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New Possible Roster, with just as much cred as the 35 one. MajinNecro's 39 characters

Tree Gelbman

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Ouch.

Markman and Reno must be loving all the fame they got for creating a fake roster for a game that actually matters (Not that Soul Calibur IV doesn't, but who cares about Tekken seriously now a days?) :laugh:
 

Tree Gelbman

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Heh. It has absolutely no cred if you use your common sense. Too much going against it, but I'm so done discussing those two and their little phony *** roster. I will eat my words if it comes true indeed, but I won't have to.
 

KazenoZ

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Come on guys!
How can you all be so blind?
They're both impossible, no luigi(In the 35 character roster), no C. Falcon they're both practicaly confirmed, and to top it all off, no icon 19 rep?
(I'm not gonna say anything about a 3rd 3rd party char, because, personally, I always doubted there would be more than 2, not to mention it's already quite too late to reveal one when we're just a week from release)
They both might be pretty close to reality, but truth be told, they're taking out details that could wreck their theories and just ignoring them, there are atleast these 3 characters missing from the rosters.
 

iluvnintendo1983

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I can't believe so many people try to defend that 35 character roster! I've seen so many great rosters out there that actually make a whole lot of sense...but people shoot them down as being "fake" the very second they lay eyes on them (even the ones that look very believable). However, as soon as a horrible roster that makes no sense appears...they say, "That's it! Sorry people...this is our final roster, end of discussion!"
 

hungrybum

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I like that roster, it doesn't contain minor series characters.... and by that i mean:: where the hell is cpt.falcon!

Otherwise i would love that roster (who could be perfected if mewtwo replaced dark samus)
 

Boofer

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I can't believe so many people try to defend that 35 character roster! I've seen so many great rosters out there that actually make a whole lot of sense...but people shoot them down as being "fake" the very second they lay eyes on them (even the ones that look very believable). However, as soon as a horrible roster that makes no sense appears...they say, "That's it! Sorry people...this is our final roster, end of discussion!"
The thing is, people are just trying to make sense out of the whole situation. I'm trying to show people that most of their "proof" against the 35 character roster is not really proof at all. Most of it is "this roster over here makes more sense because it has my favorite character in it." Trust me, I've been looking for proof against it for 3 days, and I have yet to see any. The trophey thing in SSE is the closest thing to proof, but it does NOT debunk the roster.
 

Revven

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Exactly. People need to stop insisting things as if they're fact.

They did that with Ness, and look at how that fiasco turned out.
Yeah... but those guys were Ness haters and or didn't want him returning because they thought he'd be a clone. Now we have roster haters who say the roster is wrong and blah blah blah. If the Ness hater is any indication towards what's fact and what isn't, then it should be the same case here: The haters saying it's fact that the roster is fake when in reality it eventually becomes confirmed (ala Ness) and then you feel pissed for believing the other way around.

KazenoZ said:
Come on guys!
How can you all be so blind?
They're both impossible, no luigi(In the 35 character roster), no C. Falcon they're both practicaly confirmed, and to top it all off, no icon 19 rep?
(I'm not gonna say anything about a 3rd 3rd party char, because, personally, I always doubted there would be more than 2, not to mention it's already quite too late to reveal one when we're just a week from release)
They both might be pretty close to reality, but truth be told, they're taking out details that could wreck their theories and just ignoring them, there are atleast these 3 characters missing from the rosters.
*slap*

There's Luigi in the 35, you're just NOT looking! C. Falcon indeed is not in the 38 roster but HE IS in the 35. The Icon 19 rep is none other than R.O.B (again, NOT STARFOX ROB. Whoever made that indication is mistaken due to roster placement, we REALLY need to fix that mock-up). There aren't any missing characters from the roster that are veterans, they're all there, you're just thinking they're not. It's sad really, being in denial all the time seems to generate false truths.

One more thing, I only believe the 35 roster as a possibility so I'm READY to be disappointed. I don't see why no one does this, I don't understand why anyone can't just think of the 35 roster as a possibility so that way they aren't as nearly as disappointed come release. It's stupid to just say "OMGZ FAKE BECASUSE ONE FRANCHS IS -1 REPLESS!" That's your belief, doesn't debunk the roster. You can believe it to be fake, but as a whole, nothing debunks the roster.

What debunks the 38 roster are two things: No Captain Falcon (veteran, hello!) and it's from some nobody "leaker" who hasn't posted since Christmas break. If anything, he's just like the rest of them and got a lucky guess. Markman and Reno on the other hand, actually have a HISTORY with fighting games and both are respected on NeoGAF (by the mods even, and some of those mods are IN the gaming industry).

But, yeah, that's the difference which I why I believe the 35 roster more as a possibility than this roster.
 

Weltunter

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QFT.
I assume the people that favor K. Rool to Dixie have never played a DK game...
Wrong, it's more the other way round.

What differs Dixie from Diddy? Her hair. That's it.

King K. Rool has a much better potential moveset. He is a strong and slow character, has a musket, can throw his crown like a boomerang, has many tools (Roolenstein), is the major villain...

If there's a 3rd Donkey Kong rep, it's King K. Rool and not Dixie.
 

MIRAI87

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K. Rool but no C. Fal?
Umm...

I'm not any more partial to this creation than to the 35 character roster. Neither one has Geno :p
Anyway, I believe the 35 over this, though I hope that it's untrue.
 

Weltunter

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K. Rool but no C. Fal?
Umm...

I'm not any more partial to this creation than to the 35 character roster. Neither one has Geno :p
Anyway, I believe the 35 over this, though I hope that it's untrue.
This is a prediction, no actual leak (like all the other "leaks")

He just forgot the Captain... (shame on him! :mad: :laugh:)
 

5@/\/\U5

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wait, who predicted Mushroomy Kingdom, and when?

edit: just looked it up, some mysterious gamefaqs dude, hmmmmm, ok

also, the site seems to be running a bit smoother :)

and yeah, this majin guy is just speculating, and probably let Capt Falcon slip his mind, but if you trim a 5th or 4th rep off a certain series and add in Falcon you still get a nice sized rostaer with quality characters. But there's no real reason to believe this over the 35 roaster, aside from maybe the prediction of Dark Samus by the mysterious gamefaqs guy who also predicted mushroomy kingdom. I just feel like the 35 roster is suspect because of a single metroid rep
 

SinisterLizard

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Uh, yeah...it is a lot better. This is why you don't believe anything until there is concrete proof.
 

Zek

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What the hell is this? You've just posted some guy's random guess at a roster. This has zero credibility, obviously. The 35 character roster is based primarily on the leaks of reputable posters from NeoGAF, not some random putz putting together info from previous leaks and adding his own ideas.
 

Drack

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This roster has exactly as much credibility as the 35 character roster.

Zero.
 

Drclaw411

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ZOE MY TEH GAWDSH!!!!!1111!!!ONE!!!SHIFT+1!!!!!!!!! TEH CHUK NORE-ISS OV TEH ZMASH KAPTEN FELCUN IZ NOHT TEH OHN TEH RAHSTOR!!!!!!ZOMGUH!!! Seriously guys, i'm sure MajinNecro just made a typo forgetting to put Falcon.


BESIDES, THAT'S NOT EVEN THE POINT: THE POINT IS THAT THE EXACT SAME LOGIC AND METHODS THAT PUT TOGETHER THE 35 CHARACTER ROSTER CAN BE USED TO BUILD A MUCH BETTER ROSTER. Go ahead and throw the Falcon on there, and the logic/method still works. Which is the point.
 

aruby14

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Why the Hell are people making these things? Hell, the game comes out NEXT WEEK!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHO CARES FOR ALL THESE THEORIES!!!!
 

Milos

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How can you say it more credible? I had like mathematics and probability stuff in mine. I did backtracking and history. I even added pictures! This isn't a theory at all. This is "I would like Brawl to have these characters in it"

Again, just because I invented this theory doesn't mean I want it to be true. I'd want Ridley. He's bad ***.
Cry me a river.
 

LegendOfGeno

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There is no ROB, there is no ROB 64

ROB was in Mario Kart DS if you remember and his presence in the game was not well received. I doubt he will be a playable character. It's possible to see him as an AT and it's possible we will even get that update before the game is released in Japan. On another note every roster out there that has any kind of ROB is 99% false.

Another thing to take into consideration is the DK franchise and how we only have DK and Diddy representing the brawl. I personally want to see Dixie and one thing I always keep in mind is how a character is able to get back on the stage when falling. I simply cannot see any way K. Rool with that ability. Dixie on the otherhand can spin with her hair and the fact we have the "Brambles" song from DKC2 we can see her appearance in some for (SE or AT), or another stage.
 

ROOOOY!

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-King K. Rool (if you think Dixie's going here, you're out of your **** mind)

Um. Sorry, but what the hell does that mean? Dixie's a hell of a lot of a better choice than K.Rool.

The reply there was the funniest thing I have EVER read.
Me no see Captain Falcon though, why? :ohwell:
 

flyinfilipino

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BESIDES, THAT'S NOT EVEN THE POINT: THE POINT IS THAT THE EXACT SAME LOGIC AND METHODS THAT PUT TOGETHER THE 35 CHARACTER ROSTER CAN BE USED TO BUILD A MUCH BETTER ROSTER. Go ahead and throw the Falcon on there, and the logic/method still works. Which is the point.
OK, but the truth is, no one really cares.
 

Tyrannotaur

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Why does everyone count Mewtwo out? Just because him and Lucario have "humanoid" appearances and can throw balled energy attacks doesn't make them the same thing. Lucario doesn't have Telekinetic powers or the ability to teleport. Lucario is more of a brawler. He will probably use more Physical attacks that Mewtwo ever would. Even Mewtwo'd Smash Attacks use that "ghost/Psychic" energy. He never attacks with his arms. Only his Mind and his Tail. Even his F-air uses that energy. Lucario being a fighting type will make him use his paws and Legs alot more than Mewtwo ever would. I can see something like Alakazam replacing Mewtwo. Not Lucario. If anything Lucario is replacing Pichu.

Mewtwo has a unique moveset, he isn't a clone and despite being hard to play as, he was well liked by many Melee fans. Taking him out is a stupid idea.

I like this roster much more than the stupid 35 R.O.B. one. ROB=phailure.

Oh yeah, some people say ROB is in cause he is really the Ancient Minister. I think Pichu is the Ancient Minister. IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!!!!!1111onetwenty
 

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Do you seriously need to post this garbage.

It's just words. Words mean nothing without proof.
End of discussion, and it's false, everyone knows that. Why didn't you post this in the other 15-30 threads that have their own roasters?..
 

Firestorm88

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Problem: Newcomers list was confirmed by Reno as the one on the other list.
Other Problem: Reno and Markman have stated 35 characters
Third Problem: Reno is the most credible leaker by far
 

MajinNecro69

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Oh my, did I forget CAPTAIN FALCON??? Please kill me :D

TC, nice job, I didn't intend for this to be a leak of any kind, however (not to TC, to posters within), but yeah, I just used logic, and the three leakers mentioned above. So, if DrClaw411 could just edit it so Falcon is in there (and subsequently fix that it would have 39 characters, and 42 "total,"), then yeah. Everything will be fine.

ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A LEAK OF ANY KIND. DrClaw411 is just using MY example of using logic to fabricate a 38-40 character roster, using three prophets (JUST LIKE CHRONOBOUND) and using them to make a roster. I am not claiming to know anything about the Brawl roster. All I happened to do was smash those three prophets into a roster, and speculate on. The point of this thread, if I'm reading DrClaw411 correctly, is to prove that ANYTHING is possible in Brawl, and you shouldn't chalk it up to a 35 character roster that everyone is passing off as real, when it hasn't been confirmed yet.
 

Coselm

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Yes, this roster does have 0 credibility just like the 35 character roster.

Props to MajinNecro for showing how easy it was to fabricate a believable roster.
 
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