BigManFanelli
Smash Rookie
- Joined
- Aug 25, 2006
- Messages
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Hello all.
Now, before I'm dismissed as a n00b who knows nothing about SSB, I promise you I've been playing the game for quite a while, I just never took the time to join Smashboards. Now I am here, and I hope my contributions don't make me sound like an idiot
Now, on to business:
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SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL HYPOTHESIS
40-50 characters seems to be the consensus, I’m going with 45.
2-3 of them will be third-party (including Snake)
Sakurai said that not everyone will be returning
4 new characters and 1 character variation have been announced as of 8/22/06
MELEE CHARACTERS:
Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi
Ness, Captain Falcon, Link, Young Link, Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf, Samus, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game And Watch, Pikachu
Pichu, Jigglypuff, Fox, Falco, Donkey Kong
Kirby, Mewtwo, Marth, Roy, Doctor Mario
REPRESENTATION IN MELEE BY GAME:
Mario (5), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (2)
Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), Metroid (1), Kirby (1), Ice Climbers (1),
F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1)
ALREADY ANNOUCED CHARACTERS TO BRAWL (4):
Meta-Knight, Pit, Wario, Snake
Zero Suit Samus is not a “true character addition” according to smashbros.com,
I’ll explain how I think she’ll be accessed at the end.
UPDATED REPRESENTATION CHART::
Mario (5), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (2),
Metroid (1), Kirby (2), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), Ice Climbers (1),
F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1), Kid Icarus (1),
Wario (1), Third-Party (1)
PREDICTIONS:
Note: These are only my opinions based on who I think fits best into the SSB world.
I understand that like everyone else, I have about as much say as to what happens with Brawl as the next guy: none.
I am not for or against any specific characters, I’ll be playing the game no matter who’s in it.
If you don’t see your character preferences, I’m sorry to disappoint you.
CHARACTERS FROM MELEE THAT WILL BE CUT:
Roy - Fire Emblem has many more characters that not only will fit in SSBB, but also are more popular that Roy.
Roy seems to have only made Melee to advertise FE6, so he is definitely expendable. (Fire Emblem at 1, total at 28)
Young Link - I don’t really see this as a cut, more of a replacement.
I can’t help but think that that stupid rumor will come (partly) true and WW Link will replace Young Link.
(Zelda at 3, total at 27)
Pichu - A Pikachu clone that damages itself. Need I say more? (Pokemon at 3, total at 26)
Ice Climbers - As cool as they were, there are other retro characters that deserve a shot in Brawl,
Pit being the first. (Ice Climbers at 0, total at 25)
Doctor Mario - This really sucks, especially since he’s my second best character in Melee,
but I just don’t see him moving on to Brawl, believe me, I’ve tried. (Mario at 4, total at 24)
UPDATED REPRESENTATION LIST:
Mario (4), The Legend of Zelda (3), Pokemon (3), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (1),
Metroid (1), Kirby (2), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1), Kid Icarus (1),
Wario (1), Third-Party (1)
ADDITIONS:
Diddy Kong - Easily the best pick from the Donkey Kong franchise,
Diddy is, in some minds, a lock. No argument here. (Donkey Kong at 2, total at 25)
Wind Waker Link - See Young Link’s cut. (Zelda at 4, total at 26)
Sigurd - The most popular FE lord in Japan, and one rumored to have been one of the final cuts for Melee.
(Fire Emblem at 2, total at 27)
Krystal - I was sketchy, but now I think she’ll get in to bolster female character presence,
and because she’s got that wicked staff, so a moveset shouldn’t be hard. (Star Fox at 3, total at 28)
Ike - The Sigurd of the USA, partly because his Fire Emblem game was the first American Fire Emblem
on a non-portable US console. His US popularity can’t be ignored. (Fire Emblem at 3, total at 29)
Captain Olimar - PIKMIN ATTACK!!! Of all the possibilities I’ve heard for Brawl, I think Olimar
is the easiest to transfer into SSB. Lots of Pikmin attacks. (Pikmin at 1, total at 30)
Jeff - There are many within the Earthbound/MOTHER universe that could join Ness
(Poo and Lucas come to mind) but as far as important characters in the universally-known Earthbound storyline go,
Jeff is the best bet to me. (Earthbound/MOTHER at 2, total at 31)
King DeDeDe - If Meta-Knight is in, why can’t the original Kirby villian get in too? I
personally like DeDeDe more than Meta-Knight, but that’s a different story. (Kirby at 3, total at 32)
Balloon Fighter - Another character rumored to have been one of the final Melee cuts,
this guy would represent the retro world quite well. (Balloon Fighter at 1, total at 33)
Little Mac - Again, a retro character that would be perfect for the SSB universe.
He’s a boxer, for cripes sake, he was created to fight. (Punch-Out at 1, total at 34)
Lip - Japanese representation in SSB is, well, Fire Emblem, so putting Lip in would give us American types
another taste of what’s not making it across the Pacific. (Panel de Pon at 1, total at 35)
Sonic - I’ve heard more debates on Sonic than anybody else (except maybe Geno), but in all honesty,
I think Sonic would definitely work in SSBB. Although it is true that Sega was not always
loyal to Nintendo like, say, Capcom, Sonic is a VERY popular character, so his inclusion into Brawl
would be a very popular move (Third-Party at 2, total at 36)
Samurai Goroh - F-Zero needs more representation, and Goroh was in the Melee introduction,
so who better from F-Zero than Goroh? (F-Zero at 2, total at 37)
Ridley - Easily the most recognized Metroid villain. Some people say that Ridley would be too big of a
character for Brawl, but Bowser was huge in Mario 64 and not so huge in Melee, so why can’t the
same happen to Ridley? (Metroid at 2, total at 38)
Toad - At first I was apprehensive about Toad, but now I think Toad would be a really cool and unique
addition to Brawl. His moveset would be awesome. (Mario at 5, total at 39)
Petey Piranha - A new bad guy in the Mario world, he could definitely make a statement in SSBB.
A moveset might be a little difficult, but hey, it’s Nintendo, so the possibilities
are endless. (Mario at 6, total at 40)
Wolf O’Donnell - The coolest Star Fox character IMO, he certainly deserves to be in SSBB.
Many debate whether Krystal or Wolf should be in, why not both? (Star Fox at 4, total at 41)
Deoxys - Later generations of Pokemon should be represented, and Deoxys is the perfect one for the job.
His Down-B move could be switching between his forms, changing his attributes. Evil enough to give
Mewtwo a run for his money. (Pokemon at 4, total at 42)
Pac-Man - My last third-party character, Pac-Man was in Mario Kart GP for the arcade, so getting his rights
for another game would not be hard for Nintendo. (Third-Party at 3, total at 43)
*Geno - If he’s first-party, then Geno would make an excellent addition to the SSB world, with his arm
cannons and such. A moveset would be relatively easy, his rights are the biggest issue. (Mario at 7, total at 44)
Each SSB game has had its last unlockable character be a WTF character (Ness in SSB, Game and Watch in SSBM).
I think this next one will be the perfect WTF addition:
Totakeke/K.K. Slider - Come on, who would see this coming? K.K. would be kick-*** in Brawl.
Each of his moves could come from his song selection, he’s equipped with a weapon (his guitar),
and his Super Smash could be a barrage of Animal Crossing animals. I personally would love to see him.
(Animal Crossing at 1, total at 45)
FINAL ROSTER:
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Petey Piranha, Geno,
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf (reworked), WW Link, Pikachu, Jigglypuff,
Mewtwo, Deoxys, Fox, Falco (reworked), Krystal, Wolf O’Donnell, Marth, Ike,
Sigurd, Samus/ZSS, Ridley, Kirby, Meta-Knight, King DeDeDe, Yoshi,
DK, Diddy Kong, Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Game and Watch,
Ness, Jeff, Pit, Wario, Captain Olimar, Balloon Fighter,
Little Mac, Lip, Totakeke/K.K.Slider, Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man
FINAL REPRESENTATION LIST:
Mario (7), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (4), Fire Emblem (3),
Metroid (2), Kirby (3), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (2), F-Zero (2), Game and Watch (1),
Earthbound/MOTHER (2), Kid Icarus (1), Wario (1), Pikmin (1), Balloon Fight (1),
Punch-Out! (1), Panel de Pon (1), Animal Crossing (1), Third-Party (3)
Zero Suit Samus will work like this:
Select Samus, play as regular Samus until you use her Super Smash, which will be like the Brawl video:
a giant beam that breaks her armor off. Play as Zero Suit Samus for either the rest of the battle OR
until you use her Super Smash, which will somehow put the armor back on.
In short, the Super Smash is how you will switch between the two.
*If Geno is third-party, then he will not be in SSBB. In his place should be:
Kamek - An almost forgotten villain from a very good SNES game. Kamek deserves a little more credit for
terrorizing Yoshi and Baby Mario in SMW2, and SSBB is the perfect place to show it. (Yoshi at 2, total at 45)
ROSTER AND REPRESENTATION LIST IN THIS SCENARIO:
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Petey Piranha, Link,
Zelda, Ganondorf (reworked), WW Link, Pikachu, Jigglypuff,
Mewtwo, Deoxys, Fox, Falco (reworked), Krystal, Wolf O’Donnell,
Marth, Ike, Sigurd, Samus/ZSS, Ridley, Kirby, Meta-Knight, King DeDeDe,
Yoshi, Kamek, DK, Diddy Kong, Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Game and Watch,
Ness, Jeff, Pit, Wario, Captain Olimar, Balloon Fighter, Little Mac, Lip,
Totakeke/K.K.Slider, Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man
Mario (6), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (4), Fire Emblem (3),
Metroid (2), Kirby (3), Yoshi (2), Donkey Kong (2), F-Zero (2), Game and Watch (1),
Earthbound/MOTHER (2), Kid Icarus (1), Wario (1), Pikmin (1), Balloon Fight (1),
Punch-Out! (1), Panel de Pon (1), Animal Crossing (1), Third-Party (3)
This is my opinion, so don’t flame me if I don’t agree with you, it’s just what I think. Feel free, however,
to critique and add your own opinions. That’s always good XD.
~~~
I've put a lot of thought into Brawl ever since I saw the trailer. The possibilities are ENDLESS. After much consideration and about 6 hours of searching through possible characters, I've come up with a "report" of what I think will happen with Brawl. Please click on the above URL, read it (though it is a bit lengthy), and let me know what you all think. I'm curious to see how my predictions go over with you guys.
Now, before I'm dismissed as a n00b who knows nothing about SSB, I promise you I've been playing the game for quite a while, I just never took the time to join Smashboards. Now I am here, and I hope my contributions don't make me sound like an idiot
Now, on to business:
~~~
SUPER SMASH BROS. BRAWL HYPOTHESIS
40-50 characters seems to be the consensus, I’m going with 45.
2-3 of them will be third-party (including Snake)
Sakurai said that not everyone will be returning
4 new characters and 1 character variation have been announced as of 8/22/06
MELEE CHARACTERS:
Mario, Luigi, Bowser, Peach, Yoshi
Ness, Captain Falcon, Link, Young Link, Zelda/Sheik
Ganondorf, Samus, Ice Climbers, Mr. Game And Watch, Pikachu
Pichu, Jigglypuff, Fox, Falco, Donkey Kong
Kirby, Mewtwo, Marth, Roy, Doctor Mario
REPRESENTATION IN MELEE BY GAME:
Mario (5), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (2)
Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), Metroid (1), Kirby (1), Ice Climbers (1),
F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1)
ALREADY ANNOUCED CHARACTERS TO BRAWL (4):
Meta-Knight, Pit, Wario, Snake
Zero Suit Samus is not a “true character addition” according to smashbros.com,
I’ll explain how I think she’ll be accessed at the end.
UPDATED REPRESENTATION CHART::
Mario (5), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (2),
Metroid (1), Kirby (2), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), Ice Climbers (1),
F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1), Kid Icarus (1),
Wario (1), Third-Party (1)
PREDICTIONS:
Note: These are only my opinions based on who I think fits best into the SSB world.
I understand that like everyone else, I have about as much say as to what happens with Brawl as the next guy: none.
I am not for or against any specific characters, I’ll be playing the game no matter who’s in it.
If you don’t see your character preferences, I’m sorry to disappoint you.
CHARACTERS FROM MELEE THAT WILL BE CUT:
Roy - Fire Emblem has many more characters that not only will fit in SSBB, but also are more popular that Roy.
Roy seems to have only made Melee to advertise FE6, so he is definitely expendable. (Fire Emblem at 1, total at 28)
Young Link - I don’t really see this as a cut, more of a replacement.
I can’t help but think that that stupid rumor will come (partly) true and WW Link will replace Young Link.
(Zelda at 3, total at 27)
Pichu - A Pikachu clone that damages itself. Need I say more? (Pokemon at 3, total at 26)
Ice Climbers - As cool as they were, there are other retro characters that deserve a shot in Brawl,
Pit being the first. (Ice Climbers at 0, total at 25)
Doctor Mario - This really sucks, especially since he’s my second best character in Melee,
but I just don’t see him moving on to Brawl, believe me, I’ve tried. (Mario at 4, total at 24)
UPDATED REPRESENTATION LIST:
Mario (4), The Legend of Zelda (3), Pokemon (3), Star Fox (2), Fire Emblem (1),
Metroid (1), Kirby (2), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (1), F-Zero (1), Game and Watch (1), Earthbound/MOTHER (1), Kid Icarus (1),
Wario (1), Third-Party (1)
ADDITIONS:
Diddy Kong - Easily the best pick from the Donkey Kong franchise,
Diddy is, in some minds, a lock. No argument here. (Donkey Kong at 2, total at 25)
Wind Waker Link - See Young Link’s cut. (Zelda at 4, total at 26)
Sigurd - The most popular FE lord in Japan, and one rumored to have been one of the final cuts for Melee.
(Fire Emblem at 2, total at 27)
Krystal - I was sketchy, but now I think she’ll get in to bolster female character presence,
and because she’s got that wicked staff, so a moveset shouldn’t be hard. (Star Fox at 3, total at 28)
Ike - The Sigurd of the USA, partly because his Fire Emblem game was the first American Fire Emblem
on a non-portable US console. His US popularity can’t be ignored. (Fire Emblem at 3, total at 29)
Captain Olimar - PIKMIN ATTACK!!! Of all the possibilities I’ve heard for Brawl, I think Olimar
is the easiest to transfer into SSB. Lots of Pikmin attacks. (Pikmin at 1, total at 30)
Jeff - There are many within the Earthbound/MOTHER universe that could join Ness
(Poo and Lucas come to mind) but as far as important characters in the universally-known Earthbound storyline go,
Jeff is the best bet to me. (Earthbound/MOTHER at 2, total at 31)
King DeDeDe - If Meta-Knight is in, why can’t the original Kirby villian get in too? I
personally like DeDeDe more than Meta-Knight, but that’s a different story. (Kirby at 3, total at 32)
Balloon Fighter - Another character rumored to have been one of the final Melee cuts,
this guy would represent the retro world quite well. (Balloon Fighter at 1, total at 33)
Little Mac - Again, a retro character that would be perfect for the SSB universe.
He’s a boxer, for cripes sake, he was created to fight. (Punch-Out at 1, total at 34)
Lip - Japanese representation in SSB is, well, Fire Emblem, so putting Lip in would give us American types
another taste of what’s not making it across the Pacific. (Panel de Pon at 1, total at 35)
Sonic - I’ve heard more debates on Sonic than anybody else (except maybe Geno), but in all honesty,
I think Sonic would definitely work in SSBB. Although it is true that Sega was not always
loyal to Nintendo like, say, Capcom, Sonic is a VERY popular character, so his inclusion into Brawl
would be a very popular move (Third-Party at 2, total at 36)
Samurai Goroh - F-Zero needs more representation, and Goroh was in the Melee introduction,
so who better from F-Zero than Goroh? (F-Zero at 2, total at 37)
Ridley - Easily the most recognized Metroid villain. Some people say that Ridley would be too big of a
character for Brawl, but Bowser was huge in Mario 64 and not so huge in Melee, so why can’t the
same happen to Ridley? (Metroid at 2, total at 38)
Toad - At first I was apprehensive about Toad, but now I think Toad would be a really cool and unique
addition to Brawl. His moveset would be awesome. (Mario at 5, total at 39)
Petey Piranha - A new bad guy in the Mario world, he could definitely make a statement in SSBB.
A moveset might be a little difficult, but hey, it’s Nintendo, so the possibilities
are endless. (Mario at 6, total at 40)
Wolf O’Donnell - The coolest Star Fox character IMO, he certainly deserves to be in SSBB.
Many debate whether Krystal or Wolf should be in, why not both? (Star Fox at 4, total at 41)
Deoxys - Later generations of Pokemon should be represented, and Deoxys is the perfect one for the job.
His Down-B move could be switching between his forms, changing his attributes. Evil enough to give
Mewtwo a run for his money. (Pokemon at 4, total at 42)
Pac-Man - My last third-party character, Pac-Man was in Mario Kart GP for the arcade, so getting his rights
for another game would not be hard for Nintendo. (Third-Party at 3, total at 43)
*Geno - If he’s first-party, then Geno would make an excellent addition to the SSB world, with his arm
cannons and such. A moveset would be relatively easy, his rights are the biggest issue. (Mario at 7, total at 44)
Each SSB game has had its last unlockable character be a WTF character (Ness in SSB, Game and Watch in SSBM).
I think this next one will be the perfect WTF addition:
Totakeke/K.K. Slider - Come on, who would see this coming? K.K. would be kick-*** in Brawl.
Each of his moves could come from his song selection, he’s equipped with a weapon (his guitar),
and his Super Smash could be a barrage of Animal Crossing animals. I personally would love to see him.
(Animal Crossing at 1, total at 45)
FINAL ROSTER:
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Petey Piranha, Geno,
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf (reworked), WW Link, Pikachu, Jigglypuff,
Mewtwo, Deoxys, Fox, Falco (reworked), Krystal, Wolf O’Donnell, Marth, Ike,
Sigurd, Samus/ZSS, Ridley, Kirby, Meta-Knight, King DeDeDe, Yoshi,
DK, Diddy Kong, Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Game and Watch,
Ness, Jeff, Pit, Wario, Captain Olimar, Balloon Fighter,
Little Mac, Lip, Totakeke/K.K.Slider, Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man
FINAL REPRESENTATION LIST:
Mario (7), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (4), Fire Emblem (3),
Metroid (2), Kirby (3), Yoshi (1), Donkey Kong (2), F-Zero (2), Game and Watch (1),
Earthbound/MOTHER (2), Kid Icarus (1), Wario (1), Pikmin (1), Balloon Fight (1),
Punch-Out! (1), Panel de Pon (1), Animal Crossing (1), Third-Party (3)
Zero Suit Samus will work like this:
Select Samus, play as regular Samus until you use her Super Smash, which will be like the Brawl video:
a giant beam that breaks her armor off. Play as Zero Suit Samus for either the rest of the battle OR
until you use her Super Smash, which will somehow put the armor back on.
In short, the Super Smash is how you will switch between the two.
*If Geno is third-party, then he will not be in SSBB. In his place should be:
Kamek - An almost forgotten villain from a very good SNES game. Kamek deserves a little more credit for
terrorizing Yoshi and Baby Mario in SMW2, and SSBB is the perfect place to show it. (Yoshi at 2, total at 45)
ROSTER AND REPRESENTATION LIST IN THIS SCENARIO:
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser, Toad, Petey Piranha, Link,
Zelda, Ganondorf (reworked), WW Link, Pikachu, Jigglypuff,
Mewtwo, Deoxys, Fox, Falco (reworked), Krystal, Wolf O’Donnell,
Marth, Ike, Sigurd, Samus/ZSS, Ridley, Kirby, Meta-Knight, King DeDeDe,
Yoshi, Kamek, DK, Diddy Kong, Captain Falcon, Samurai Goroh, Game and Watch,
Ness, Jeff, Pit, Wario, Captain Olimar, Balloon Fighter, Little Mac, Lip,
Totakeke/K.K.Slider, Snake, Sonic, Pac-Man
Mario (6), The Legend of Zelda (4), Pokemon (4), Star Fox (4), Fire Emblem (3),
Metroid (2), Kirby (3), Yoshi (2), Donkey Kong (2), F-Zero (2), Game and Watch (1),
Earthbound/MOTHER (2), Kid Icarus (1), Wario (1), Pikmin (1), Balloon Fight (1),
Punch-Out! (1), Panel de Pon (1), Animal Crossing (1), Third-Party (3)
This is my opinion, so don’t flame me if I don’t agree with you, it’s just what I think. Feel free, however,
to critique and add your own opinions. That’s always good XD.
~~~
I've put a lot of thought into Brawl ever since I saw the trailer. The possibilities are ENDLESS. After much consideration and about 6 hours of searching through possible characters, I've come up with a "report" of what I think will happen with Brawl. Please click on the above URL, read it (though it is a bit lengthy), and let me know what you all think. I'm curious to see how my predictions go over with you guys.