need help with side b

[hyperhopper]

I just cant use it.

sometimes i get only 1 or 2 hits, rarley do i make it to three

often whenever i try to use the up or down option, i do a dolphin slash or a guard

please help!

 

[Miggz]

What I do is press forward B once then I let go of the B button and allow the control stick to return to neutral and then proceed to do forward/up/down B again. That's probably the problem, you aren't allowing the control stick to return to neutral.

 

[hyperhopper]

thats it! thank you very much

 

[Miggz]

No prob, bob.

 

[AceDudeyeah]

Yo, yo, yo, WHAT??

Return to neutral position??

You talking about recovering or dolphin slash multi-hits?

 

[Miggz]

Yo, yo, yo, WHAT??

Return to neutral position??

You talking about recovering or dolphin slash multi-hits?

I'm guessing he meant dancing blade. He didn't say what he was using the move for, but it sounded pretty clear to me that he meant in an offensive method.

Oh and neutral position meant returning the joy stick to its original position as if you aren't touching it all. =P

 

[elvenarrow3000]

You don't have to return it to the neutral position, you just have to get the timing down.

 

[hyperhopper]

IM SO CONFUSED



:veryconfu

 

[MaritLage227]

Now practise in mid air to b> b> b-down meteor. very overlooked tactic. it's hard because b> stops momentum and lifts you up a bit.

 

[hyperhopper]

all i want to do is on the ground get all four hits of dancing blade and be able to change which type of hit it is

 

[I.B]

Try doing it in rhythm, it helps.

 

[Miggz]

Hyperhopper I thought you said you got it. =P

 

[hyperhopper]

i ment that i knew what you were saying, but it didnt work


what is the secret rythm i need to use?

 

[Miggz]

Man these kinds of things are tough to explain over the internet. Not to mention I do the move on an subconscious level. OH, try this! Maybe you can rely on the actual sounds Marth makes. After the first sound try pressing forward B immediately after that! If that does work I'll have to put my game on and quickly do the move and reply back with how I am doing it. lol

 

[elvenarrow3000]

Sword Dance

note: consecutive attacks start right
away when pressed in the window

--F1--
Total: 29
Hit: 6-8
Window for attack 2: 9-26

--F2--
Total: 40
Hit: 14-16
Window for attack 3: 17-33

--U2--
Total: 40
Hit: 12-15
Window for attack 3: 17-32

--F3--
Total: 46
Hit: 11-14
Window for attack 4: 16-37

--U3--
Total: 46
Hit: 13-17
Window for attack 4: 18-38

--D3--
Total: 46
Hit: 15-18
Window for attack 4: 19-35

--F4--
Total: 50
Hit: 23-26

--U4--
Total: 50
Hit: 20-25

--D4--
Total: 60
Hit: 13-15, 19-21, 25-27, 31-33,
37-38

Don't start the next attack unless you're in a window.

 

[hyperhopper]

O.O

this means nothing to me

i have no clue about this

 

[HiIH]

SideB>SideB>A>A

After the initial Side+B you can use A instead. Until you get used to it, you could do that so you don't dolphin slash on accident (shrug)

 

[Miggz]

Sword Dance

note: consecutive attacks start right
away when pressed in the window

--F1--
Total: 29
Hit: 6-8
Window for attack 2: 9-26

--F2--
Total: 40
Hit: 14-16
Window for attack 3: 17-33

--U2--
Total: 40
Hit: 12-15
Window for attack 3: 17-32

--F3--
Total: 46
Hit: 11-14
Window for attack 4: 16-37

--U3--
Total: 46
Hit: 13-17
Window for attack 4: 18-38

--D3--
Total: 46
Hit: 15-18
Window for attack 4: 19-35

--F4--
Total: 50
Hit: 23-26

--U4--
Total: 50
Hit: 20-25

--D4--
Total: 60
Hit: 13-15, 19-21, 25-27, 31-33,
37-38

Don't start the next attack unless you're in a window.

Yeah what he said. Haha

 

[IrArby]

Now practise in mid air to b> b> b-down meteor. very overlooked tactic. it's hard because b> stops momentum and lifts you up a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOMp6V-Abw

ol is this what your talking about ^^^ somewhere around 5mins.

Also, theres a part towards the end where he lets you hear the controller as he does some Side B stuff so you can get the timing. Probably the best way to explain it. Its around 6mins 30secs or so. Most of the rest of the vid isn't that useful. I thought this thing was really informative to competitive Marth at first. oh lolz. At least the songs pretty good.

EDIT: SH*T I forgot to include the vid. Its in now.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

How can any Smash player not know about frames?

 

[hyperhopper]

i know about frames, i just cant easily translate it into real life tome

hard to graassp that 45 frames = 3/4 of a second

 

[Binx]

Its just timing, but what helped me is using the A button instead of the B button after the initial hit. You just have to have a slow pause between the first and second one then another slow pause for that and so on, the timing is pretty straitforward.

 

[hyperhopper]

how woud the timing go compared to what he says?

1st(hump)
2nd(tate)
3rd(toriah)
4th(hah)

 

[Binx]

they are between 1/3 and 1/2 of a second appart, anywhere in the window just hit b again.

 

[IrArby]

Well I thought the vid would be helpful for timing since you can hear but I guess not.

 

[hyperhopper]

what vid
?

 

[hyperhopper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jY3OpJUnc

wtf!
how?

 

[Miggz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-jY3OpJUnc

wtf!
how?

Flip, wrong game and everything.

 

[hyperhopper]

0.0 lol





^^^^^^ you said flip!

 

[Heart Break Kid]

I dnt know the first thing about frames except that Foxes shine is 1 right?

 

[IrArby]

Its supposed to be this vid actually I just totally forgot to put it in. Huh My bad. LIke the earlier post says around 6mins 30 secs he starts doing DancingBlade with his timings. Sorry about that I was wondering why no one said anything about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYOMp6V-Abw

 

[Miggz]

0.0 lol





^^^^^^ you said flip!

LOL.

Yeah we use that term pretty loosely here in Bermuda. For example:

* What the flip?
* Fackin' flip!
*Bi flip right off!
* Flip you!
* FFFFLLLLLIIIPPPP! Did you see that?! Flip!

ROFL. Sounds funny when I type em out.

 

[elvenarrow3000]

I dnt know the first thing about frames except that Foxes shine is 1 right?

You're crazy.

Hyperhopper, just keep trying it. It's pretty freaking hard to explain when you have no time frame to grasp.

 

[ComboTurtle]

yer you sorta must have alot of problems if you're having trouble with side b

 

[hyperhopper]

lol

the most advanced technique i can do is Dash attack cancelling / snakesliding/mortar sliding in brawl LOL

 

[Miggz]

lol

the most advanced technique i can do is Dash attack cancelling / snakesliding/mortar sliding in brawl LOL

Yuck, don't you dare mention that game in these threads.

 

[Binx]

Foxes shine connects on frame 3 I believe.

 

[hyperhopper]

Yuck, don't you dare mention that game in these threads.

why not? why dont you just say the name?

 

[Miggz]

why not? why dont you just say the name?

I'm only kidding, Brawl is aight. I'm guessing a lot more people play it now since they made Brawl +.

 

[hyperhopper]

what codes do you use? (for brawl+)