My partnership with King of the Couch...

[Inui]

I have been talking with the guy in charge of King of the Couch, a tournament "company" we should all be familiar with, especially anyone from the Melee days. Mew2King started his Smash career at King of the Couch events squaring off against ancient legends such as Wes, DireVulcan, the_suicide_fox, and PimpUigi. King of the Couch is familiar with us. the_suicide_fox used to host their Smash events, but he retired a long time ago. WarriorOfZarona tried something, but quickly faded.

However, I have offered them use of the Windsor Room at the hotel and we're going to work together to make gaming events there huge. He said he can draw in 100-200 people. I intend on having my crew sell food and drinks in order to profit off of this partnership. He'll draw in tons of players, hopefully we can get people to enter multiple games so we can both profit, and my crew will profit by selling food and drinks to all of these extra players we can get. The hotel is ok with it because my dad's ok with it, and players will probably rent out rooms.

How will this work? You all know the Windsor Room is huge. It supported Apex almost entirely on its own. On top of that, I'll be using the McCarter Room (the smaller breakfast room to the side) every time in order to add space. Magus is a magician that can pull off hosting the entire Smash event in that little room, I bet, but we'll still have part of the Windsor Room to work with anyways.

I had a serious discussion with him about the Smash community not being very businesslike. People complain too much about high venue fees, taking from the pot, having to start in the morning and on time. I'm guilty of it to. This has been brought up in the SBR before. The Smash community has millions of untapped dollars in terms of business. I aim to be more businesslike and I want to represent this community outside of just the community itself. I'm going to try and get sponsors and stuff and be more serious with KotC.

I will need certain players in my crew dedicated to food issues. Magus and I will run the events by default. Unfortunately, for money reasons, I must limit who can help out. Consider this a thread to...apply, I guess. If you're a member of Enemy Controller with some talent for hosting or you're responsible, I'll consider it. Magus and I are going to be the default hosts. Other stuff is up for grabs within the crew. I need at least three people dedicated to selling food and one more person to help us host.

How does everyone feel about this?

 

[dmbrandon]

KotC is going to take 50% of the pots as profit, man. You know this.

 

[Allied]

Good ****ing **** lucas

 

[BleachigoZX]

Can I join Enemy Controller?

I'm good at selling/cashier-ing.

Spoiler

LMAO, not really. But try not to screw this up like "Azul" did.

 

[teh_spamerer]

KotC is going to take 50% of the pots as profit, man. You know this.

KotC def has a pretty terribad reputation of robbing pots.

 

[hova]

don't mean to spam up the thread

but good **** Inui



can i run the Wii Sports side tourney??

 

[CT Chia]

i was the last Smash TO to work with KOTC, and after one event I immediately stopped. I found it extremely hard to work with the guy, and nothing was reasonable imo. I also wanted to sort of tap into the business side of it as well, and most of the complaints from smashers are baseless and annoying, but working with the pot with them is also a huge issue. The amount of money wanted in comparison to the amount of space and resources we were given flat out werent worth it.
I suppose there could be some light at the end of the tunnel with this as you are providing the venue and I had worked with theirs instead, but overall, I found it as a business opportunity that simply isn't workable, as much as I wanted it to succeed. I would personally stay away, especially knowing you and your TO habits (not saying anything bad, I mean it heavily contradicts with your norm).

 

[Levitibus]

Ah, KOTC you say, this takes me back to going to the Bennigans restaruant with Storms and Bailey for it. HRP son!

Watching Zang **** Husband with Falco after Husband beat me, Marcus almost taking out PC to earn his status and of course WES trying to beat the former anti social M2K with his Mario, good times~


Can I be an enforcer?

 

[Kaiber Kop]

I don't care for the idea lucas. I like things the way they are now. It's possible things could improve(I suppose) but I like how the TO's, or more so the players, are in charge. I don't want things to change

 

[Fuego Fox]

don't mean to spam up the thread

but good **** Inui



can i run the Wii Sports side tourney??

Where you at in that wii boxing,

Good **** inui

Im thinking of doing somethin similar

 

[_Yes!_]

cool...$20 entry fee's and ***** pot? sorry lucas but it doesn't sound that appealing.

 

[daisho]

This sounds like a great idea. As long as you can actually make profits off the food then you can take less out of the pot. But if there is 200 people even with taking out there will be a huge pot.

 

[EmuKiller]

Ah, KOTC you say, this takes me back to going to the Bennigans restaruant with Storms and Bailey for it. HRP son!

Watching Zang **** Husband with Falco after Husband beat me, Marcus almost taking out PC to earn his status and of course WES trying to beat the former anti social M2K with his Mario, good times~

I actually still play Zang. He's my brother's poker-friend and lives in my town xD.

I'm not active enough to help out, to be honest. If I were to go I'd more than willing help, but the fact is I don't get around.

To be honest if the amount that KotC takes is greater than 33% I mean..... not worth it. But yeah... it definitely sucks that nobody takes smash seriously.

Whatever happened to that little group that you and Blue were forming last year, Inui?

 

[Inui]

KotC is going to take 50% of the pots as profit, man. You know this.

Untrue, Herr Brandon.

KotC will have no influence over the pots of the Smash event. I will still be in total control.

don't mean to spam up the thread

but good **** Inui

I don't care for the idea lucas. I like things the way they are now. It's possible things could improve(I suppose) but I like how the TO's, or more so the players, are in charge. I don't want things to change

Ha ha ha... While your opinion has some merit to me, I don't agree with you. I'm interested in getting more serious. I'm interested in making more money. You will still enjoy the events.

I am in charge. Authority over the venue and the Smash events is mine alone.

cool...$20 entry fee's and ***** pot? sorry lucas but it doesn't sound that appealing.

Achtung! I'm no idiot! Why would you think I'm foolish enough to allow them to change my entry fees and take from the pots of our events?

 

[Kaiber Kop]

IF things go the way you say, I will obviously help out. When I see how it goes then I'll decide whether I think you made a mistake

 

[_Yes!_]

I like the air guitar one.

 

[BIGM1994]

**** i remember this, my first tournament i went to in november 15th or something like that, good times..

 

[dmbrandon]

He's manipulative, and overbearing. Avoid at all costs.

 

[Inui]

He's manipulative, and overbearing. Avoid at all costs.

That's what I am.

 

[EmuKiller]

So entry fees would remain the same, would the venue fee still exist or is that the part being covered by the KotC sponsorship? Or is it just that more money is going to the pot from the sponsorship and venue fees stay in place.

Or has none of this been decided yet because this is still all very much up in the air and in the far distant future >_>.

 

[Inui]

So entry fees would remain the same, would the venue fee still exist or is that the part being covered by the KotC sponsorship? Or is it just that more money is going to the pot from the sponsorship and venue fees stay in place.

Or has none of this been decided yet because this is still all very much up in the air and in the far distant future >_>.

Yes, the same. KotC isn't changing anything about the Smash events. I am in control.

 

[CT Chia]

if they arent changing the smash events.... then why deal with them in the first place? i had it all worked out with them at first the same way u seem to now. everything was gonna be fine entry and pot wise, though day of, things didnt go to plan. he also asked to use one of my venues, and was quite persistant, but i wasnt able to do anything about it. hes really just trying to get a venue imo. u also believe u are in control now, but when the tourney becomes "KOTC" and not inui's tourney, i guarantee u things are gonna change. i was also "in control" of the smash event, yet some things still ended up being out of my control.

but u said it urself. the smash isnt gonna change, so why do it? why have 200 other ppl in ur venue taking up space for not smash and making smashers pay exhorbitant amounts of money. ud be better off changing ur tourneys to a $20 venue fee and just pocketing it all, and maybe having some concessions on the side. u dont need kotc to have concessions. plus, the concessions they had at the last kotc event i were at were horrible and incredibly overpriced. no one will pay the prices considering ur next door to a wendys

 

[Inui]

if they arent changing the smash events.... then why deal with them in the first place? i had it all worked out with them at first the same way u seem to now. everything was gonna be fine entry and pot wise, though day of, things didnt go to plan. he also asked to use one of my venues, and was quite persistant, but i wasnt able to do anything about it. hes really just trying to get a venue imo.

He's going to bring players in. Players I can make money off of.

u also believe u are in control now, but when the tourney becomes "KOTC" and not inui's tourney, i guarantee u things are gonna change. i was also "in control" of the smash event, yet some things still ended up being out of my control.

Here are the differences between you and me. I am far more persistent and arrogant than you, meaning I won't let him walk all over me. I literally have control over the venue. My father is powerful at the hotel and will not hesitate to smite KotC for me if they cross me.

but u said it urself. the smash isnt gonna change, so why do it? why have 200 other ppl in ur venue taking up space for not smash and making smashers pay exhorbitant amounts of money. ud be better off changing ur tourneys to a $20 venue fee and just pocketing it all, and maybe having some concessions on the side. u dont need kotc to have concessions. plus, the concessions they had at the last kotc event i were at were horrible and incredibly overpriced. no one will pay the prices considering ur next door to a wendys

Smashers pay exhorbitant amounts of money? What are you talking about? My prices aren't changing.

The concessions will be controlled by me. There will be no $20 venue fees. KotC will draw in people to buy those concessions.

 

[Allied]

i trust inui will have this in control for better outcomes

i'm sure it will be fine

 

[ANTi_]

Make a partnership with : Stomp You In The Nuts foundation

If Kotc takes money out of the pot we get to stomp you in the nuts with an old pair of timberlands

If Kotc doesn't take out of the pot we give you 10$

 

[Noraa]

Make a partnership with : Stomp You In The Nuts foundation

If Kotc takes money out of the pot we get to stomp you in the nuts with an old pair of timberlands

If Kotc doesn't take out of the pot we give you 10$ and still stomp you in the nuts with an old pair of timberlands

anti my n i gga, Fixed

 

[ANTi_]

lololololololol

 

[Crizthakidd]

i could help since i live 20 mins from the venue.

we need moar scrubs at tournies

 

[g-regulate]

yea i remember going to a few KOTCs back in the day, they took 50% of everything. but if they dont do that for smash than that will be cool.

 

[njmaddenballer]

INUI will be the Smash director and will run 100% of the Smash end. KOTC will not interfere in any way with how he does things.

The SMASH EVENTS WILL BE SEPERATE and run by INUI and his people PERIOD.

What ever he was doing and wants to do, IT WILL BE HIS WAY WITH SMASH.

Seperate Pay ins, Seperate Pay outs, Seperate every thing.

We will simply be sharing a space.


KOTC will run the other events.

Let's try to give more love and less hate on things fellas.

-Rod

 

[Alex Strife]

Here is a few things to consider.

KOTC went to us and asked for smash and they do not have to. They do not need smash for anything other than providing a place to have a good time. That is why I help direct them to Inui. Everyone will have a good time and we can all interact with people.


Not only that imagine if, for example, we work with them for adding SF4 to the tournaments.

DM I know you would love SF4 tournaments and maybe MVC2 as well.

It is a start and as all starts are things will take time to develop but I trust in KOTC and if my opinion matters, as I know it does, imagine the possiblities.

 

[njmaddenballer]

Here is a few things to consider.

KOTC went to us and asked for smash and they do not have to. They do not need smash for anything other than providing a place to have a good time. That is why I help direct them to Inui. Everyone will have a good time and we can all interact with people.


Not only that imagine if, for example, we work with them for adding SF4 to the tournaments.

DM I know you would love SF4 tournaments and maybe MVC2 as well.

It is a start and as all starts are things will take time to develop but I trust in KOTC and if my opinion matters, as I know it does, imagine the possiblities.

Things will run exactly the way the Smash director wants it to run. Our Princeton partnership will simply bring more opportunities to bring in more gamers to the smash events but at the same time gives the KOTC staple events such as Madden, HALO, Gears etc a place in Central NJ where we can make things happen.

Once again, THE SMASH EVENTS WILL BE THEIR OWN ENTITY. I hope this clears things up.

 

[Allied]

Yo if gears will happen there

i'm so winning that :3

 

[dmbrandon]

IT'S MAHVEL BABY.

Seriously though, the non-smash events should have the MAD house fee.

 

[Inui]

IT'S MAHVEL BABY.

Seriously though, the non-smash events should have the MAD house fee.

Yeah, I'm considering that. I don't think I'm going to make enough off of concessions alone to cover the clean-up and set-up work I know I'll be stuck with.

 

[njmaddenballer]

IT'S MAHVEL BABY.

Seriously though, the non-smash events should have the MAD house fee.

As Smash will be run AS -IS.

The non Smash events will be run AS -IS., house fees are foreign to those players, we build EVERY THING into our price, HELP, PAYOUTS, EQUIPMENT COST, MARKETING, etc.

With that being said, the marketing attack, room rentals and concessions will be OVER THE TOP.

This will be a great venture for every one.

 

[Inui]

Well, if I make a lot off of concessions and the hotel gets at least some rooms sold, I will continue things as-is and be happy with it.

I hope it all works out.

 

[njmaddenballer]

Well, if I make a lot off of concessions and the hotel gets at least some rooms sold, I will continue things as-is and be happy with it.

I hope it all works out.

You are in good hands on this one my friend, the other communities stay over night etc and have big appetites.

 

[njmaddenballer]

Just spoke to the Suicide Fox and he is pumped.

 

[BIGM1994]

Just spoke to the Suicide Fox and he is pumped.

Suicide Fox!!!! hes a legend.



he taught m2k how to get good in melee.