soviet prince
I am the terror that flaps in the night
at this point I am supporting any roster thats not the 35 roster 
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New Possible Roster, with just as much cred as the 35 one. MajinNecro's 39 characters
- Thread starter Drclaw411
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because a game is coming out, and people are believing rosters with R.O.B. over rosters with Ridley
Saltwater Gem
Smash Journeyman
If you think the other roster has 0 credibility, you're setting yourself up for a fall.
Sorry, no. The 35 character roster wasn't put together, it was leaked. Deal with it.
S2
Smash Lord
My only problem with the 35 character roster was the lack of M2.
At this point, I don't care if they add no more new characters. As long as the non-clones return (including M2).
I'm sad because I get the feeling M2 is not returning and I can't cope with the loss of his awesomeness.
At this point, I don't care if they add no more new characters. As long as the non-clones return (including M2).
I'm sad because I get the feeling M2 is not returning and I can't cope with the loss of his awesomeness.
SolidSonic
Smash Ace
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This is pretty stupid. Just a bunch of kids with an illusions worth of cred, messing around on the web cuz they have nothing better to do. Yes I know this isn't supposed to be a "leak", but it is based upon the silly BS "leakers/prophets" of the past.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
The 35 roster was originally "put together" you could say by board goers, and then about a week later "leaked." Its origins though were never from one person, and it indeed was just a amalgam of credible leakers who only leaked so much.
LucidDreamGod
Smash Cadet
I'd like this one for sure, but I'm not sure it has as much to back it up I'd have to learn more about what those prophets you based it on said in the past, and I vaguly remember someone on this board suggesting that they make a stage like mushroomy kingdome and then they later posted that they were suprised nintendo went up and did something exactly like that, inless ofcourse the prophet your talking about prodicted the name of it, that would be more interesting.
Desruprot
Smash Lord
Yoshi is apart of the Mario universe, and Marth, not likely to be in, I think this would be debunked, some of it is good, but the flaws in the list make it impossible...
Saltwater Gem
Smash Journeyman
SolidSonic
Smash Ace
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"Reliable sources" is your opinion, to me their just more interweb-turds, sprawling about in forum games.
Rightt...... I'm sure thats the official tale.
I've heard many a tale amongst industry insiders, and 90% of the time it was bull ****.
Unless you consider MarkMan and Reno. Then you can't.
: | <---dis is mah srs fase
Unfortunately, it's a comparatively informed opinion, which is part of what's necessary.
Saltwater Gem
Smash Journeyman
Why, because you don't like what they have to say? They've been extremely reliable in the past and face IP Ban... and one of them is a mod. For a group of people who trusted rapscouter and thealmightygoat, I don't know if everyone should be expressing doubt about this.
LucidDreamGod
Smash Cadet
I don't have almost any doubt over it anymore.
The truth is people are going to want to accept their version of the truth that they like best.
Sadly, he's probably just not informed about how much credibility is behind the crappy roster. :/
Seriously, people going "they won't be banned, the mods won't follow the rules with them!" or "Yeah, well how do you know that they're the same MarkMan and Reno!" are kind of saddening me. Does anyone really believe this, or are they digging that deep?
The fact that it was put together earlier is a simple coincidence. I don't know how many of the leakers who provided that information were real. But the NeoGAF posters who leaked the whole thing later on are extremely credible. They would not have put their accounts on the line just to copy a roster speculation from SmashBoards and pass it off as real. You guys can believe whatever you want for the next couple days but don't act like you didn't see it coming.
SolidSonic
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Nope thats not why.
almightygoat and rapscouter you say, oh that makes all the difference!
I'm not trying to insult them, I'm sure they think they know what the roster is.
jay~B
Smash Journeyman
Neither rob will be in brawl, in starfox rob is not an important character (If peppy is not rob isn't) and rob from brawl was created only for brawl, it's like saying one of the alloy's is a playable character
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Hmm? It's true. In fact it was all assembled here first. It was composed of basically four people's predictions (Serebii, ChaosZero Nyase, and ShadowXOR) and using the 35 character limit, plus some practical assumptions (Luigi was never in anyone's but everyone knows he's back) the first 35 list was born. Afterwards, the exact same list was given by many of these others leakers, with no changes. If anything, that means the people of this board got it right before they did...if it is correct.
LucidDreamGod
Smash Cadet
I don't know if rapscouter is correct since he seems to suggest an extreamly high amount of stages, and one time more then 3 of his prodictions discredited the 35 roster, if any of the prophets where right I would want rapscouter to be though.
Saltwater Gem
Smash Journeyman
And why shouldn't they? sp0rsk (the admin there) said that what they had said went along with the information HIS source had given him, which would dictate that the exact same information came from two seperate sources. One person getting a false leak, improbable but possible. 3 people ALL getting wrong information from reliable sources? Let's stop the crap please.almightygoat and rapscouter you say, oh that makes all the difference!
I'm not trying to insult them, I'm sure they think they know what the roster is.
Saltwater Gem
Smash Journeyman
Okay, here's the thing:
R.O.B. IS A WTF CHARACTER. I mean, WTF R.O.B.?! The thing is, the past several months we've been posing hundreds of different characters and have been digging up every obscure corpse in Nintendo's catalogue (Sukapon? Takamaru? Sheriff?) that there wouldn't really be any WTF that we would have not thought of.
Blubby
Smash Apprentice
K. Rool, Bowser Jr. and Ridley? Sorry but i think they are not good for Smash Bros. 
Vigilant Gambit
Smash Journeyman
I don't believe this roster for a second, for the simple fact that it was created and advertised as a "very good roster" rather than a "likely roster based on what we know and what proven leakers have told us thus far."
It's based more on what people want than what we know. "____ isn't an important character, but ___ is, so this is the real roster" is a completely subjective and useless remark.
It's based more on what people want than what we know. "____ isn't an important character, but ___ is, so this is the real roster" is a completely subjective and useless remark.
But we watched the whole thing unfold. And that's exactly what happened. : |
Industry insiders can be bull****, but the Melee roster was leaked too.
"GAme and Watch? Fake"
"Man, I cant wait to play as Ridley, guys!"
"Who's Roy? Roy Koopa? Why is he playable?"
"WHERE'S SONIC? THAT ROSTER IS FAKE."
etc.
eggs-on-toast
Smash Apprentice
Can i ask, what would the big differences between dark Samus and Samus be?
What would be so great about paper mario? or WW Link or minda/wolf?
3 fire Emblem reps? I find that hard to believe i must admit
4 Starfox reps? No peppy in the list yet theres ROB???? i say fox, falco and maybe wolf
3 Earthbound reps? A game which wast even released in europe i don't think?
Yes that list may be true but come on just wait a few days and you'll know for sure but i sure won't want to know the full list so i'm going to try and avoid that.
What would be so great about paper mario? or WW Link or minda/wolf?
3 fire Emblem reps? I find that hard to believe i must admit
4 Starfox reps? No peppy in the list yet theres ROB???? i say fox, falco and maybe wolf
3 Earthbound reps? A game which wast even released in europe i don't think?
Yes that list may be true but come on just wait a few days and you'll know for sure but i sure won't want to know the full list so i'm going to try and avoid that.
Kittah4
Smash Ace
Maybe you'll grow an imagination when you get older.K. Rool, Bowser Jr. and Ridley? Sorry but i think they are not good for Smash Bros.
Also, KaiserX, you're telling me you DON'T believe the NeoGAFs will recieve special treatment if they are misinformed/lying/kidding? You build up a good rep with the mods, you have a seat of provision and privilege.
You accused me of being naive to believe that Iwata wasn't a spin-making scumbag, yet you believe NeoGAF wouldn't be above corruption in the higher ranks?
"For the lulz" seems an acceptable situation of how things are playing out. Look at Smashboards and GameFAQs. The rumor has decimated the hopes of many a fan and worried countless others and sent others into (hopefully needless) denial.
Who wouldn't want to abuse that sort of power?
LucidDreamGod
Smash Cadet
Yeah I know that I remember, I was suprised too that he didn't see R.O.B. as a WTF character though he techniqly isn't if he's from star fox, but then again even that might be considered one.
They have a good rep for being right.
You're grasping, dear. The rules don't suddenly not apply to them. If there was any kind of response like that, you'd be sure there'd be problems. The mods said that they're trustable because they told the mods, and no one else, what their source was. It's in no way different from Serebii not being able to tell us his sources.
Just stop. There's no special treatment here.
Here's the difference: you can't prove that Iwata had an opinion different from what he said.
But if they aren't banned from NeoGAF, people are kind of going to notice that. And they're kind of going to be upset that they were given false information. Think about it.
Because there isn't any power there. Good lord, dude. Actually think about it. You can't just simply SAY there's corruption and that people magically won't get banned just because you're skeptical. It's a little different from saying "Iwata's probably going to say good things because he wants money."
But please, by all means, team up with Norman Reedus and David Della Rocco and save us from these "must-be" liars and corrupt intarwebz folk. Willem Defoe can help too with the assistance of some alcohol and a confessional.
Seriously, man.
Terradrius
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Uh, R.O.B. (of the R.O.B. Squad and possible playable character) was not created for brawl.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robotic_Operating_Buddy
therealssjlink
Smash Apprentice
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cynar
Smash Apprentice
this has no cred at all, it's fake
And the fact that they do not know this indicates that he is INDEED a WTF character in the same vein as G&W and in fact functions as the same purpose to touch upon the history of Nintendo that all the 12 year olds weren't aware of while they were fapping to the thought of an 82 character roster or something.
Vigilant Gambit
Smash Journeyman
http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/subjective
"4 a (1): peculiar to a particular individual : personal <subjective judgments> (2): modified or affected by personal views, experience, or background "
peculiar to a particular individual
individual
None of the characters on the Brawl roster trigger a "WTF?" response from me. We had Captain Falcon in Melee, ffs. We never once saw the man fight, yet they gave him a fire element. An Animal Crossing character wouldn't make much sense given the context of the AC games, but they could still have put in any of them as justifiable fighters.
I'll tell you what would've been a "WTF?" character to me. The clam from Super Mario Bros. 3.
Please, guys. Don't debate on why person-who-isn't-you-X doesn't think character-X provokes a "WTF?" response, because it all boils down to individuality.
Kittah4
Smash Ace
And here's the contradiction. With a good rep for being right comes their power. The neoGAF leakers have a propensity for being right. Thus, if they're wrong or right, they've already done a lot of damage to peoples emotions and hopes. They HAVE abused their power, for truth or false.
I'll admit it's likely they're both telling the truth and are correct and Smash fans are set up for a great fall.
However, there's ALWAYS possibility for human maliciousness and deciet, whether it came from Nintendo themselves, their sources, or them.