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my sheik. It needs work

The March Hare

Smash Cadet
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Apr 13, 2009
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So much needs changing......

1) Stop floating in the air so much, fast fall more of your moves.

2) more throwing the falco off the edge and edge whoring it. You're edge guarding needs help, use b-air more from the edge.

3)Move faster....this is linked to the floating....One of your problems is missed l cancels.

4) Work on your recovery, needs drastic improvement.

5) Mix up tilts, don't just use forward tilt multiple times in a row.

6) Use more bair, uair, and even dair. F-air isn't sheik's only or even her best option.

7)DI out of the falco combos he kept on getting you into.

8) Get off the edge with a slap or a waveland, stop rolling off the edge.

Probably other things as well, but that is what I noticed from watching the 2 vids.
 

KirbyKaze

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you stand around a lot. while this is good in a lot of cases, it does nothing versus falco when he's in control (unless you have good powershielding or something dumb like that). he'll shoot you. it's fine when you're in control, though.

don't guess on his tech chase, just react lol. if you're late and can't regrab, understand that and don't. d-smash him or something. also, if he goes to the edge, don't bother grabbing him if he's at a decent percent. just d-smash him or dash attack and kill him. there's no need to drag anything out.

your movement needs work. for starters, you could actually start moving. sheik's mobility is a good thing lol, you need to take advantage of it.

stop missing l-cancels lol. you shouldn't be missing l-cancels. you also fail a lot of really easy stuff like tilt --> fair. you need to get those down, they're a big part of sheik.
 

The March Hare

Smash Cadet
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Much better than ex's previous vids. Large problem is still your speed and your edge guarding. To become faster I advise you to play c. falcon for a little while and then come back to sheik. For your edge guarding, You don't follow up your first needles and thus let him back on the stage, find a good follow up to your original needles. To many forward tilts as well, a good move becomes a bad move when you miss that many times. Try jab as an alternative to ftilt when you might miss. Far less lag.
 

Rubyiris

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Just as an FYI, these vids were recorded after he read your guys advice. =x

I try to help him, but I'm only just now learning how to play Shiek, and all I do is turtle.
 

nicaboy

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ya your sheik needs to move alot faster. As stated above work on the l canceling as well. oh yea and the fast falling it will help you out alot. I also would suggest you use sheik needles alot more they can do a variety things such as gimping racking up damage as well as link you to grabs.
 

Rubyiris

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Actually, I'm going to retort and say `EX needs to needle LESS. A problem I noticed while watching him play is that he full hop charges way too much. He stays in the air way too long and just kinda floats around, and his habit of spamming needles is one of those problems. More than anything, he really should stay grounded longer.
 

The March Hare

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I agree with you Rubyiris that Ex stays way to long in the air storing up needles. But I also agree with Nicaboy with reservations. Ex needs to learn to use needles effectively. Right now he jumps, stores needles and then shoots them, come what may. He needs to learn to wait and use the needles for the necessary gimps and grabs.
 

KirbyKaze

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Whatever he does, he needs to be more accurate with his moves rofl.

He misses a lot.

And he does needles at dumb times but that's part of not being accurate.

Be more accurate. Space better. D-throw dash attack Fair after like 50. You'll need to tech chase. If they DI away just continue to tech chase rofl.
 

Rubyiris

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I noticed he does needles at really stupid times like, he'd be in a tech chase position, and he'd ****ing full hop and charge needles. This drove me insane when i was trying to coach him, cuz he kept doing it, even when I *****ed at him. =[[[[

I explained to him why it was bad, but im not sure if hes broken the habit or not yet. we played yesterday, but that was all low-tiers lol.
 

`EX

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I noticed he does needles at really stupid times like, he'd be in a tech chase position, and he'd ****ing full hop and charge needles. This drove me insane when i was trying to coach him, cuz he kept doing it, even when I *****ed at him. =[[[[

I explained to him why it was bad, but im not sure if hes broken the habit or not yet. we played yesterday, but that was all low-tiers lol.
MY YOSHI IS GOD!!! i with i could mian him.lawl
 

Fortress | Sveet

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i think the very first thing you have to do is learn how to move out of shiek's moves. they all have low or no lag. work on your fast falling and shfflcing. one of shiek's advantages are her speed and ability to throw a lot of fast low lag moves.
 
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