New Characters for Project M Discussion Thread (Voting Closed)

[Solbliminal]

Can I get a +1 for Robo Waluigi?

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

Fixed.

 

[Solbliminal]

Fixed.

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

@ arcticfox8

I got a few more sketches done. I am a bad artist, don't judge.

Dash Attack

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For the dash attack, while like kirby's in a sense, I think it should go slower than his and just slightly less distance than Kirby.

Walking animation

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EDIT: Got a theoretical Brawl Box picture of his slowest walking animation.

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He is definitely up to no good.

It looks even better than I thought.

EDIT 2: Theoretical Brawl Box photo for swimming

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EDIT 3: Waluigi has only more pitch before the Waluigi Cheaters become the next Mario Baseball champions!

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Waluigi with nice form as he winds up.

Waluigi throws a killer fastball!

STRIKE 3! The Waluigi Cheaters win!

Celebrating his victory with a "Wa-Lu-I-Gi YEAH YEAH YEAH!"

 

[Cool Blue]

So what's the verdict on Dark Samus?

 

[arcticfox8]

That walk is genius.

HEY IDEA! He should totally spawn a Soccer Ball. All about dem sports.
Sometimes I feel like he may be spawning too many items when items are usually banned. But then again Waluigi has never been known for playing fair. TOO BAD

 

[Solbliminal]

@ arcticfox8

I got a few more sketches done. I am a bad artist, don't judge.

Dash Attack

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For the dash attack, while like kirby's in a sense, I think it should go slower than his and just slightly less distance than Kirby.

Walking animation

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I can appreciate the effort being put into this. You don't really have to be an artist to get your ideas across. Hey. If it helps with the moveset, you can always try my old method. Boot up BrawlBox with a model of Waluigi and play around with the poses. Take yourself some screen shots and post em up here.

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

I can appreciate the effort being put into this. You don't really have to be an artist to get your ideas across. Hey. If it helps with the moveset, you can always try my old method. Boot up BrawlBox with a model of Waluigi and play around with the poses. Take yourself some screen shots and post em up here.

I should have thought of that. that is actually a really good idea. I might toy around with it later today. Thanks.

 

[Solbliminal]

I should have thought of that. that is actually a really good idea. I might toy around with it later today. Thanks.

Never a problem man.

@ Rasgar Hey, you and I haven't had a good Ray discussion in a while. Any ideas you would like to pitch at me?

 

[CaptainKirby]

I really do hope Waluigi is implemented in Project M. It was a shame, I thought, to hear of the news of him remaining as an assist trophy, and especially with Sakurai's somewhat demoralizing words complimenting it. I feel like he could certainly have a unique moveset, and Marioking64DS's videos are a great preface for that. (Or even his Project Crusade's moveset, which include him batting tennis balls, chucking bob-ombs, etc. Basically all things Waluigi-like.) Plus, I feel like if we were going to have another main staple series' character, like, say from Legend of Zelda, for example, the Mario series in general should definitely have another inclusion to boot as well.

 

[Solbliminal]

@ Anti Guy I know you are probably busy, but do you have an estimated time when we might see an update for the poll? Things are starting to die down here.

 

[Anti Guy]

@ Anti Guy I know you are probably busy, but do you have an estimated time when we might see an update for the poll? Things are starting to die down here.

Yeah, probably in the next few days I'll update it, and probably suspend the poll too. No new votes are coming in, and all the new ones are just silly +1/2 group voting among the same people.

 

[Rasgar]

Never a problem man.

@ Rasgar Hey, you and I haven't had a good Ray discussion in a while. Any ideas you would like to pitch at me?

Sadly I don't really have any other ideas. I feel like everything has been covered pretty well. I'm not so good at coming up with a movelist anyway.

 

[Solbliminal]

Sadly I don't really have any other ideas. I feel like everything has been covered pretty well. I'm not so good at coming up with a movelist anyway.

Do you still plan on making that video to show off the listed moves from Custom Robo?

 

[Rasgar]

Do you still plan on making that video to show off the listed moves from Custom Robo?

Whoops. Honestly, I totally forgot about that. Hopefully I can get to it some time soon.

 

[Solbliminal]

Whoops. Honestly, I totally forgot about that. Hopefully I can get to it some time soon.

Well when you get the chance, it will help me finish up this moveset. A lot of the moves I've researched need visual explanation and it is pretty hard to find specific footage of Custom Robo.

 

[lordvaati]

Yeah, probably in the next few days I'll update it, and probably suspend the poll too. No new votes are coming in, and all the new ones are just silly +1/2 group voting among the same people.

.......

.........but I voted

But hey, a relaunch of the old poll would be cool, since all the requests for Waluigi and the like increased. Asks since you're here let's get this elephant out of the way: is Dracula a valid vote option or no?

 

[CardiganBoy]

So what's the verdict on Dark Samus?

If Ridley ends up in SSB4, then Dark Samus could have more possibilities.

 

[Anti Guy]

.......

.........but I voted

But hey, a relaunch of the old poll would be cool, since all the requests for Waluigi and the like increased. Asks since you're here let's get this elephant out of the way: is Dracula a valid vote option or no?

I recorded your vote. And no, he isn't/

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

I think I found Waluigi's new Up Tilt.

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When I saw this in Mario Party 3 again, I could not stop laughing. That is just too perfect.

It could be a flip kick sorta like Lucas? Probably not, but I gotta get this in somehow. Maybe even change our current up smash.

EDIT: What his Up Smash (?) could look like (minus the tornado effect)

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[arcticfox8]

That foot hitbox would be HUGE. Waluigi confirmed broken.

 

[Solbliminal]

I think I found Waluigi's new Up Tilt.

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When I saw this in Mario Party 3 again, I could not stop laughing. That is just too perfect.

It could be a flip kick sorta like Lucas? Probably not, but I gotta get this in somehow. Maybe even change our current up smash.

EDIT: What his Up Smash (?) could look like (minus the tornado effect)

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Switch the up tilt with the up smash and I would play him obsessively. 11/10 would main.

 

[THE_MAAFIA]

I recorded your vote. And no, he isn't/

I voted for Gray Fox, did you record that? Or is he not eligible?

 

[Solbliminal]

I voted for Gray Fox, did you record that? Or is he not eligible?

Gray Fox is eligible, but his 3rd Party character status makes him pretty much set at Sonic Tier in negative votes.

 

[Seismic Floss]

My votes are for:
Lyn
Palutena
Ridley
Isaac
Saki

 

[THE_MAAFIA]

Gray Fox is eligible, but his 3rd Party character status makes him pretty much set at Sonic Tier in negative votes.

I'd rather have Gray fox x200 more times then any sonic charcter, thanks for the info

 

[Spire]

I'd rather have Great Fox than Gray Fox.

Also, Lyn and Goroh > Gray Fox. Weird... including Kat & Ana, we had 4 (5) Katana-wielding ATs in Brawl, yet zero playable katana users. Hopefully SSB4 gets Takamaru and settles this issue!

 

[Solbliminal]

I'd rather have Great Fox than Gray Fox.

Also, Lyn and Goroh > Gray Fox. Weird... including Kat & Ana, we had 4 (5) Katana-wielding ATs in Brawl, yet zero playable katana users. Hopefully SSB4 gets Takamaru and settles this issue!

Spire appears to liven up the thread. I honesty wouldn't mind Lyn for P:M, but if the whole "Fire Emblem reps" argument is still a problem, I can sympathize. But if Takamaru is deconfirmed for Smash 4, there is always a chance for him in P:M as well. That solves the problem of having a new series rep and having a Katana user.

Personally I think there is a lack of robo in the roster. I need me some Ray or Sukapon (but mostly Ray). Get that R.O.B. outta here. We need REAL toy robots yo.

Also, this thread as a severe lack of "The King". You should show us your moves Spire.

 

[THE_MAAFIA]

I'd rather have Great Fox than Gray Fox.

Also, Lyn and Goroh > Gray Fox. Weird... including Kat & Ana, we had 4 (5) Katana-wielding ATs in Brawl, yet zero playable katana users. Hopefully SSB4 gets Takamaru and settles this issue!

I can understand why you might not like gray fox, but I really thing he has move set potential, maybe if you play Metal Gear Solid you'll like him more
Edit: Never mind what I said, I'm not a good motivational speaker so I'm not gonna try to change any one's opinions, carry on

 

[Solbliminal]

I can understand why you might not like gray fox, but I really thing he has move set potential, maybe if you play Metal Gear Solid you'll like him more ^-^

Almost every single eligible character has moveset potential. It is a matter of preference and what the character offers to the table. Having played some of the Metal Gear Solid series and Metal Gear Rising, I found Gray Fox to be overrated and Raiden to be a superior character. That is just my preference. And having never played Fire Emblem, I still find Lyn to be an appealing character. More so than Gray Fox, especially when added to the problem of him being a 3rd Party Character vs A Nintendo Character.

 

[Anti Guy]

I can understand why you might not like gray fox, but I really thing he has move set potential, maybe if you play Metal Gear Solid you'll like him more ^-^

Yeah, like Solbliminal said, "move set potential" means nothing in the world of Smash Bros. They take any character from racecar drivers to 2D characters to peripheral toys to villagers and give them moves. I don't think that's ever been a criteria for being a character.

 

[THE_MAAFIA]

I'm sorry, i just wanted to convince him but i guess that's not a good start

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

Anti Guy did bring up a good point. Moveset potential means nothing. Look at Falcon, a racer with no visible fighting experience prior to smash, and then smash created his knee of justice. I will have to take that into consideration when I try to make a PM viable Waluigi one of these days. Not everything has to come from a game, it can be made up as long as it fits the character. (Another thing I will take note of.)

 

[Cool Blue]

Anti Guy did bring up a good point. Moveset potential means nothing. Look at Falcon, a racer with no visible fighting experience prior to smash, and then smash created his knee of justice. I will have to take that into consideration when I try to make a PM viable Waluigi one of these days. Not everything has to come from a game, it can be made up as long as it fits the character. (Another thing I will take note of.)

So you are saying that it is really just the character that matters, not the moveset?
Seems kind of ironic because you are constantly showing off ides for Waluigi's potential moveset...

 

[Shin F.]

So you are saying that it is really just the character that matters, not the moveset?
Seems kind of ironic because you are constantly showing off ides for Waluigi's potential moveset...

There's a difference between having the potential for a moveset and having potential for a unique moveset, which is what most of us want.

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

I have never been good at arguing or debates... :S Ironically despite my name I am pretty shy. On forums or irl. I just wanna make the best PM waluigi possible. Sorry for being a contradicting person if that is what I was...

 

[Shin F.]

I have never been good at arguing or debates... :S Ironically despite my name I am pretty shy. On forums or irl. I just wanna make the best PM waluigi possible. Sorry for being a contradicting person if that is what I was...

There's nothing wrong with wanting to share unique ideas for a moveset while acknowledging that the potential for one isn't much of a factor in whether they're chosen.

 

[Cool Blue]

I have never been good at arguing or debates... :S Ironically despite my name I am pretty shy. On forums or irl. I just wanna make the best PM waluigi possible. Sorry for being a contradicting person if that is what I was...

It's ok.
Just realize that you might confuse some people as to what your message is.

 

[TheNotSoShyGuy]

There's nothing wrong with wanting to share unique ideas for a moveset while acknowledging that the potential for one isn't much of a factor in whether they're chosen.

Yeah, you're right. I'll just continue my part of trying to create a solid/fun/viable/unique moveset for Waluigi. If PMBR contact me saying that they want me to be the lead Waluigi designer (even though that is like a bajillion to one), that would be a huge dream come true, since before I wanted to become a professional video editor, I wanted to be a game designer, Doing something with one of my favorite characters in one of my favorite fighting games would just be amazing. Time to figure out what to do next.

 

[Cool Blue]

It's ok.
Just be careful what you say on the internet. People can get the wrong message.