Rainbladez
Smash Rookie
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- Aug 2, 2009
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Hello everyone. I'd to share my thoughts and observations on what I've been noticing. I was watching two sheik videos and noticed that Sheik's needles turned her opponent around (or turned her opponent in the opposite direction, if you will), but not in a way that the needles actually have a property that can do that.
1:14 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX65n-h8JFk
and
2:12 and 4:20 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAgOL_OGjWQ
From the first video, Marth is off stage and trying to return back to the platform. Sheik jumps and shoots out a needle (diagonally of course) and, as Marth jumps, Marth's back or back of his head hits the needle (or the needle hits his back, whichever you prefer). This, in turn, causes Marth to turn to the opposite direction and, from what we know, hitting someone in front of you makes the toward you. When the needle was in front of Marth, the needle was facing the front of him. When the needle continued a little behind him, the needle was facing the back of him, so when it hit his back, Marth faced toward the needle. As this happens unexpectedly for Marth, he uses his recovery move, misses the ledge, falls, and dies.
In the second video of 2:12, Meta Knight is off stage in the air. Sheik shoots out his needles and Meta Knight (getting hit) turns to the opposite direction. The thing that is different here is that the needles seem to hit either the bottom of him or perhaps behind him near the bottom (meaning probably behind his feet or legs)
Continuing from the second video of 4:20, the same situation happens, but instead Meta Knight is in the air on stage.
From my own testing, I went to practice mode and set my opponent (Sonic) to "Jump" mode. When I was on the ground, I shot needles at the times Sonic was coming down from a jump so that if his feet or the back of his feet hit the needles, it would possibly turn him around. With continous attempts, he turned around. The next idea was to jump and shoot needles at Sonic while he was jumping to see if I can hit the back of his head (or the back of him) to get the same result. Once again, with continous attempts, he turned around.
In summary, I was thinking if there could be possibly "strategies" with this unless the observations are proven false (in other words, I could be overanalyzing or crazy lol); furthermore, if all of this is true, then maybe this is not restricted to the needles projectile.
Thank you for your time and I look forward to seeing your thoughts.
1:14 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX65n-h8JFk
and
2:12 and 4:20 in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAgOL_OGjWQ
From the first video, Marth is off stage and trying to return back to the platform. Sheik jumps and shoots out a needle (diagonally of course) and, as Marth jumps, Marth's back or back of his head hits the needle (or the needle hits his back, whichever you prefer). This, in turn, causes Marth to turn to the opposite direction and, from what we know, hitting someone in front of you makes the toward you. When the needle was in front of Marth, the needle was facing the front of him. When the needle continued a little behind him, the needle was facing the back of him, so when it hit his back, Marth faced toward the needle. As this happens unexpectedly for Marth, he uses his recovery move, misses the ledge, falls, and dies.
In the second video of 2:12, Meta Knight is off stage in the air. Sheik shoots out his needles and Meta Knight (getting hit) turns to the opposite direction. The thing that is different here is that the needles seem to hit either the bottom of him or perhaps behind him near the bottom (meaning probably behind his feet or legs)
Continuing from the second video of 4:20, the same situation happens, but instead Meta Knight is in the air on stage.
From my own testing, I went to practice mode and set my opponent (Sonic) to "Jump" mode. When I was on the ground, I shot needles at the times Sonic was coming down from a jump so that if his feet or the back of his feet hit the needles, it would possibly turn him around. With continous attempts, he turned around. The next idea was to jump and shoot needles at Sonic while he was jumping to see if I can hit the back of his head (or the back of him) to get the same result. Once again, with continous attempts, he turned around.
In summary, I was thinking if there could be possibly "strategies" with this unless the observations are proven false (in other words, I could be overanalyzing or crazy lol); furthermore, if all of this is true, then maybe this is not restricted to the needles projectile.
Thank you for your time and I look forward to seeing your thoughts.