nintendo that goes way back. Enough support and these two could be quite interesting additions.
Total Additions(that i actually think are possible; some of the ones i put in to brackets i don't think will happen, but just saying they have a shot): 15
Possible addition total: 21
I may well have forgotten a few :-P
To add to this, Rosalina is ranked three points higher than him. Still, the odds are, Rosalina will not be a separate character, but it wouldn't hurt to treat her as an alternate outfit option.Wow, Ghirahim barely made it to 100.
Not too surprising as his game was only released in November.Wow, Ghirahim barely made it to 100.
Some terrible choices, but that is not your fault. I disagree that Waluigi is the unlikeliest choice in the group. That honor is reserved for Captain Syrup who is almost laughable. Bandana Dee was a shock, but an enjoyable one. Now Bandana Dee is a character I can see getting in the next game. I do not care about the logic of the selection I just see it happening.
Technically I was able to vote on your poll like five times last year. Each time I changed my votes... >.>ALSO, just because I added like, ten characters, doesn't mean you can double vote. That makes you a BAD PERSON if you do that. BAD.
This is pretty much how I feel in regards to Dragon Quest or Chrono Trigger.**** yeah K. Rool! Thank god even the ignorant punk *** masses know he deserves to be in Smash4. Hopefully he'll dominate Sakurai's poll and that'll convince him!
However, I'm disappointed but not surprised about Layton's low placement. 100 bucks say most people were all like "Professor Layton who the **** is that?!" I'll vote for Ryu!" We need to educate these lost souls! It should be our sacred charge to spread the gentlemanly word across the region! Soon every mundane task and object will remind our countless legions of a puzzle! We shall be unstoppable while sporting stylish headgear! It's inevitable!
If that doesn't work, thank God the Japanese love him!
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