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New Falco videos. :D

wool

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Those are pretty nice vids man. I'm pretty sure you know your faults (tech skill isn't 100% perfect obviously but you seem like you're practicing and all so). And I'm pretty sure you didn't laser camp much because they were friendlies haha. There was one thing I wanted to say though... i forgot it now :(

OH WAIT.

You seem to stand still a lot with Falco, which I think is a disadvantage to him. I mean sometimes its good but you seem to playing Falco a little like Fox (where you play a lot slower (compared to falco)). So I guess you could just move around a lot more (DDs, WLs, etc) just to be more active and spaz-tic (is that a word?)
 

AprilShaw

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You don't follow up on a lot of combo opportunities
Be careful where you laser, if the distance you can move in one dash to short hop is 1 SH you wanna stay around 1 or 2 SH's when lasering. Hovering at .5SH or 1.5SH is bad, though the Marth missed a lot of punishes.
Don't laser so close against Marth all the time unless you immediately follow it with a shine. He missed these punishes too but he had a lot of shield grab opportunities.
Same thing but you turned him around to face you with lasers a lot before your shield pressure, better to stay behind him.
Don't rush into his sword so much. I know you have a pretty solid Fox but keep in mind Falco just isn't as fast haha.
Don't try things you can't do yet (I know it's friendlies but I'm treating it like a tourney match :p). If you can't pillar perfectly, that's fine, don't try to though. Same with laser games and shine tricks, you got punished a lot unnecessarily.
Try not to be so predictable with recovering. lol yeah I know its Falco, he pretty much is as predictable as it gets so... yeah.
You resort to laser camping a lot when you're behind, which is all well and good but the laser isn't an auto win button. Keep up the pressure, try not to change your style because you're behind (unless your old style is getting *****).
Side B platform cancel is nice and flashy but you got grabbed out of it and never really did anything with it. lol :p
Remember that Up B slightly above horizontal will send you the furthest distance as Falco. Don't know if that ever woulda saved you but it's just good to know.
Edgehog more, a good edgehog can lead into combos :D
Keep in mind that flashy and fast isn't good. As you got more confident you seemed to do a lot more showing off, and again I know its friendlies but the fastest way isn't always the most effective.
On the same line as the above post, random **** works as long as it's random. Dash attacks in the middle of shield pressure, or random F-smashes and such are all great as long as they don't expect it.
Don't get grabbed.
Don't get hit.
DI away and down from Marth, or if you think he's going for a spike, DI up and towards. Just don't let him get that tipper lol.
Learn to edgetech if you can (it's so easy to learn it against Peach lol). Falco has almost no options off the stage, and when you can potentially lose a high damage combo every time you mess up recovering, it adds up fast and hurts bad.
Crouch cancel D-smash absolutely destroys Marth's recovery if it's not spaced perfectly.
Read Mogwai's Falco thread, especially for your lasers lol it's really well made.
The Marth should be more like he was in that first Fox video. So funny :D

Anyways that's all I have to say lol. Didn't watch the C.Falcon vids yet, I'll get to them when I can if you think my advice'll help at all :p

Edit: didn't realize how much I typed... sorry for the wall of font xD
 

TemPesT-

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when you watch the falcon videos you'll just be like

-That falcon is too good. That is all.
QFT

i watched most of the falcon videos. and nearly every match i said to myself "that falcon is too good."

falco player, your pretty technical but i thought your techs were pretty easy to read =/. idk other than that you just got out played.
 

Rubyiris

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QFT

i watched most of the falcon videos. and nearly every match i said to myself "that falcon is too good."

falco player, your pretty technical but i thought your techs were pretty easy to read =/. idk other than that you just got out played.
Nothing I can do about this.
 

Rubyiris

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I love GG7 alot, but It's also discouraging not being able to figure out how to avoid being read without developing bad habits.

I.E. Teching in place often throws him off if I play Falco. No tech is also risky but works really well as well.

But then if I do this when he plays Marth, it's just asking to get hit by Marth's ****, I mean sword.
 

LLDL

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standing still isn't a good idea. Plus ,you need to always be moving in a constant flow. Its good for your fingers, you dont want them to cramp during an important match, also It's better for your reactions than waiting for something to happen.
 

AprilShaw

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There's nothing wrong with standing still lol. Not moving is as much of a mindgame as moving, you know?

Easiest way to put it is like this. Let's pretend I'm Falco and you're Marth. Everytime I d-air your shield, I shine to JC grab. So every time I d-air your shield, you wait for the shine, then jump back, so instead I use an f-smash. It's a terrible, unsafe idea, but it hits because you're 100% sure I won't do it.

Everyone understands that concept with attacks, but it works just the same with movement lol.

Also disappointed that I made that huge behemoth of a post and the OP didn't even comment on it :(
 

Rubyiris

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standing still isn't a good idea. Plus ,you need to always be moving in a constant flow. Its good for your fingers, you dont want them to cramp during an important match, also It's better for your reactions than waiting for something to happen.
I've been playing Melee, Stepmania, Beatmania, Starcraft, and GunZ for about as long as each game has been released, and my fingers/wrists have never cramped, nor will they ever.

This doesn't apply to me.
 

Rubyiris

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K so after rewatching my videos, and playing some more, the standing still is mostly my freezing up, or being intimidated. It's impossible to say "don't stand still" and expect me to do something about it at the moment.

I'm really ****ty at this game. I desperately need help.
 

Sizzle

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Ruby, I watched the whole Falcon set, and it appeared to me that your best stocks were when your laser game was spot on. A lot of the time you approached or retreated with lasers, you seemed to be the most deadly. For example, on match 2 (DL64) in your third stock you dictate the flow of the match perfectly by your lasers and almost break his shield throwing him off quite a bit and KO him once. The same stock, one retreating laser changes up the whole flow of CF, and you KO him once again. Towards the end, you make a couple of mistakes and end up SDing, but after watching a lot of the matches, I think using more retreating lasers will throw your opponents rhythm off and allow you to regain yours. As previously mentioned, one laser was able to change the momentum of the game and I think you could use it more to escape pressure than you were in many of the posted matches.
 

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Rubyiris

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Ruby, I watched the whole Falcon set, and it appeared to me that your best stocks were when your laser game was spot on. A lot of the time you approached or retreated with lasers, you seemed to be the most deadly. For example, on match 2 (DL64) in your third stock you dictate the flow of the match perfectly by your lasers and almost break his shield throwing him off quite a bit and KO him once. The same stock, one retreating laser changes up the whole flow of CF, and you KO him once again. Towards the end, you make a couple of mistakes and end up SDing, but after watching a lot of the matches, I think using more retreating lasers will throw your opponents rhythm off and allow you to regain yours. As previously mentioned, one laser was able to change the momentum of the game and I think you could use it more to escape pressure than you were in many of the posted matches.
I usually look for what's wrong with my game, and that seems to be the trend with other posters, so it's pretty refreshing when someone mentions my doing something correct. I'm going to have to study this game and pay attention to the points you brought up.

Thanks.
 

PEEF!

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The Falcon is a god.

I like the falco. GG7 just didnt get shut down by the lasers. If falco cant shut Falcon down with lasers then its ggz.

Good matches tho. I enjoyed.
 

Sion

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I've been working on my laser game. ;D
Yeah, definitely work on the laser game. It definitely helps against falcon.. or any other character in general. You had some good lasers in some falcon matches, but you stopped shooting them at times giving him a solid advantage. Other people stated that having a constant flow with falco is good, which it is, but a defensive style has potential.

You have a lot of stuff down like shield pressure and shine aerials, but fluidity will come in time. All the wrong choices you think or know you're making will be corrected with experience. If you try and rush your skill growth, you'll end up giving yourself a harder time. I know I did.

I play blind aggression so I can't really help people with a standing still "approach" or something a bit more defensive than mine. All I know is that you'll definitely get better if you practice fluidity and comboing.

edit: a month old.. whoops.
 

V3ctorMan

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Man, I havent been here on the falco boards in like forever.. Keep up the good work Ruby

Also..

Gamer, Your Falcon, is freakin rediculous man! I love it! Im a start watchin your vids alot more.. your falcon's awesome to watch
 
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