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My Mafia Academia -- ENDGAME: Bites Za Dusto

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As I said, if Z flips town, Goldie is scum because he'd be outright lying about his role because I myself never got notified.

But just like you, I have little doubt on Z not being scum. Heck, the very post you quoted literally says that.

So it's more of a "just in case I'm wrong" kind of scenario. But again, Z's behavior as well as how easy it'd be to disprove Goldie's claim make it very unlikely in my mind that Goldie's the liar here.
Gotcha, do you mind pointing me in the right direction of where you claimed the ability that you used, where you would be notified? I'm also having issues finding Gold's initial claim.

I'm flipping through pages, and for some reason, I'm not finding the page with it.
 

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It also helps that scum!Goldie has very often behaved in a pro-town way, making it easy for others to believe he's scum.

Heck, every time he's caught, it's usually because he ragequitted because no one expected him to be scum.
 

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Gotcha, do you mind pointing me in the right direction of where you claimed the ability that you used, where you would be notified? I'm also having issues finding Gold's initial claim.

I'm flipping through pages, and for some reason, I'm not finding the page with it.
For mine, just scroll up the page a bit... or not because I'll save you the time :V

Now that I'm awake, it's time to talk about what I did.

I targeted Goldie last night. Reason I went for him rather than any big suspicion I had was basically reverse psychology; any scum too suspicious would likely not do the kill.

But from my experience at least, I've learned to never ignore Goldie. The way he plays basically makes him a wild card, no matter the game we're in.

But anyway, the point is that, if Goldie's role is correct, both Z and I should've been notified. I wasn't.

But if Z's role is truly what it is, then Golden is scum. But the claim he's making is something that could be disproven too easily, so I'm inclined to think that he's the least likely to be lying in this scenario.

I know it sounds super convenient, but once I've read Goldie's claim, I've been questionning him about it in the thread for this exact reason,

Z has not answered, from what I can recall.
And here's Goldie's.
Might as well explain what the Navel Laser does, if that helps with any claims of what happened.

If I was targeted last night by two or more people, the laser would reveal to those who targeted me who else targeted me.

This is why I'm confused about Z25's claim. If his redirect counts as targeting me and I was shot at or Werekill's active ability was used on me, then Z25 and Werekill should have been alerted that the other had also targeted me or the one who shot me if I had been shot.
 

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Thanks! Didn't realize that your recent post was the first mention of an action from you.

Do you mind sharing what the ability was, or would you prefer not to?
I'd rather not to.

And we post at the same time lol
Clearly, we're the same people then :V

I'm currently buying the forger theory if Z25 flips as forger.
That... would explain why it was his first thought, actually.

But that's really the only way I can see this theory be a thing. At least based solely on the way Z talked about it.
 

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I'd rather not to.


Clearly, we're the same people then :V


That... would explain why it was his first thought, actually.

But that's really the only way I can see this theory be a thing. At least based solely on the way Z talked about it.
No worries on not claiming the ability; I think it's clear that I understand why not claiming can be useful.

And we are totally the same then lol. Totally.


But yeah, I'm leaning towards Z being Forger. It's the clearest explanation for why he hopped on that theory instantly.
 

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I’ll read up on the Z vs Werekill deal some more as today goes on.

Z hasn’t really said anything to make me change my mind about my vote. Were hasn’t left my “highly suspicious” list. A flip or investigation of one of them would be helpful.

I also have other ideas for other people but I’m not in a position right now to type out reasons so I’ll leave them out of it for now. (I’m getting ready to head out for the day and am in a rush of sorts)

Of note: Z being forger is the only possible way I would accept the forger thing.
“But why would I just out myself like that”
Exactly, why would a forger out themselves? Obviously to make them seem like they aren’t the forger and throw people off.
 

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Why were you so certain earlier, to the point of saying that I "bussed" Shiny? I 100% believe that was a slip earlier.
This might be a dumb question but could you explain what you mean here? What makes it a slip?

Very often I've used bussing in the same manner like "Oh you two were buddy buddy at first but now you're bussing him, what changed?", I think Z was just using it in that way, to mean that you went against Shiny afterwards.
 

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This might be a dumb question but could you explain what you mean here? What makes it a slip?

Very often I've used bussing in the same manner like "Oh you two were buddy buddy at first but now you're bussing him, what changed?", I think Z was just using it in that way, to mean that you went against Shiny afterwards.
Shiny flipped town. Bussing means to push against a scum partner to get town cred, IE "throwing them under the bus."

If Z is the incredible and amazing player he claims to be, he'd know exactly what the term is used for. So why is it suddenly bussing when Shiny, the "bussed" player, flipped town?

Now he's suddenly backing off his forger idea a bit, after getting pushed and caught on it. This is in stark contrast to his other posts where he is absolutely certain that the forger is real, and he gives no explanation for it. The lack of consistency in beliefs is because he has been caught in a lie and is scrambling.

The dude is scummy as hell, simple as that.
 

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Getting caught up BRB.
 

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Shiny flipped town. Bussing means to push against a scum partner to get town cred, IE "throwing them under the bus."

If Z is the incredible and amazing player he claims to be, he'd know exactly what the term is used for. So why is it suddenly bussing when Shiny, the "bussed" player, flipped town?

Now he's suddenly backing off his forger idea a bit, after getting pushed and caught on it. This is in stark contrast to his other posts where he is absolutely certain that the forger is real, and he gives no explanation for it. The lack of consistency in beliefs is because he has been caught in a lie and is scrambling.

The dude is scummy as hell, simple as that.
Yeeet!! But I think he just used it (bussing) as to go against in general. Kind of like slang LOL since I know there's been times I've used it similarly. To mean that one person was throwing another down, and not necessarily as "X was scum and in post #999 you bussed him to make distance"

I'm still OK with Z. I can understand why others are not, but I still don't think this behavior is suspicious, but rather confused and desperate. If you believed that you got a bingo, you'd be eager to push it, right? And even if he didn't reveal it until you came out, I think that's just a normal play; he wasn't getting the traction he wanted, so it was an attempt to make others listen. He's not scummy. He's being a silly goose :laugh: and I'd hate to vote that way today and have him flip town. The lack of consistency I feel is just him realizing how far in he went, and that he might be realizing some holes now (I don't think he ever responded to how if he redirected your action, you'd be dead now).

I'm rereading the thread now to see who I'm really suspect of
 

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Yeeet!! But I think he just used it (bussing) as to go against in general. Kind of like slang LOL since I know there's been times I've used it similarly. To mean that one person was throwing another down, and not necessarily as "X was scum and in post #999 you bussed him to make distance"

I'm still OK with Z. I can understand why others are not, but I still don't think this behavior is suspicious, but rather confused and desperate. If you believed that you got a bingo, you'd be eager to push it, right? And even if he didn't reveal it until you came out, I think that's just a normal play; he wasn't getting the traction he wanted, so it was an attempt to make others listen. He's not scummy. He's being a silly goose :laugh: and I'd hate to vote that way today and have him flip town. The lack of consistency I feel is just him realizing how far in he went, and that he might be realizing some holes now (I don't think he ever responded to how if he redirected your action, you'd be dead now).

I'm rereading the thread now to see who I'm really suspect of
You're misunderstanding.

It's not that he didn't reveal it until after I came out. He didnt reveal it until I voted for him.
 

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You're misunderstanding.

It's not that he didn't reveal it until after I came out. He didnt reveal it until I voted for him.
Hmmm

It can still be chalked up to him wanting a bit more traction (and wanting more people to consider what he was saying before hopping on the wagon).

This vote from you came at 10:23 PM for me
Quick read, but Vote: Z25.

Arguing so heavily based on flavor (with a random role that seems extremely rare, I should add) means he's either up his own butt or trying to be misleading.

Like forger isn't my immediate thought, I didn't even know the role existed. Why would he pick that role instantly to argue for?

Between this and his sketchy as hell behavior yesterDay, I'm all for this lynch. It would be hard to convince me otherwise.
10:24
Like this is the easiest lynch I've seen in a long time tbh
Z posted too at 10:24, which shows how busy the thread was
The problem with the sample role pms is its allmight and the main villain.

They have a **** ton of skills compared to every other character who has 1. So of course the sample pm would be detailed more as the samples foucs on multiple ability charcters, not one like most would logically be. So the sample pms wouldn’t need to be followed with so much detail if you know the show well
and then Z's very next post was in response to you (albeit he did not quote you), and this post is obviously leading up to him revealing his role.
Fine that’s how you wanna play eh?

Sorry not having it.

@GoldenYuiitusin were you shot last night?

Because according to his thread you should have
There is one character I have in mind. But it’s a pretty big spoiler for a baddie in season 3.

If golden answers you’ll see. I have strong reason to believe someone is lying here
Who the **** said I was supposed to be shot?
Because I’m Hitoshi Shinso the town redirector.

Last night I redirected were to you as you wanted people to target you. If were was being a shield(an active ability because that’s how the harden quirk works, it is a form change), then you should have been told you were shot and protected
I assume that Z did this since redirectors are pretty valuable, if he catches a mafia he can make them suicide. I know that's what happened in one of these games (YOU GO PRALINE! BEST REDIRECTOR LOL), he probably wanted to see the reception to his theory first (and probably expected it to be much more positive, haha)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're trying to push that since Z only make bigger steps in his theory (like revealing his role), that's evidence of him being a scum that wanted to relieve pressure? Like how if someone got one vote on them and was peeing their pants LOL yeah that's pretty sketch. But I don't really see it with Z. I think a lot of what he's done is way out there for scum. You can say that him revealing only once voted is scummy but what about everything else? Why would a scum push so hard to reveal a forge they presumably did (unless the forge is an indie)?
 

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I think that's what confuses me about Z. A lot of people are voting him because what he's saying doesn't add up. But does it make sense for him to do all of this as mafia? To create a conspiracy that Shiny's PM was forged, go all in D2, claim redirector (which is a common town role), point at Golden and yell you should be dead, etc.? That's what truly doesn't add up. For that reason, I'm townreading Z. I think he's a town who just got in over his head.
 

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I think Z is scum due to the Forger ridiculousness, his pushing of flavor, his strange behavior D1, and his continued-but-worsened behavior toDay.


I think that's what confuses me about Z. A lot of people are voting him because what he's saying doesn't add up. But does it make sense for him to do all of this as mafia? To create a conspiracy that Shiny's PM was forged, go all in D2, claim redirector (which is a common town role), point at Golden and yell you should be dead, etc.? That's what truly doesn't add up. For that reason, I'm townreading Z. I think he's a town who just got in over his head.

My best guess is that he did it in an attempt to earn town cred by "seeing through the scum plans" or some crap like that. His redirector claim was purely reactionary, much like his absurd defensiveness D1.

The sheer amount of emotional appeals vs actual content plus his misleading statements and arguments lead me to feel pretty damn certain that he is scum. Dude reeks.
 

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Shiny flipped town. Bussing means to push against a scum partner to get town cred, IE "throwing them under the bus."

If Z is the incredible and amazing player he claims to be, he'd know exactly what the term is used for. So why is it suddenly bussing when Shiny, the "bussed" player, flipped town?

Now he's suddenly backing off his forger idea a bit, after getting pushed and caught on it. This is in stark contrast to his other posts where he is absolutely certain that the forger is real, and he gives no explanation for it. The lack of consistency in beliefs is because he has been caught in a lie and is scrambling.

The dude is scummy as hell, simple as that.
I have not backed off of a forger theory. Now your lying to justify your points.

And really I’m the forger!? You need to brush up your skills after this game if you really think this.

Your idealology that forger is so rare that it must not exist this game!

Is quite frankly a dumb as **** reason to not believe a theory.

For you to not believe the forger means that you think shishoe is a liar. Are you really gonna sit here and call the host a liar? I doubt it. Your trying to push whatever angle you can to lynch me today and it’s amazing no one is calling you out in these obvious moves. You want me gone because I’m a treat to your scummy existence.

You're misunderstanding.

It's not that he didn't reveal it until after I came out. He didnt reveal it until I voted for him.
Hmmm

It can still be chalked up to him wanting a bit more traction (and wanting more people to consider what he was saying before hopping on the wagon).

This vote from you came at 10:23 PM for me

10:24

Z posted too at 10:24, which shows how busy the thread was

and then Z's very next post was in response to you (albeit he did not quote you), and this post is obviously leading up to him revealing his role.




I assume that Z did this since redirectors are pretty valuable, if he catches a mafia he can make them suicide. I know that's what happened in one of these games (YOU GO PRALINE! BEST REDIRECTOR LOL), he probably wanted to see the reception to his theory first (and probably expected it to be much more positive, haha)

Correct me if I'm wrong, but you're trying to push that since Z only make bigger steps in his theory (like revealing his role), that's evidence of him being a scum that wanted to relieve pressure? Like how if someone got one vote on them and was peeing their pants LOL yeah that's pretty sketch. But I don't really see it with Z. I think a lot of what he's done is way out there for scum. You can say that him revealing only once voted is scummy but what about everything else? Why would a scum push so hard to reveal a forge they presumably did (unless the forge is an indie)?
Absolutely this.

For the love of god werekill do you actually read? Your recent posts have told me no.

There was a ton of traffic at that time. How am I magically suppose to answer 10 different replies at once. I responded to you after I finishing responding to others because I did not see your post until then. You could have not voted me and I still would have claimed.


Using time to push a lynch when the thread was very active at the time I’d assine. It further backs my point up that your trying to push whatever angle you can to lynch me.

How the **** does no one see how scummy that move is?
 

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I think Z is scum due to the Forger ridiculousness, his pushing of flavor, his strange behavior D1, and his continued-but-worsened behavior toDay.





My best guess is that he did it in an attempt to earn town cred by "seeing through the scum plans" or some crap like that. His redirector claim was purely reactionary, much like his absurd defensiveness D1.

The sheer amount of emotional appeals vs actual content plus his misleading statements and arguments lead me to feel pretty damn certain that he is scum. Dude reeks.
Oh yeah he’s another thing.

Why would I claim redirector when if I wasn’t I would be ****ed.

A redirector is a role expected to be proved. So if I didn’t I would be dead next day. Even if I successfully lynched you I woud be killed the next day because according to you your town. And if I was scum I’d look very bad. So again why would I even try that?

I’m not an idiot as much as you seem to think I am
 

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For you to not believe the forger means that you think shishoe is a liar. Are you really gonna sit here and call the host a liar? I doubt it.
This... honestly wouldn't be the first time a NZ host outright lied about something in the game, to be fair.

But I still agree that just because a role is rare doesn't mean it can't be in the game. That's honestly a really dumb argument, Werekill.
 

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This... honestly wouldn't be the first time a NZ host outright lied about something in the game, to be fair.

But I still agree that just because a role is rare doesn't mean it can't be in the game. That's honestly a really dumb argument, Werekill.
This is true, but at the same time this is a pretty big thin to lie about even if unintentional.

I think before it’s been smaller things like roles. But I don’t fully recall.

Regardless having a character in this from a completely different series that’s not even third party, seems really unlikely considering shishoe said no Manga.

It be a very weird and unfitting choice in all honestly. Which is why I don’t see it. If it’s real then that’s a big inaccuracy to what we were told by shishoe which doesn’t realy happen. It’s minor stuff that a host unintentionally lies about. If there are a few manga characters then I’m positive shishoe would have said it’s from the show and a few manga characters, but no one too spoilery from there.

Also if there is one manga character there should be more correct? Yet no one has said they too are from the manga which is really odd. Claiming your from the manga wouldn’t even be a big deal if you don’t say your charcter.

So why has no one said that? It would instantly shut my forger theory down but no one has countered it. Which I find very intriguing. Because if there’s one manga character there is likely to be another.

However that doesn’t seem to be the case. So all those factors considered I don’t see my forger theory not being right.


Regardless this further proves my point that werekill is desperate for anything to try and use to lynch me and make me look scummy.

So I really don’t get why he’s not being voted. But whatever if I die then he is probably not gonna make it either
 

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I'm going to be real here and say that I see no further value in myself interacting directly with Z25.

You are genuinely unpleasant to have in this game, scum or town. Your ego and desperation are extraordinarily irritating, and I'm having to constantly check my own statements to keep from being insulting.

I, too, used to have a toxic playstyle. It didn't make it fun for anyone back then, and it's not fun now.

If anyone wants me to answer a specific point from Z25, please directly ask me whichever ones you want answered. I won't be interacting directly with Z25 any more.
 

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This... honestly wouldn't be the first time a NZ host outright lied about something in the game, to be fair.

But I still agree that just because a role is rare doesn't mean it can't be in the game. That's honestly a really dumb argument, Werekill.
This, I will reply to.

I'm not saying that it's unreasonable for it to be in the game. I'm saying that it's extremely strange that a rare role was his immediate assumption. Even with the statement that characters will be anime only, it's still a strange thing to latch onto right out of the gate.
 

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had to choose a really good one today... toDay is hot hot hot
 

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- Right off the bat, it looks like there isn't an RB at play which was my first suspicion. I mean it's not like it can't happen but it's looking to be pretty unlikely.

- Uni makes a good point in that Mafia would want Shiny to "flip" as scum if the work of a forger really did happen. To give the illusion of less scum members existing in the game. Although Z's comment about Shiny potentially having a decent kit also makes sense if they didn't want one of their own to be exposed. And it makes sense because a scum team wouldn't want Town to know they lost one of their most useful teammates. Werekill was the one that had knowledge of the spin-off manga but I don't think Scum!Werekill would sell himself out like that. Unless the argument is that he let it slip. I mean the flavor was that this is based only on the MHA Anime right? Z's claim has merit but I still find the claim a bit sketch tho.

- Lore Lore your Harden ability is only a one-shot and it works without any command? Usually for most PR's an action is needed to use the PR or else nothing happens. I find that a bit odd.

as an aside, using the word "harden" unironically like that is really off-putting. i must be 12 lol.

- Z making most of his arguments based on the flavor is weird but like I said, it is points to consider. But when it's the only thing to work with, then it gets a little muddy.

- Toaster makes a good point as well in that Werekill's PR claim (i'm not going to use the word Harden unironically again lmao) could be a cover up for him potentially being the forger. But this is all dependent on a forger existing in the first place which in itself is a leap.

- ...now Z claims to be the Town redirector? And that he redirected Golden? Or rather a shot was meant for Golden that got directed to Werekill? This is some IQ 9000 **** lmao.

- Wait now Werekill is claiming his ability is passive. Hence why he was able to defend himself. In that case, Werekill made no command making his Hard (not using the name lol) PR on himself in which Mafia's kill went from Golden to Werekill through Z's redirect PR. So now we're dealing with a situation of who was against Goldie or saw merit in killing him to mislead Town?

- Z is saying Werekill's PR has to be active but Werekill is saying it's passive?

- Okay I saw Goldie's post and it looks like i'm misunderstanding.

Ok, so what I get is.

Z25 tried to redirect Werekill to me.
Werekill didn't use an active ability.
Werekill was targeted by the Mafia and thus had his passive activate and use up.

Sound about right?
In this case, how would Z know about Werekill's PR? In that he had the ability to defend himself or anyone of his choosing?

- And then in pages 23-25, it became a situation of "he said-she said". So much walls of text that I don't want to go through. If I missed anything important there please let me know. I would really appreciate it.

I'm really doubting my thoughts from D1 about Z VS were being T V T.
 

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I'm going to be real here and say that I see no further value in myself interacting directly with Z25.

You are genuinely unpleasant to have in this game, scum or town. Your ego and desperation are extraordinarily irritating, and I'm having to constantly check my own statements to keep from being insulting.

I, too, used to have a toxic playstyle. It didn't make it fun for anyone back then, and it's not fun now.

If anyone wants me to answer a specific point from Z25, please directly ask me whichever ones you want answered. I won't be interacting directly with Z25 any more.
Fine I wasn’t getting anywhere either. But one thing.

My playstyle isn’t toxic. I’m not gonna take being insulted lightly though let alone from someone whose behavior hasn’t been the greatest. I only got harsher because you started an argument. I don’t hold anything against you personally. I don’t take lightly to be talked down to, laughed at, and basically being called dumb. So yeah I may sound like a **** but that’s because I wasn’t happy with how I was treated. So I’m sorry for any harsh feelings.

Like I said I hold nothing personal against you and hope you have the same thoughts. I’m fun to play with when I’m being treated a little fairer
 

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You didn't really miss anything in the text walls Ura Ura . It was Z making tons of appeals to emotion (including an appeal to Shishoe to end the Day early and "selflessly" sacrifice himself) and me calling him out on it.
 

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Fine I wasn’t getting anywhere either. But one thing.

My playstyle isn’t toxic. I’m not gonna take being insulted lightly though let alone from someone whose behavior hasn’t been the greatest. I only got harsher because you started an argument. I don’t hold anything against you personally. I don’t take lightly to be talked down to, laughed at, and basically being called dumb. So yeah I may sound like a **** but that’s because I wasn’t happy with how I was treated. So I’m sorry for any harsh feelings.

Like I said I hold nothing personal against you and hope you have the same thoughts. I’m fun to play with when I’m being treated a little fairer
You do realize that you started this behavior way before anyone said anything remotely like that, right?

This is textbook narcissistic behavior and legitimately bothers me. I'm doubling down on my being "done" after this post.
 

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Honestly I kind of see Knuckleduster like a "joke" character

Like, it's literally Batman right? LOL it makes sense he'd be the vig and if there's any character from the manga, making it a Batman-esque character would definitely be the way to go. It's tongue-in-cheek, similar to how in the Fire Emblem Mafia there was Sonic with a sword (blue hair sword-wielder LOL)

And yeah, Sonic was third-party, but I still wouldn't doubt "Batman" making his way into this mafia, considering he's one of the most popular heroes of all time, if not the most popular.
 

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This Werekill vs Z fight reminds me of Holder vs Goldie fights in the past. With Were being a mafia player goading a townie into looking more suspect because they’re getting frustrated cause nobody’s believing that they’re town. Honestly if we lynch Z and he flips town that’ll make me more suspicious of Werekill being a villain.
 

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But y'know, I think we're missing a big point in all this. It's what I said at the start of the phase.

Who were the ones pulling the most for Shiny's lynch D1? It's not concrete evidence but it's something that needs to be considered.
 

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Honestly I kind of see Knuckleduster like a "joke" character

Like, it's literally Batman right? LOL it makes sense he'd be the vig and if there's any character from the manga, making it a Batman-esque character would definitely be the way to go. It's tongue-in-cheek, similar to how in the Fire Emblem Mafia there was Sonic with a sword (blue hair sword-wielder LOL)

And yeah, Sonic was third-party, but I still wouldn't doubt "Batman" making his way into this mafia, considering he's one of the most popular heroes of all time, if not the most popular.
Considering the host is the Shishposter himself, who was the Knight of Onion Rings in that mafia... yeah, that just feels like it makes sense lol
 

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But y'know, I think we're missing a big point in all this. It's what I said at the start of the phase.

Who were the ones pulling the most for Shiny's lynch D1? It's not concrete evidence but it's something that needs to be considered.
I'm not even going to deny that I was one of those people.

I realize it puts a target on my head and it's exactly why I'm doing it myself instead of waiting until someone else tells you.
 

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This Werekill vs Z fight reminds me of Holder vs Goldie fights in the past. With Were being a mafia player goading a townie into looking more suspect because they’re getting frustrated cause nobody’s believing that they’re town. Honestly if we lynch Z and he flips town that’ll make me more suspicious of Werekill being a villain.
It also reminds me of Me VS Chu & Shish which is not something i'm proud of. Acting like a dumbass in that game and had no right doing what I did.
 

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I'm not even going to deny that I was one of those people.

I realize it puts a target on my head and it's exactly why I'm doing it myself instead of waiting until someone else tells you.
I just said it's something that needs to be considered. Obv, it's not lynch worthy material on it's own.
 

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This Werekill vs Z fight reminds me of Holder vs Goldie fights in the past. With Were being a mafia player goading a townie into looking more suspect because they’re getting frustrated cause nobody’s believing that they’re town. Honestly if we lynch Z and he flips town that’ll make me more suspicious of Werekill being a villain.
Here is how I legitimately expect things to go IF Z flips town. I still do not believe that he will flip town, but I am willing to entertain this idea in a hypothetical.

If Z flipped town, I would then almost immediately get killed N2 due to not having a bulletproof vest (my Harden Quirk), along with the drawback of not being able to be protected. If this does not happen, then I am 100% willing to accept my D3 lynch and would even vote for myself. My only condition would be that we still pressure and question other players to get as much info from my flip as possible.

However, that's not going to be the case. Z is going to flip as scum, then I will likely die N2 due to the aforementioned role issues. I claimed immediately to prevent a potential roleblocker from claiming and believing that their roleblock prevented the kill. I recognize that it painted a target on my back for N2, but it helped keep the waters clear for any roleblocker.

And again on that note: If you have a protective role, do not protect me tonight. My role directly prevents any protect attempts on me from working, as stated before. Please do not waste your protect on me.
 

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It also reminds me of Me VS Chu & Shish which is not something i'm proud of. Acting like a ******* in that game and had no right doing what I did.
Yeah sometimes you just gotta step away if it’s getting like that.

Or post it all in your role pm like I did in the villains mafia.
 
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