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Characters I want in Smash 4 that aren't Nintendo:

This is all just a little wishlist of mine for Smash 4:

Amaterasu: Okami made it to the Wii, and Okamiden became a DS exclusive, so I believe this is in due order.

Travis Touchdown: No More Heroes is a great game series, and I think Travis would make a great addition. He would have to be cleaned up for younger audiences, which is why I highly doubt he'll ever be considered. One can only hope though.

Dante and Vergil: OK, this is just purely because I am such a huge fan of the DMC series, but both of these characters have what it takes to make it in the Smash Bros series. They have different styles from the rest of the cast, it would just be perfect.

Raiden: Since Metal Gear Rising is coming out, you would think that Kojima would add good 'ol Jack alongside Snake in this game. Raiden could be very fun to play if done right.

I don't really have any moveset ideas as of late for these characters, but I just wanted to make my list known.
 

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Characters I want in Smash 4 that aren't Nintendo:

This is all just a little wishlist of mine for Smash 4:

Amaterasu: Okami made it to the Wii, and Okamiden became a DS exclusive, so I believe this is in due order.

Travis Touchdown: No More Heroes is a great game series, and I think Travis would make a great addition. He would have to be cleaned up for younger audiences, which is why I highly doubt he'll ever be considered. One can only hope though.

Dante and Vergil: OK, this is just purely because I am such a huge fan of the DMC series, but both of these characters have what it takes to make it in the Smash Bros series. They have different styles from the rest of the cast, it would just be perfect.

Raiden: Since Metal Gear Rising is coming out, you would think that Kojima would add good 'ol Jack alongside Snake in this game. Raiden could be very fun to play if done right.

I don't really have any moveset ideas as of late for these characters, but I just wanted to make my list known.
Most newcomers wish to share their character wishes, as did I. However, your choices are all unlikely, and none of them would fit very well save for Okami, who may be an amazing choice, but lacks likelihood compared to first party characters, other third parties, let alone the figurehead of Capcom: Megaman. Though I agree it would be awesome. But the rest wouldn't be good at all. Dante and Vergil don't even originate from Nintendo, Raiden would make the second Metal Gear 3rd party (assuming even Snake returns), and Travis being very plain and too mature.
 

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Hey, Metal Overlord, I beat Metal Sonic:

Normal: 50 seconds
Hard: 1 min, 19 seconds

Just found a glitch in Sonic Generations... Lulz

If you jump when Deathegg (1st boss) lands, you won't bounce on the walls. But you can't hurt him, so it's useless.
Badass :cool:

You know... I've been thinking... What were we talking about again? XD

:phone:
I dunno LOL

i killed tupac :awesome:
I'm gonna be a little nicer than others and give you the benefit of the doubt by saying that I highly doubt you knew what you were getting into by saying that

i know that mother****er am joking *sigh*
That's NOT something you joke about, bro

Yous too young to understand how serious the whole Tupac situation was, there's just some stuff you can't joke about, this included

Is it so hard to just NOT reply to him?
Simply ignoring stuff does not help solve the problem, I don't think people get that

It's better to just point out the poster's mistakes and having them learn from them instead of just isolating him
 

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Or I'ma have your family dressed in all black

What's being discussed people?

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The only 3rd party characters I'd truly like to see are Banjo-Kazooie and Geno. Stupid RareSquare :[
I'd love Banjo and Kazooie to get in I use to love their game when I was younger unfortunately the chances of them getting in are extremely slim. Right now the only likely 3rd party characters are Megaman, Slime, and Ryu Hayabusa
 

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Heard it from a friend a week or so a go, used to listen myself but he's got me into it again. But yeah I listen. Not that often anymore cause reggae became my first choice.

And sorry but I gotta say, the only 3rd party chars likely to me ate Snake and Sonic. And maybe, perhaps a newcomer from their series.

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I mean, that's how y'all feel? Y'all ain't even gonn' post nothin'?

I loved the Snake Codecs in Brawl, like really that was one of the best Easter Eggs ever, and Snake was fun to play as so I really want him back

And Sonic is just my homie so he's gotta come back plus there's so much music from his series that I want in Smash

Now if only we could get Knuckles into Smash :urg:
 

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Correction: Now only if we could get Shadow into Smash :smirk:

EDIT: Sorry I'm sick and have a lot on my mind so if I'm not posting extra fast like I usually do, now you know.
 

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I'd love Banjo and Kazooie to get in I use to love their game when I was younger unfortunately the chances of them getting in are extremely slim. Right now the only likely 3rd party characters are Megaman, Slime, and Ryu Hayabusa
I wish they never went to M$, the company is full of fail now. I doubt they'd ever sell their IP's either :/

I loved the Snake Codecs in Brawl, like really that was one of the best Easter Eggs ever, and Snake was fun to play as so I really want him back

And Sonic is just my homie so he's gotta come back plus there's so much music from his series that I want in Smash

Now if only we could get Knuckles into Smash :urg:
I loved the Codec's! They both better return :urg:

I'd like to see Tails
 
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Actually, I can imagine him "buying" attacks and tossing you bells as a counter. It would look like Elisabeth's Etincelles animation wise, but instead of a strike of light, he throws out bells .
Kinda like what the villager is suppose to do but OH WELL.

I still think he should also sell things.
You got to be the most stupidest ****tard ever. y u no SDI?
Be soft on the guy. He's not the competitive type
 

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I've been playing Sonic Generations more recently... Hmm. I guess it's time for a new game to come out. When that PKMN Game comes out, I'll be the first kid to buy it. None ya'll beat me to it!

I also found an Easter Egg on Halo CEA: You can find the Troll Face on a message board in the first level. I laughed so hard :laugh: :laugh :laugh:

To add on, I'd love for everyone to return to SSB4, but here are the ones I must wish to return:

Melee:
Mewtwo
Young Link

Brawl:
Lucario
Wolf
Sonic

And here's the characters I hope DON'T return, just for the sake of making space for other worthy characters:

Melee:
Pichu
Dr. Mario (Better off as a Color Swap).

Brawl:
Olimar
ROB
Snake
Toon Link
 

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I've been playing Sonic Generations more recently... Hmm. I guess it's time for a new game to come out. When that PKMN Game comes out, I'll be the first kid to buy it. None ya'll beat me to it!

I also found an Easter Egg on Halo CEA: You can find the Troll Face on a message board in the first level. I laughed so hard :laugh: :laugh :laugh:

To add on, I'd love for everyone to return to SSB4, but here are the ones I must wish to return:

Melee:
Mewtwo
Young Link

Brawl:
Lucario
Wolf
Sonic

And here's the characters I hope DON'T return, just for the sake of making space for other worthy characters:

Melee:
Pichu
Dr. Mario (Better off as a Color Swap).

Brawl:
Olimar
ROB
Snake
Toon Link
Olimar is pretty much a sure thing. Someone has to rep Pikmin, especially with Pikmin 3 just around the corner. ROB is also pretty inevitable. He's a key piece of Nintendo history. Heck, without ROB, we probably wouldn't have even HAD Smash Bros. So I'm pretty sure he's staying.

I'm getting Sonic Generations 3DS for Christmas. :D

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Olimar is pretty much a sure thing. Someone has to rep Pikmin, especially with Pikmin 3 just around the corner. ROB is also pretty inevitable. He's a key piece of Nintendo history. Heck, without ROB, we probably wouldn't have even HAD Smash Bros. So I'm pretty sure he's staying.

I'm getting Sonic Generations 3DS for Christmas. :D

:phone:
The only reason why I don't see ROB returning is because of the late reappearence. I hate the Pikmin series, so that's just my opinion Lol
 

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Hey everyone. Long time lurker (since 06?), first time poster.

Just thought that I'd make a quick 'case for Geno'. I understand that most of this has probably already been said, and that people on either side of the debate probably don't need any input, considering most of the conversation has been beaten to death, but...

What better way to make a first post than to support my favourite character? :D

My case for Geno is essentially this: Sakurai is big on obscurity. From that, you could name tons of characters that could essentially be in Brawl, BUT, it's a mix of many factors that make me think Geno (still) has a decent shot.

Again, to rephrase, Sakurai likes obscurity. That's why Sakurai brought in people like Mr. Game and Watch, Ness, ROB, Roy, etc., where, regardless of how obscure they may have been to certain people (Smash Bros is what introduced me to Earthbound in the first place), inclusion of an obscure character didn't bring the game down, and instead, actually CREATED a fanbase for the characters that were being reintroduced, or brought back any fanbase that may have existed in the first place (see: Kid Icarus).

With Geno, the drawpoint is nostalgia. Personally, I loved both Geno and Mallow from Super Mario RPG equally. It was such a special and awesome game, and despite the support and critical reception, it was a game I felt was overlooked, and would have been way more successful if it had been released a year prior (instead of on the very dying days of the SNES). Luckily, Squaresoft and Nintendo's partnership did cause for some hype, and there is still a very dedicated following that exists today- one that I am very proud to support.

With that dedication, and with Sakurai's love for obscurity, you could at least see a starting point. From there, the spark turned into a fire, with fans of SMRPG new and old hoping for a small glimpse of anything from that game in the new generation (Mario and Luigi's cameo was nice, but we need more!). For me, I would've been happy seeing Geno and/or Mallow in any random Mario sports game, and yet, in a strange way, it's Sakurai's weird tendencies that make me think that Geno could get into a game where the process of being picked for the game is the most rigorous.

The 'Geno Alliance' has lived on in many forums, and despite his obscurity, Geno is basically synonymous with 'character that could have been in Brawl'. At this point in time, I believe that the 'rights' that Square-Enix may have over Geno are basically pointless, and that they would most likely allow his usage for a small fee, or for nothing (considering he doesn't, and won't get used by SE). Geno's inclusion could help provide an original 'rep' for Mario RPGs, which could lead to them getting more focus and recognition in smash games. His fanbase WAS, and in some ways, STILL IS huge. Just check out the 'Geno glitch in SSBB' video on Youtube- over 1,400,000 hits! With other 'Geno' videos related to Smash Bros. ranging anywhere from 20k to 200k in hits, and even 'Forest Maze' remixes getting lots of recognition. Top that with continuing support of SMRPG, with 'Rawest Forest' still being very meme-like in it's popularity, and many 'Let's Plays' and general SMRPG tributes/remixes/videos getting solid amounts of hits, and you can see that the game is alive and well in hearts (with new supporters being born from the Virtual Console). And with the fan support, and Sakurai's personality outlined, I want to highlight the true reason of why I feel like Geno is a solid possibility.

Sakurai's poll. Things are still very cloudy for me in regards to that poll, but one thing I am certain of is that Geno had a very solid reception (2nd most mentioned, behind Sonic, if I am correct), and Sakurai actively mentioned his existence. That means something to me. Sakurai knows he is, and I'm sure he was at least aware of the hype.

If Nintendo ever wants to put a new focus on a game that was released at a bad time (SMRPG), then I think the combined effort of that, WITH Sakurai putting in an SMRPG (and essentially- a Mario RPG) rep to legitimize it, would be brilliant.

And aside from all that, he's just a really awesome character that I would love to see again. His move set could be derived very easily (this can be said about a lot of characters, I know), and it would be a big service to fans who vaguely remember SMRPG, or love it with all their heart- and hell, even the fans that have heard of and support Geno, despite having never played SMRPG.

And if you look at it all from face value, it's illogical and downright insane to think that a character from a random Mario RPG for the Super Nintendo has a shot for this. But then I realize that for every Paper Mario game there has been, and for awesome the partners have been in said games, most of them still did, at the end of the day, feel like 'placeholders' for a certain chapter in said games, whereas Geno was a part of the 'crew' that went from beginning to end in a strange adventure, with changes and actual growth happening in between (moreso for Mallow, but whatever :p). And that is why I believe the following for Geno is, and always will be, greater than for someone like Watt (despite how much I love Watt).

So in conclusion, I just really, really, really, love Geno, and I hope Sakurai's poll, Geno and SMPRG's fanbase, Sakurai's love for obscurity, and a fulfilled wish from the Star Road will help bring this guy back onto my television screen in delicious 3d. :)
 

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I'm still angry for Sakurai being biased against Wario Land-series, since I think Wario's best moments are in that series. Wario Land 3 was legendary, yet everything about WL must get shafted for Warioware. Might explain Wario Land is nowadays obscurer than Warioware. (-i-l-)

(I'd be wierded out if Wario being cut from SSB4 due lack of Warioware-titles...)

Also, you might say Saki's almost already confirmed for SSB4. *Sigh of boredom*

Saddening that leaving revelancy issues for one man (and his preferences) and not company's fans really makes SSB not fair legacy tribute for most of Nintendo's franchises. *coughBrawltrophiescough*
 

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Noo, Saki's awesome, of course. (Sin & Punishment-fan here, ahoy!)
But the fact that we might already predict him to be SSB4, it's not making him so... anticipated anymore.
 
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@berserker01: He doesn't consider Saki boring, just frustrated with how Sakurai handles bias. Trust me, some of Sakurai decisions is very frustrating, especially (to me) with him ruling out Sukapon.
 

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I would've prefered Wario Land Wario above Wario Ware Wario as well. Though it hardly mathers in his fighting style, it's basically a sort of mix up from both series I guess? Only the bike really comes from Wario Ware. Though his neutral B is really weird though, wouldn't mind if they came up with a new one for that.
 

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So in conclusion, I just really, really, really, love Geno, and I hope Sakurai's poll, Geno and SMPRG's fanbase, Sakurai's love for obscurity, and a fulfilled wish from the Star Road will help bring this guy back onto my television screen in delicious 3d. :)
If you haven't done so already, join the Geno alliance group here on Smashboards :awesome:
 

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Cause he'd be too complex as said by Sakurai iirc. Never read about it myself, but here someone said so. What game is Sukapon from anyway?
 

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Cause he'd be too complex as said by Sakurai iirc. Never read about it myself, but here someone said so. What game is Sukapon from anyway?
Its funny if he thinks that, cuz characters without arms, legs or necks are usually made for simplicity animation wise. I hope there's another reason and TBH a fighter concept like Olimar's is more complex than Sukapon's seems to be. People change their minds at times, so hopefully Sakurai does regarding this.

BTW, Sukapon's from Joy Mech Fight. Nintendo created it due to Capcom's success with Street Fighter.
 

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Yeah... still wierded out.

About revelancy, will this mean that Sakurai:

- Will keep on treating Starfy as utter crap (None shall be good as my creation!)

- Shafting Wario Land over Wario Ware...

-Use Mario-characters for Nintendo's puzzle game representation and always keeping Lip's Stick as an item over character herself-

- Representate deserving IP's ( Golden Sun, Punchout!, etc) as assist trophies, stickers, blah blah...

and so on? Okay, just speculating...
 

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Its funny if he thinks that, cuz characters without arms, legs or necks are usually made for simplicity animation wise. I hope there's another reason and TBH a fighter concept like Olimar's is more complex than Sukapon's seems to be. People change their minds at times, so hopefully Sakurai does regarding this.

BTW, Sukapon's from Joy Mech Fight. Nintendo created it due to Capcom's success with Street Fighter.
I'm watching a video about Joy Mech Fight, and now I want Sukapon in. :awesome:
 

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Yeah... still wierded out.

About revelancy, will this mean that Sakurai:

- Will keep on treating Starfy as utter crap (None shall be good as my creation!)

- Shafting Wario Land over Wario Ware...

-Use Mario-characters for Nintendo's puzzle game representation and always keeping Lip's Stick as an item over character herself-

- Representate deserving IP's ( Golden Sun, Punchout!, etc) as assist trophies, stickers, blah blah...

and so on? Okay, just speculating...
I hope not. Hopefully, The Legendary Starfy gave Starfy just the boost he needed.

:phone:
 

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Young Horsetail said:
About revelancy, will this mean that Sakurai:

- Will keep on treating Starfy as utter crap (None shall be good as my creation!)

- Shafting Wario Land over Wario Ware...

-Use Mario-characters for Nintendo's puzzle game representation and always keeping Lip's Stick as an item over character herself-

- Representate deserving IP's ( Golden Sun, Punchout!, etc) as assist trophies, stickers, blah blah
I never figured you to get so ferocious with it!

Fellas round here are growing up fast.
 

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SSB = What Nintendo is about shortly.
That's what most think.

Underneath it's more like "Nintendo from Sakurai's eyes."

I think that's what makes me ticked off when I think about the way SSB representates Nintendo, and how people believe that according how SSB treats/reps (*insert franchise*), it's either this revelant or even not worthy mention in Nintendo's history, despite how good game is. (Looking at you Starfy and Wario Land)
Damn Sakurai and his bias, because some people will follow what he thinks of Nintendo.
 

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Here is an idea for a new movement mechanic for the next smash.

Crouch Jump: If a character is crouching for over a second, he will look up. A press of the jump button will make the character jump extra high vertically.

Of course there could be variations. Mario might do a extra high backflip, giving him extra vertical distance as well as backwards momentum.
 
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