Neon Ness
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Wtf? I want to see BB Hood, not some small half-naked bearded man.
They need to hurry up and announce more characters I care about.
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They need to hurry up and announce more characters I care about.
_clinton
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**** you, Sir Arthur would kick BB Hood's head in canon wise.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
I have no idea wtf you two are talking about...
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
i dont think anyone does...
woot first tourny is tomorrow.
woot first tourny is tomorrow.
Neon Ness
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Psshh, I don't care about canon. I just care about dat chip damaaage. I'll be disappointed if she doesn't return though, seriously.**** you, Sir Arthur would kick BB Hood's head in canon wise.
Admittedly though I have never played Ghosts n Goblins. I hear it's fun but insanely difficult.
_clinton
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It has fetish fuel for starters.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
anyone for wifi? boredom is not the answer to the question to which none of us have asked but still know.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
i was just about to get on. lemme add you real quick and we can play some
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
i get gimped so freaking much lol
GG's clint, i wasnt doin so good but it was fun.
yes i sucked majorly lol, but oh well. i think i improved a bit when i started thinking as opposed to mashing xD
GG's clint, i wasnt doin so good but it was fun.
yes i sucked majorly lol, but oh well. i think i improved a bit when i started thinking as opposed to mashing xD
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
haha yeah, i cant play ness on wifi worth a crap, i wasnt too bad w/ oli though except for my recovering cuz of the freaking lag, doesn't make up for the gimping though :/
Anyway man, was fun, GGs
Anyway man, was fun, GGs
_clinton
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My favorite moves with Olimar are those spin attack things with Nair, Utilt, then Usmash, Uair, Dsmash. Also, Olimar's purple Pikmin Usmash is pretty much around Fox's Usmash in power, and Olimar has a set up to it with a fast falling Nair.
So, I've had the 1st Pikmin game now since I was 16 or so ^_^
So, I've had the 1st Pikmin game now since I was 16 or so ^_^
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
yeah i know all that stuff haha i main him, i just wasnt thinking and therefor wasnt using most of it. i tried to pitch a tent and camp a little bit, but i've never really been one for the outdoors.... (i.e. i failed miserably xD)
lol i suicided so many times then you jumped off, i woulda done the same... except you didnt suicide at all... but yeah your oli was pretty good.
lol i suicided so many times then you jumped off, i woulda done the same... except you didnt suicide at all... but yeah your oli was pretty good.
_clinton
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Thanks, I try to be good at playing as every character because it will help me in fighting them.
I can't play worth **** though as Peach, MK, Diddy, and several others.
On another note though, your connection wasn't the worst one I've ever had to deal with, oh no it was quite the opposite.
I can't play worth **** though as Peach, MK, Diddy, and several others.
On another note though, your connection wasn't the worst one I've ever had to deal with, oh no it was quite the opposite.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
yeah im absolutely terrible with peach and snake, idk why im so bad with snake, but i am... i just cant stand slow characters, although ganon is an exception that i use when i want to have fun xD but yeah you were good with just about everyone you used.
anyway im gonna hit the sack, gotta get those z's in if i wanna go camping at the tourney tomorrow lol.
GGs man.
anyway im gonna hit the sack, gotta get those z's in if i wanna go camping at the tourney tomorrow lol.
GGs man.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
I've never been one for tents, campfires, and s'mores. Too boring...
Yink
The Robo-PSIentist
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
Why do bad things always happen to Yink... 
Yink
The Robo-PSIentist
Yeah she was my age too...which is really creepy to think about.
We did everything together when we were kids too...this is kinda how I feel:
Sorry..
We did everything together when we were kids too...this is kinda how I feel:
Sorry..
Waael
The PK Thunder Ω Specialist
IT'S BECAUSE YOU ARE A GIRL! D:
And I'm sorry about your cousin Yink. : (
I haven't been feeling great this week either. @.@
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
wow yink im really sorry
hey guys i got fricken pwned by a ness at the tourney haha but it was just me playing really really stupid as olimar, wasnt really thinking and i got pkfired left and right lol. after that i played ok, haha i did doubles and we tried one game with me as ness and lost horribly xD
I played a lot of friendlies and some of them i used ness on, fun stuff.
overall i felt that i learn a crap ton today and it was a good first tourney.
Once again yink that really freaking sucks and im so sorry to hear about your cousin.
hey guys i got fricken pwned by a ness at the tourney haha but it was just me playing really really stupid as olimar, wasnt really thinking and i got pkfired left and right lol. after that i played ok, haha i did doubles and we tried one game with me as ness and lost horribly xD
I played a lot of friendlies and some of them i used ness on, fun stuff.
overall i felt that i learn a crap ton today and it was a good first tourney.
Once again yink that really freaking sucks and im so sorry to hear about your cousin.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
We all have our burdens to bear. Yink's got this, she's a tough one. <3
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
guys i've decided im only seconding ness now, i really suck with him
i agree with dajay.
i agree with dajay.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
Olimar sucks though, he's not as good as people think he is. Trust me, I put a decent amount of time into Olimar.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
no he is awesome but he can get gimped super easily.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
Not only that but he has no grab super armor, his pikmin attacks have little priority, and he gets ***** hardcore once a character gets next to him. This is why Peach and Luigi **** Olimar, they focus on getting in close to wreck him with the close combat game and they possess high priority aerials to get in.
If people learned to exploit these weaknesses with their characters, Olimar wouldn't be as overhyped as he is.
If people learned to exploit these weaknesses with their characters, Olimar wouldn't be as overhyped as he is.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
MK ***** everyone, old news.
My point is even random mid tiers can **** Olimar, who people think is very high tier. Olimar deserves at most bottom of C tier. People just need to learn to properly exploit his very exploitable weaknesses.
My point is even random mid tiers can **** Olimar, who people think is very high tier. Olimar deserves at most bottom of C tier. People just need to learn to properly exploit his very exploitable weaknesses.
BluePSI
Smash Champion
Someone remind me to post here more, I missed you guys
Jiffyboob
Smash Lord
Some random mid tiers **** Wario as well. Should he be way lower because of it?
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
there ya go jiffy.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
dajay, have you ever seen an olimar with a freaking C-STICK!!??! ITS FRICKEN OWNAGE IN A **** DISH. dash>usmash>death (unless its a white, in which case that situation would never happen, a smart oli would side b or whistle to get a better pikmin first) getting gimped is not really a problem for an experienced olimar either, there are many ways around it: good di, whistle, purple pikmin throw, etc.
his grab game *****. olimar's comboability is freaking insane, from a down throw there are at least 3 nearly guaranteed combo's from it. he can get you from 0-60 with one combo if done right, his juggling game *****, he can keep you in the air by a simple uair>nair to mess up airdodging, and if you get close to the ground usmash pwns you. His camping game *****, his killing game *****, and his matchups are not nearly as bad as you think they are.
Olimar totally ***** at close combat, idk what you're talking about there. utilt, all his smashes, (especially usmash, it comes out so quick...) GRAB, sh nair or fair or bair, jab (not as likely, but still an ok option.) AND RETREATING PIVOT GRAB, which is crazy long. all in all, people get freaking ***** by olimar all the time, and the only real matchup that he has trouble with is mk because he cant really camp well. In other words, he definitely deserves the place in the tierlist that he's at.
his grab game *****. olimar's comboability is freaking insane, from a down throw there are at least 3 nearly guaranteed combo's from it. he can get you from 0-60 with one combo if done right, his juggling game *****, he can keep you in the air by a simple uair>nair to mess up airdodging, and if you get close to the ground usmash pwns you. His camping game *****, his killing game *****, and his matchups are not nearly as bad as you think they are.
Olimar totally ***** at close combat, idk what you're talking about there. utilt, all his smashes, (especially usmash, it comes out so quick...) GRAB, sh nair or fair or bair, jab (not as likely, but still an ok option.) AND RETREATING PIVOT GRAB, which is crazy long. all in all, people get freaking ***** by olimar all the time, and the only real matchup that he has trouble with is mk because he cant really camp well. In other words, he definitely deserves the place in the tierlist that he's at.
Dajayman
Banned via Administration
Olimar's only strength lies in his range. His grabs in particular are what make him a good character, as they have range and have god priority (the type of priority that in unafffected by anything and doesn't affect anything).
And no, his close range options are awful. If his jab combo was actually guaranteed (second hit can be powershielded pretty easily) he'd have only an okay defense. Grabs up close is punishable with a dodge, grabs are meant to be spaced. And any tilt/sh aerial is too slow for the characters who **** Olimar up close (Falco, Luigi, Peach, Lucario, Captain Falcon, Ike, Ganon, etc.). Olimar has to play keep away the entire game, otherwise he's in danger of getting seriously hurt.
Olimar's dthrow grab combos are NOT guaranteed. While it limits your opponent to a few options (dj, airdodge, a defensive aerial), you have to properly read your opponent in order to followup with other moves. Smart people can escape it with only taking the dthrow damage.
You guys misunderstand me again. I'm not saying he's a bad character, but I'm just tired of people thinking he's a really amazing character. Like I said, he can go to the bottom of C tier, which would only mean he'd drop a couple a spots.
Wario has much better strengths than Olimar, which allow him to compete with the top tier and any other characters. In my opinion, Wario's strengths (aerial mobility, high priority/damage, strong KO power) protect his weaknesses (lack of range and/or speed on his moves, grab release shenanigans) much better than Olimar's strengths protect his weaknesses.
And no, his close range options are awful. If his jab combo was actually guaranteed (second hit can be powershielded pretty easily) he'd have only an okay defense. Grabs up close is punishable with a dodge, grabs are meant to be spaced. And any tilt/sh aerial is too slow for the characters who **** Olimar up close (Falco, Luigi, Peach, Lucario, Captain Falcon, Ike, Ganon, etc.). Olimar has to play keep away the entire game, otherwise he's in danger of getting seriously hurt.
Olimar's dthrow grab combos are NOT guaranteed. While it limits your opponent to a few options (dj, airdodge, a defensive aerial), you have to properly read your opponent in order to followup with other moves. Smart people can escape it with only taking the dthrow damage.
You guys misunderstand me again. I'm not saying he's a bad character, but I'm just tired of people thinking he's a really amazing character. Like I said, he can go to the bottom of C tier, which would only mean he'd drop a couple a spots.
Wario has much better strengths than Olimar, which allow him to compete with the top tier and any other characters. In my opinion, Wario's strengths (aerial mobility, high priority/damage, strong KO power) protect his weaknesses (lack of range and/or speed on his moves, grab release shenanigans) much better than Olimar's strengths protect his weaknesses.
PSI.kick
Smash Lord
olimar has options to get his opponents away from him, them being close can be bad for him but not as bad as you say it is, olimar is still a viable character up close. and at low percents dthrow to fair is guaranteed, no matter what your opponent does. dthrow to usmash is nearly, and if you read them right you can get in a uair and then juggle, on top of that there is an insane amount of dthrow combos that pwn but aren't always guaranteed but hit a crap ton of the time. His nair is good, a land canceled one can combo straight into an usmash and other things as well. His attacks have plenty of priority, idk what you are talking about. Yellows have godly priority with almost every attack, and if a good olimar needs priority then they can get their yellows quite quickly. Olimar's red aerials kick major butt, his whites rack up insane amounts of damage when thrown and grab pummels, WHISTLE IS FREAKING AMAZING, does wario have super armor whenever he freaking wants to have it? didnt think so, fsmash cant be used very much by wario because he's in the air all the time, but olimar can use whistle whenever he wants to. purples kill so freaking early with fresh usmash, and they can easily keep opponents away by fsmashing or throwing them. Opponents rarely get close enough to olimar to harm him that much, and when they do get close then olimar can either **** them with a quick usmash, retreating pivot grab, sheild then usmash OoS, shield grab, dajay his close range options are way better than you think they are.
His grab combos are very good whether most of them are guaranteed or not, i hit with them over 50% of the time, and if i miss i will very rarely get punished for it because of my other options, but usually i don't go for them if i know they wont hit, if they di away from the dthrow then oli can just camp them some more or dash and read their airdodge/jump and do crap from there.
Olimar deserves where he is, and his weaknesses are very minor compared to his strengths. i understand why he isn't A tier but he definitely doesnt need to go down any farther, and if you still say that he does then talk to the BBR, they were the ones that found him to be a good character and decided to move him.
His grab combos are very good whether most of them are guaranteed or not, i hit with them over 50% of the time, and if i miss i will very rarely get punished for it because of my other options, but usually i don't go for them if i know they wont hit, if they di away from the dthrow then oli can just camp them some more or dash and read their airdodge/jump and do crap from there.
Olimar deserves where he is, and his weaknesses are very minor compared to his strengths. i understand why he isn't A tier but he definitely doesnt need to go down any farther, and if you still say that he does then talk to the BBR, they were the ones that found him to be a good character and decided to move him.
Eagleye893
Smash Champion
Why you guys arguing oli/wario on here?!
I agree with Dajay, to an extent. Oli has enough to keep himself guarded, but not to an extreme. Wario is better off, just because he has more tricks AND a good recovery for those who know how to use it well.
I agree with Dajay, to an extent. Oli has enough to keep himself guarded, but not to an extreme. Wario is better off, just because he has more tricks AND a good recovery for those who know how to use it well.