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Best Ness Outfit?


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Dajayman

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Everyone should just PSI Magnet more. Even you Eagayleye.

Also I desperately need your help Eagayle. I found my Windows XP CD and the folder it came in so I have the CD key too. I tried reinstalling it myself, but no dice. I need your computer brain (why do you gotta live in Naperville and not Chicago... DX). I could finally have a non-virus filled computer not running in safe mode.
 

Eagleye893

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Okay, first look online (using something you can find on the case for the model/type of the computer you have) and download all the lates drivers for your computer (everything that it shows) and also any drivers for expansion cards that may have been added (if you find the model or make of your computer, that should be fine). As a suggestion to find the type of computer, first get the general type of computer it would be classified as (like hp, Dell, etc and things like lenova, inspiron, or other types of names used for a specific type of computer). Also, right click on my computer and go to properties. It should list something of the computer under general tab saying either the computers name or model. Google the type of computer, company, and model number and "drivers" following those. Download all the stuff...

I'll tell you other steps later, but you need the drivers on a flashdrive or disc or sd card or something....
 

Levitas

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woah

putting executables on a flashdrive when you're trying to get rid of viruses is kinda ;-_-

make a thread in the computer subforum, they'll help you out
 

Dajayman

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What's ;-_- supposed to mean Levi? Eagayleye is my computer subforum. XD

Eagayle, my computer doesn't read SD cards/flash drives anymore. What do you suggest?
I apparently have a "Dell Dimension DE051".
 

Levitas

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some viruses copy themselves onto disks or into .exe files, so putting driver installers would be kinda silly if you're trying to avoid infection on the new one. Just note what drivers you need and download/install them fresh later.

...it's really slow in here today
 

*Tyson*

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Yeah, it is.

Often its easy to get busy and lose track of things. Hey Levitas you play any other games besides brawl?? Anyone here a Street Fighter fan? What about Starcraft and Diablo
 

Dajayman

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Tyson, you play StarCraft? Do you play UMS games? If you do, play Temple Siege with me sometime. I go by the name "Party_Hat_Cat" in US East and West.

Can either Eagayleye or Levi explain to me what drivers are?

It's only slow when I'm not around since all of you hate me. It's always active when I'm not around but once I come by it isn't. Now that I got internet browers working on my virus-filled PC and I can come here at anytime, there's no activity. ;_;
 

Arcade

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Arcade's a NMH hater.

Play me online sometime Arcade so I can defend NMH's honor.
Haters gonna hate.

That game makes me angry because it could have been awesome but they pulled it off so sloppily that it's just sad IMO.

I could play you online, but my internet hates With Friends or something because I mostly get red/orange connection dots, but when I play With Anyone it tends to not lag as much for some reason. If you want to try, though, I wouldn't mind getting my butt whooped.

Also, I just noticed that in Subspace Emissary levels, you run slower and don't jump as high. What in the world was the reason for that?
 

Eagleye893

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Levi means that downloading exe files is a bit shady..... but if it's taken directly from a manufacturers website, i don't see much problem with it.... Ok, it may be a bit shady if the person who created such viruses was really smart and could affect any programs of any sort attached to the computer......

BEFORE YOU DO ANYTHING, SAVE ALL EXTREMELY ESSENTIAL INFORMATION!!! I'm going to be telling you to wipe your Hard Disk and everything in it, so if you have anything that you don't want to lose or can't get back, back that up with whatever you have (external hard drive, Flash Drive, Burn a CD, ANYTHING you need to just get the most vital of information/data. Anything you can live without or can get back later just forget about) sure it doesn't seem reasonable to save data from a severely infected computer, which is why I said only extremely essential. If there isn't anything on your computer that you can't get back with either the internet or an install disc that you have lying around, you can just proceed. If you do have something that is unable to get back that is EXTREMELY Important to you (Like some special pieces of informatoin that can't be reproduced or pictures (not off the internet) or.... whatever), then get that on whatever extra stuff you have. I find it a bit difficult to believe that a USB flash drive is unusable to your computer.... but i guess i understand since you said you ran it in safe mode in order to function properly...... (if you do need to get information, boot windows with last known good configuration or "start windows normally" or whatever to have it boot with all the stuff it needs. THEN flash drives should work (keyword "should") and you can quickly copy over the vital info. Keep in mind that such files may contain malicious stuff...... although less likely....

I could give you a CD of the motherboard/video/other drivers at the next tournament/smashfest, but that may be in a long time. it'd be the most efficient way of ensuring that no malicious things make it to your computer after wiping it, but for convenience, i would say that it's better to just have you get the drivers off the manufacturer's website.

for the drivers:
This is all what'd be best to have
This is firmware (you shouldn't need to get this, but you can just update it later if you want)
This seems important to have updated after the previous....
This is good to have also (the first 2 (under applications) look a bit weird, but I'd get em anyways)
I recommend all of this stuff, (It's on the manufacturer's website for this type of computer.......) (some things aren't exactly NEEDED, like the firmware, which should already be on your mobo, but it's not a bad idea to just reinstall/update drivers for your computer)

YEAH, it would make a lot more sense if i could just give you a disc with all these drivers on them at the next tourney, but if you can't wait that long, you can go with this and potentially keep the harmful files like levi said....

Now after you get that to a CD, or find your Driver CD that came with your computer (I command you to do this if you know where the original stuff for your computer is; if you had the XP CD and other stuff, you most likely had the Driver CD with it), Boot your computer from the XP CD by having it in the computer from when you turn it on.......
---- If it doesn't boot to the disc and instead starts up like normal, the Boot priority is set to have the Hard Disk start before that which is in the Disc drive. You could boot in such a way by either going into your Bios (hit f2, del, or whatever button says "SETUP" as the computer is starting up), go into advanced settings (navigate with arrow keys), press enter on the Boot device priority option. In that, I suggest setting it to CD/DVD drive first, Hard Disk second, and anything else listed after that in any order (just to give the option of booting by those later without having to go back into the bios). If you don't feel like going into your bios, you could press.... I think its F8 (F12 maybe?) as the computer is starting up to get a menu of boot devices to start from and you can enter the option for your disc drive.
now just let it boot up and everything..... let it go about stuff until everything is loaded. when it gives you some options to choose from. just press enter from this, since i'm going to be instructing you to wipe your HD and reinstall anew and not repair it (repair is if XP, the operating system, is a complete failure). say that you agree to the license stuff..... as always..... in the next thing it should list some stuff at the top, show a box on the bottom with partitions, list things at the bar on the bottom saying to select that partition, delete, ...... Press D for the delete, then enter, then it should say L for delete on the next screen. Press L and wait for it to delete. After its done with that, it'll ask you to either create a partition for your drive just install XP or exit..... I'm assuming you won't need multiple partitions, but i remember in my computer repair class that we always just went to the partition thing, but in this case you can just press enter to install. It'll as which file format you want to do (it should have NTFS, so just do that). most people do quick format, but you can do it the regular way if you want to... it doesn't matter. It'll probably just go formatting, then start XP installation directly after (after refreshing my memory with a video from youtube, you just let the formatting go let it restart normally, yada yada and don't boot from the CD again so that it goes into the installation process). Follow the XP installation instructions.... when you get to the point where you get normal control of the OS, start installing the drivers that you got from your driver CD that came with your computer (or the CD with all the stuff on it)..... after all the drivers are installed, just restart your computer for the heck of it..... if everything goes right, it'll restart with all of your settings you put in, you can customize all that stuff, etc.

if you have any other devices that go with your computer, you can get drivers for them online....

Hopefully this all works as it should..... Just make sure you either have your driver disc that came with the computer before you start this process or get the drivers from the website on a disc (although the latter i wouldnt recommend because dell just frustrates me really badly.... the way they have everything laid out on their website makes little sense.... rather than just having all necessary drivers for the proper functioning of the computer in one section and all other random stuff elseware, they just jumble everything...)

I DON'T LIKE DELL!!!! OMG!!! THEY GET ON MY NERVES SO OFTEN!!!

EDIT: Yes, levi, i fully understand that the exe files containing the update stuff for his drivers could be potentially affected by an extremely malicious virus... I would highly recommend, dajayman, to just find the original driver disc that came with your computer to avoid the potential risk of tranfering such files over...... but i could also give you a disc if that is something you can't do for an equally lessened risk

EDIT2:
Dajayman, a driver is a piece of software to be used by a computer in order to operate a piece of hardware... your computer has firmware on the bios/cmos/whatever you call it chip that contains drivers to run all of the stuff you have, like your expansion slots, onboard ports, drives slots, ram, etc.

EDIT 3: i repeated myself a lot, so disregard that....
 

Levitas

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Well said, eagleye (if not concise, lol)

I don't really play any other games at a competitive level... I tend to stick to platformers/RPGs/adventure (a la metroid) and so on these days
 

Dajayman

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I found a Dell CD that's titled "Dell E196FP LCD Monitor User Documentation".

It also says "Drivers And User Documentation" at the top of the CD and it also says

"Contents:
  • HTML User Documentation
  • Drivers (INF, ICM, and CAT files)"
on the side of the CD. Is this that Driver CD I should be looking for?


I really wish you lived in Chicago so you could personally help me with this. Your giant blob of text is really intimidating. DX


Edit: Uhh, I'm a little weirded out. I went to my Control Panel > System > System Properties > Hardware > Device Manager, and there are NO drivers or anything displayed there. I even clicked "show hidden devices" and nothing. DX

Edit 2: I found the actual CD I think.

"Dell Dimension ResourceCD"


"Contents:
  • Device drivers
  • Diagnostics and utilities
  • Computer documentation"
Also I was reading my Dell Owner's Manual I found and under the drivers section it tells me to reinstall drivers using the Dell Dimension ResourceCD, which makes me believe this CD is the real deal.

Edit 3: I tried earlier to boot my computer using the Windows XP CD, but it said I am missing a file (<windows root>\system32\hall.dll) and it can't be booted. I can still boot my computer in normal mode (which causes it to freeze) or safe mode.
 

Eagleye893

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.... Ummmm.... Let's see.... Having a non-working xp boot disc is a bad sign for this...

Good! You got your driver disc, so you don't need to worry about that.

Now I wonder why your xp boot disc is missing a file.... It definitely shouldn't... If you boot up your computer (hard drive disk) and look at the cd, does it say 0kb free space? Normally CDs from major companies have All space filled in order to hold all of it's files... If it doesn't say 0kb free space, that may be a problem.... Go into the disc (explore after right clicking it... Or does it not auto-run? I'm not sure, but right click and look into it) and search for it!!! The disc might be a bit homo... Then if the xp disc doesn't have it, go into C:/(however you get to)/system32 or something similar and look for that hal.dll and copy it over to your xp disc... If there is a major flaw, meaning several more files are missing, just look for another xp disc. If you can't copy it over for some reason,or if you want to ensure it transfers over as safe as possible, You might need to go into recovery console and look for that missing file on your HDD and attempt to copy it over to the disc or just find a person who can lend you an xp disc. I don't understand why it would do that....

I feel like I forgot a major part of this procedure: zero-filling your hard drive. In order to ensure that little to no malicious files make it over to your new installation of xp, it'd be best to completely erase your HDD when going about this process. Now I don't remember of a great piece zero-filling software, so Im either going to do some research or ask my A+/Net+ teacher at school today for something I could find.

Best option for xp disc problem if my suggestion doesn't work is to find another. Wait out for a while until I get the best possible zerofilling program.
 

Dajayman

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Yes I did say NMH, I'm currently ranked 3rd best Assassin and I'm about to get #2 after I'm done catching some kitties. :3

Eagayle, there is 0 bytes free. So idk, maybe it's just my computer being lame? I might be wrong about the missing file, I might've tried booting something else and that's the error message I got. I can't remember if that was an error message I got for the XP CD boot. All I know for right now is that when I click on the XP CD Installation option, my computer simply reboots. :/

I also attempted to go into Recovery Console before, but everytime I try it goes into a command prompt (like my manual says it should) and I can't type anything ever.

Please get me a zero-filling program, I want to completely reset this badboy. I want everything to be completely fresh. Also I have NOTHING personal on this computer that I need saved. Everything can go, I backed up all my pics, music, vids, etc. on my external hard drive a year ago.
 

MrsSaturnandWatch

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Yes I did say NMH, I'm currently ranked 3rd best Assassin and I'm about to get #2 after I'm done catching some kitties. :3

Eagayle, there is 0 bytes free. So idk, maybe it's just my computer being lame? I might be wrong about the missing file, I might've tried booting something else and that's the error message I got. I can't remember if that was an error message I got for the XP CD boot. All I know for right now is that when I click on the XP CD Installation option, my computer simply reboots. :/

I also attempted to go into Recovery Console before, but everytime I try it goes into a command prompt (like my manual says it should) and I can't type anything ever.

Please get me a zero-filling program, I want to completely reset this badboy. I want everything to be completely fresh. Also I have NOTHING personal on this computer that I need saved. Everything can go, I backed up all my pics, music, vids, etc. on my external hard drive a year ago.
NHM 1? or 2? xD

Both are really fun
 

Eagleye893

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... your computah is ****ed up!

are you able to go into device manager? if so, go to start>control panel>admin tools>computer management, then click device manager in the menu on the right. go to disk drives and show the stuff in it. type the model number listed for the drive into google (or if it lists the manufacturer of that drive in device manager just tell me that) and the first option should have something about the hard drive and it's manufacturer (seagate, Fujitsu, samsung, Western digital, etc.). right now im looking at some forum that seems to be legit and could assist in providing reasonable..... actually, just give me the model # listed in device manager.... thatll be much easier.... then i'll give you the website to get the utility.... (be prepared with a burnable CD)
 

MrsSaturnandWatch

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NMH 1. I didn't even know there was a 2!!! Too bad 1 was given to me by my bro and I can't afford to buy new games.
Don't ever say you can't afford nice things

There's always the H word

a
c
k

but I fear mods will keep the black man down :'(

But definitely get NMH 2 when you get the chance

So
amazing

:p
 

Dajayman

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NOTHING shows when I go to the Device Manager, complete white. What can I do?! ;_;

Teach me how to hack through PMs so I can have nice things for free. XD
 

Levitas

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0_o Dajayman wow.

I hope you get things figured out...

Or rather, I hope the viruses haven't disabled your fan's drivers already leading to a melted CPU...
 

Eagleye893

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lol at levi's comment

..... that's not good at all.... are you sure you can't just..... run windows normally? that would make everything so much easier..... then you could look through all this stuff and see what stuff you actually do have.....

FKKKKKKKKK ..... really, it'd just be 10000000000000x easier if you just brought it to the next smashfest or tourney.... Working over the internet like this is really frustrating, especially when half of my options are ruled out by extreme computer fail.... I'd need to check several different things now, including hardware problems (just in case), since your computer seems to not cooperate with anything....

I don't think you really need drivers to run your fans.... I thought it was just power running through, since the fan starts basically every time except for if it's unplugged. It could be drivers..... but i feel it makes more sense if it's just power.....

EDIT: @levi: his computer is too high-tech for fans...... His CPU runs at extremely hot temperatures just to say "I'm to hot for even myself!!!"
 

PKNintendo

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How adorable.

Yink and Levitas have complimentary avatars.
:)


And BTW how awesome is Yink's avatar? It's freaking amazing. I wish I could get a live recording of that.

Hell, I can picture Snake saying it himself lolz.
 

Underload

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Ehh, finally, the weekend. I can slow things down now and enjoy myself, instead of being totally heckled by school. There might be a smashfest in my area tomorrow, if I go I'll try to get some videos of my Ness recorded.

Who's cool here besides Yink and Levitas, just so I know for the future?
 

Yink

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How adorable.

Yink and Levitas have complimentary avatars.
:)


And BTW how awesome is Yink's avatar? It's freaking amazing. I wish I could get a live recording of that.

Hell, I can picture Snake saying it himself lolz.
Thank you! :D Aren't they nice?

Ehh, finally, the weekend. I can slow things down now and enjoy myself, instead of being totally heckled by school. There might be a smashfest in my area tomorrow, if I go I'll try to get some videos of my Ness recorded.

Who's cool here besides Yink and Levitas, just so I know for the future?
Everyone. :mad:
 

Dajayman

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It's hard to lug my computer with me to Kirk-fests and tournaments because I take public transportation. I blame you for not living closer to Chicago Eagayle, then you could simply visit me and do your work here. And my fans are still working, thankfully. XD

I don't need need other people to tell me I'm cool. I already know this, thank you though.
 
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