My Mafia Academia -- ENDGAME: Bites Za Dusto

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

****ing broken image uploader ruinign my ****ing replies!

 

[Pyra]

Doop's been suspicious of me since day 1, iirc.


I believe it because I played a few games with praline before and yeah, they're bad.

But I've never really seen prapra be that bad either... Even at her worst, she was either just outplayed or a terrible liar, not making dumb stuff like this.

Could it be possible she’s a scum investigative role instead?

I’m a bit busy but I’m positive she’s said who her character is, does that character line up properly with the ability she’s claiming?

 

[Ura]

But... if you don't see the alignment, then it's not a real cop.

It's a one-shot role cop.

And like Toaster said, why use it so early on Z? Especially since again, you're not a typical cop, so knowing the abilities really don't help at figuring out the alignment all that much unless it's an obvious mafia role like strongman.

What was even the result of praline's search? I recall him saying something among the lines of Z being scum or something.

 

[Pyra]

What was even the result of praline's search? I recall him saying something among the lines of Z being scum or something.

That Z is Shinzo.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

That Z is Shinzo.

But she the ability names wouldn't be told to her.

Wouldn't knowing the identity of the user just make that restriction pointless?

 

[Ura]

That Z is Shinzo.

I tried Googling Shinzo but I didn't get much of anything. Can someone link where the character description is?

 

[praline]

Just had a thought.
If it's a one time use why did you use it so early, on Z?
Just curious.

And like Toaster said, why use it so early on Z?

Cause I wanted to see if I was right about Z and I didn’t really think it would be useful down the line.

But... if you don't see the alignment, then it's not a real cop.

I mean I never did say I was a cop.

 

[praline]

It's kinda a weird claim said weirdly hesitantly at a weird time. Not sure how I feel on it.

I mean normally you don’t want to blurt out that you have any sort of investigation abilities in the main thread where everyone can see. Hence my hesitation.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Cause I wanted to see if I was right about Z and I didn’t really think it would be useful down the line.

How... How did you not think any info on Z would be useful when he's been a primary suspect to a couple of users since day 1?

Also, wasting a one-shot on something you didn't think would be useful?

I mean I never did say I was a cop.

Checked back.

That's actually true. You just implied you were investigative.

 

[praline]

How... How did you not think any info on Z would be useful when he's been a primary suspect to a couple of users since day 1?

Also, wasting a one-shot on something you didn't think would be useful?

Could you not twist my words? Thanks.

 

[Pyra]

But she the ability names wouldn't be told to her.

Wouldn't knowing the identity of the user just make that restriction pointless?

To be fair, not really. You’d have to kinda just infer those things. I could have gone a number of ways with just “Shinzo” as info
The more pertinent piece of info that can be gained from it is the alignment of any one person.

 

[Pyra]

How... How did you not think any info on Z would be useful when he's been a primary suspect to a couple of users since day 1?

Also, wasting a one-shot on something you didn't think would be useful?

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but this seems almost backwards to what she meant.

 

[Pyra]

I tried Googling Shinzo but I didn't get much of anything. Can someone link where the character description is?

I meant Shinso.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

To be fair, not really. You’d have to kinda just infer those things. I could have gone a number of ways with just “Shinzo” as info
The more pertinent piece of info that can be gained from it is the alignment of any one person.

That's fair enough.

And praline at least knows the show, so she can make guesses off of the abilities.

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but this seems almost backwards to what she meant.

... Maybe I read her words wrong then, but still...

Cause I wanted to see if I was right about Z and I didn’t really think it would be useful down the line.

That last part got me.

 

[Pyra]

That last part got me.

I don't know- I could probably just chalk that up to bad judgement.

What would it be indicative of, do you think

 

[praline]

That last part got me.

I meant like I didn’t see anither instance where it would be useful.

 

[Ura]

I meant Shinso.

This tidbit really makes me lean towards Scum...

Not only does he want to refute those who shame his abilities, but he also aspires to usurp students who walk the path towards becoming a Pro Hero, as he wished to

Well that and his listed quirk being "Brainwashing doesn't give me good vibes.

Of course I would be a hypocrite for basing this off the flavor when I already said before that conclusions can't be 100% derived from it. With that being said, it also says on his wiki page that he's seen as a friend by Izuku and Denki who I presume to be good guys in MHA? It's pretty trippy man.

 

[Pyra]

I meant like I didn’t see anither instance where it would be useful.

There was nobody else who's alignment you wanted to check?

The one part I'm tripped up by is, why Z specifically?
Why was he the best candidate for that? Is it really just cause you wanted to see if your guess was right?

 

[Pyra]

This tidbit really makes me lean towards Scum...

Well that and his listed quirk being "Brainwashing doesn't give me good vibes.

Of course I would be a hypocrite for basing this off the flavor when I already said before that conclusions can't be 100% derived from it. With that being said, it also says on his wiki page that he's seen as a friend by Izuku and Denki who I presume to be good guys in MHA? It's pretty trippy man.

He's a hero.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

I don't know- I could probably just chalk that up to bad judgement.

What would it be indicative of, do you think

Either an accidental goof that opens the opportunity of a slip-up or just a case of bad wording.

I meant like I didn’t see anither instance where it would be useful.

Oh.

Probably bad wording then.

 

[Ura]

He's a hero.

*Flips desk*

I really don't know jack about MHA lol. His profile gave me a very villainous feel.

 

[Pyra]

*Flips desk*

I really don't know jack about MHA lol. His profile gave me a very villainous feel.

I think half the point is that he appears spooky, his quirk is spooky, but he's genuinely a good guy who just got made fun of a lot.

 

[praline]

Is it really just cause you wanted to see if your guess was right?

Well also cause everyone was ganging up on him day 1, atleast that’s what it seemed like to me so I wanted to know for sure. So I guess kinda lol

Oh.

Probably bad wording then.

Well fair enough I guess.

*Flips desk*

I really don't know jack about MHA lol. His profile gave me a very villainous feel.

I guess I’m not the only person who needs to catch up on MHA lol

 

[Ura]

I think half the point is that he appears spooky, his quirk is spooky, but he's genuinely a good guy who just got made fun of a lot.

Yeah, so much for that being conclusive evidence for Z. This really sucks.

I guess I’m not the only person who needs to catch up on MHA lol

I don't know much about MHA beyond the All Might memes lol.

 

[Pyra]

Yeah, so much for that being conclusive evidence for Z. This really sucks.

Which is why I'm considering both Praline and Z as Town.
They could be scum, but I'm just gonna pick a line of thinking and stick to it.

Which means I might try and look at the people who were, just now, a bit more pushy (so to speak, not necessarily aggressive) on some people, and let's go from there.
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That means Ura and The Stoopid Unikorn
Unikorn backed off after I started defending praline, but was either severely misunderstanding her or intentionally twisting her words and when I pointed out what was wrong, they backed down.

Ura has had Z on his #1 pick for a little while iirc. Just tried to use Shinso's character as a gut feeling scum read.


Not that either of these things are of huge significance, but dammit I'm gonna figure something out even if it's just that you two are actually town. Because then, along my line of thinking, we would have 4 towns confirmed.

 

[Pyra]

Also I kinda feel weird about Pokechu but I'll explain more if it ever becomes more relevant.

 

[UtopianPoyzin]

But you forgot one thing... I know how to SWIM!

Unikorn is Asui confirmed, gotcha now!

 

[Pokechu]

Also I kinda feel weird about Pokechu but I'll explain more if it ever becomes more relevant.

you can explain more now, what's the concern? I don't see the point of letting bad feelings stir, why not shoot me anything you have now? If you want/can put a finger on it.

 

[Z25]

I see this makes a lot of sense.

As for my charcter, hats kind of the point. Spoilers below but he’s one of the best written characters I’ve seen:

Spoiler

All his life he’s been desperately trying to be a hero. However because his quirk brainwashes people he was already judged and bullied as a kid for having a power that only a “villain” would use. Because of this and the fact that his quirk is very good but hard too pull off, he wound up in normal courses at ua and was rejected from the hero course.

However with the sports festival he has a chance to be put into the hero course if he does well and the school changes their mind. So he works his hardest to overcome everything so far and show he’s a good guy who wants nothing more then to help others. He almost beats Deku too by getting under his skin and baiting Deku into answering questions.

However Deku’s willpower and the power from the previous one for all users help him get a little control back allowing him to win by pushing shinzo out of the ring for a knockout.

Shinzo gets a small spotlight but grows really well in the end. It’s a great development for his charcter.

This tidbit really makes me lean towards Scum...

Well that and his listed quirk being "Brainwashing doesn't give me good vibes.

Of course I would be a hypocrite for basing this off the flavor when I already said before that conclusions can't be 100% derived from it. With that being said, it also says on his wiki page that he's seen as a friend by Izuku and Denki who I presume to be good guys in MHA? It's pretty trippy man.

Here I recommend reading my above for a quick rundown on the charcter.

 

[Pyra]

you can explain more now, what's the concern? I don't see the point of letting bad feelings stir, why not shoot me anything you have now? If you want/can put a finger on it.

The reason I'm not is because I can't put it into words at the moment.
Specifically, it might have something to do with your previous hesitance to post/"go into hibernation", etc. You could, for sure, be genuinely put off by the toxic environment, but it's just as easy to use that as an excuse to simply fly under the radar of everyone.

"This is why I'm not posting much. Kthxbye"
It's not so much your post frequency, to me, it's more about your motive behind it.

There's no way I would be able to substantiate this, which is why I wanted to note it but not expound upon it.

 

[Pyra]

@GoldenYuiitusin What are your current reads?

You will all make a big mistake by lynching me.

I kinda wish Shiny wasn't just being vague and, apparently, bluffing back then. I mean, I'm not sure what the big mistake was other than lynching a non-scum.

 

[praline]

@GoldenYuiitusin What are your current reads?



I kinda wish Shiny wasn't just being vague and, apparently, bluffing back then. I mean, I'm not sure what the big mistake was other than lynching a non-scum.

Well lynching him before a night means he couldn’t potentially take down a villain for us.

 

[Pyra]

Well lynching him before a night means he couldn’t potentially take down a villain for us.

Haha you're right I just double checked his role
I forgot he could also check at night.

 

[Pokechu]

let me ISO some people... finally...

I've been making notes in my role PM but I've not had the motivation to actually... make a post... grozzz lol

I think the 5 players I'm most concerned about (from most to least) are Poyzin, Ura, Golden, Werekill, and GLG, I'll try to ISO them... no promises it'll be out by day's end LOL

 

[Z25]

Well lynching him before a night means he couldn’t potentially take down a villain for us.

To be fair it also means that he couldn’t have killed another townie with him as well.

I don’t think he really saw it as that though

 

[praline]

To be fair it also means that he couldn’t have killed another townie with him as well.

I don’t think he really saw it as that though

I mean yeah that’s true. He probably would have taken out a hero to be honest.

 

[Pyra]

I mean yeah that’s true. He probably would have taken out a hero to be honest.

Yeah. For instance, if he had targeted Were (to watch), he probably would have a good lead.

If he watched Z, then, well...
I would have been in the hot seat.

"Gasp!"

 

[Lore]

I mean normally you don’t want to blurt out that you have any sort of investigation abilities in the main thread where everyone can see. Hence my hesitation.

Normally you wouldn't lightly hint that you are an investigative role for no reason, either. Why did you first hint that you are an investigative, without any info from that role brought to the table?

 

[Pokechu]

3. Golden

What bothers me about Golden is how uninvolved he is. He's always taken the neutral stance, starting from Werekill's gambit to now. He's just flowing with the wind and isn't proposing any new stances. He isn't actively trying to hunt out scum, and when someone suspects him, he just gets defensive and calls them scum (OMGUS?)

There's two ways it can go down.

We lynch Toaster.
Toaster comes up villain.
We know to trust Werekill.

We lynch Toaster.
Toaster comes up hero.
We lynch Werekill the next day.

Start of the day phase and he already tries to simplify it to "lynch Toaster" after Werekill's gambit. He just goes with it - doesn't state why you should or should not believe Werekill, ask Werekill any questions about his role, why he picked Toaster... he just immediately hops on the plan to lynch Toaster.

Hell, at least I've actually tried to bring logic into this. All Pokechu has DONE is ****post. Even claiming that he'll "later" be productive.

So the very fact you don't have a problem with him, yet have a problem with me for whatever reason either means you two are in cahoots and are trying to draw attention to me as a target or you didn't think things through in your conclusion.
So which of the sins did you commit? Guilty or innocent yet foolish?

Doop suspects him and Golden OMGUSes

And he continues to have this front, in quotes such as

I can't help if people follow my train of logic, me being one of the ones who apply basic logic after multiple rounds of experience.

What train of logic? What lynches has he suggested, what things has he noted, what connections has he made, etc?

Here Golden has a strange take on Shiny.

I know I said that was the last post of mine for the phase, but in light of Shiny still posting pretty much nothing and what I said before:

In Shiny's case, it's because it's out of character for him. He'd normally be here talking up a storm.

That, and he's a bad liar, so if he says nothing, it could easily be he's hiding something.

EDIT: NOTE: Fixed a formatting issue. Nothing more.

It'd be one thing if he was inactive on the boards in general, but he's not. He's very active elsewhere while putting the bare minimum here, just voting on impulse and saying nothing else.

This is usually indicative of that player being a Mafioso, as others have done this.

Vote: ShinyLegendary

He's saying that Shiny's activity indicates that he's mafia, as this has happened in the past. He throws a vote out for Shiny, this post was at 12:05 PM, so eight hours before deadline.

Shiny's been more active, so there goes my whole reason for voting.
Unvote: ShinyLegendary

No idea who I'd vote for next. This day one has been far from productive.

But an hour and a half later, he says that because Shiny's made a few more posts, his whole reason for voting him is gone.

Isn't that suspect?

"I think because Shiny is active elsewhere, but not here, he has to be scum."
"Oh, Shiny's made a few posts after he's been on the hotseat? No reason to vote him now!"

One or two new posts shouldn't make you flip flop that quickly. When Golden votes for Shiny, he's doing it fully because he thinks there's a chance Shiny is mafia, he makes that reasoning clear. So why does he unvote so quickly? Shiny flipped town so I'm not trying to say that Golden was trying to buss. I think that this could be scum!Golden wanting to seem like he's participating when he really isn't.

Then, when Shiny flips town, we get this gem

Off to a great start, guys.

Golden here is acting like he never voted for Shiny at all. So what happened?

1. Golden uses Shiny's inactivity and comes to the conclusion he may be scum, noting that he's out of character.

2. But after a few posts from Shiny, Golden does a complete 180, even though those posts from Shiny did not contribute anything at all other than "trustworthy" or "can't trust". Why are those posts enough to make Shiny "in-character" again?

3. Golden acts completely innocent and unattached from Shiny's wagon and "applauds" the town for their lynch. As if he wasn't on the wagon, and as if he never considered Shiny could be scum.

This odd behavior, combined with his complete lack of scumhunting (once he unvotes Shiny, he says he has no idea who to vote for after, but he also doesn't make an attempt to ask other players questions, etc.) is what raises my eyebrow. Since he's done a full-claim and people knowledgeable of the flavor seem to believe it, I'm OK....... with this slot. But just OK.

 

[Pokechu]

post #1239

and aside from these posts quoted from Golden a lot of his posts are just replying and answering to questions. IDK I just don't find it a good look, but that might be hypocritical coming from me LOL