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At this point I'm convinced it's not for any gameplay reason, but rather that the suits won't let them add her until Wicked finishes its theater run so there's no accidental cross promotion. I can 100% see the execs like Zaslav being that petty and it sucks so much.
Stranger things have happened (whatever happened to Eleven anyway)

So what are your expectations of Marcy? I think she's either a tank or she is a bruiser with tank properties when she transforms. I do assume her bat form is a part of her moveset and not relegated to a rift boss or something

Also Aquaman tank anyone? We kinda starving for some tank content right now
 

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Stranger things have happened (whatever happened to Eleven anyway)

So what are your expectations of Marcy? I think she's either a tank or she is a bruiser with tank properties when she transforms. I do assume her bat form is a part of her moveset and not relegated to a rift boss or something

Also Aquaman tank anyone? We kinda starving for some tank content right now
I don't really see Marceline being a tank, I think she'll be either bruiser or assassin again. Aquaman is most likely going to be tank imo.
 

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Stranger things have happened (whatever happened to Eleven anyway)

So what are your expectations of Marcy? I think she's either a tank or she is a bruiser with tank properties when she transforms. I do assume her bat form is a part of her moveset and not relegated to a rift boss or something

Also Aquaman tank anyone? We kinda starving for some tank content right now
I can see Marceline being a Tank if and only if they choose not to give base Marceline and Bat Marceline different classes, and just default to Tank because of the Bat form. If they can be different classes, I think Assassin for Marceline's base form and Tank for the Bat form makes the most sense.

Aquaman is either Tank or Mage, depending on whether they lean into more of his durability or like, summoning whirlpools or lightning and whatnot.
 

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Any word on Dexter or Scooby?
Nothing outside of these two from this leaker; apparently this data was already uncovered closer to the start of S4 but went unreported or over our heads for a bit.

If I were to hazard a guess based on our current findings:

Season 5 - Aquaman and Wicked Witch
Season 6 - Ruby and Daffy

Season 7 seems like it's the earliest we'll hear of either Scoob[/SPOILER] or Dexter.
 

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Personally I'm glad we don't have to wait that much longer for Daffy. One of my top two most wanted, and both of them will be in the game with this. Insanity.

I'd ramp up Brak campaigning but I left twitter (and so did Andy Merrill) so I'm gonna need a few of you guys to either do it for me or convince Ajax and Nakat to sign up for Bluesky.
 

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At this point I'm convinced it's not for any gameplay reason, but rather that the suits won't let them add her until Wicked finishes its theater run so there's no accidental cross promotion. I can 100% see the execs like Zaslav being that petty and it sucks so much.
Zaslav do be horrible.
 

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Can't access MVS at the moment, is anyone else having the same problem?
Might be due to the upcoming event being unavailable?

That said, people are reporting this new event has Elusive variants again.

The way this event works is each involved character gets two variants. A school uniform and a super hero form (sorta like Sailor Moon and how the leads have two identities). The school uniforms have normal rarities, while the super hero forms are considered Elusive.
 

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So for season 5 it's looking like Aquaman and Ruby|| most likely right? If that's the case, the potential candidates comes down to

  • Wicked Witch
  • Daffy Duck
  • Dexter (circumstancial evidence)
  • Scooby Doo
  • Pennywise (also circumstancial evidence)

Then we have characters in a weird limbo, those being Pickle Rick, Mr. Meeseeks and Gandalf
 

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So for season 5 it's looking like Aquaman and Ruby|| most likely right? If that's the case, the potential candidates comes down to

  • Wicked Witch
  • Daffy Duck
  • Dexter (circumstancial evidence)
  • Scooby Doo
  • Pennywise (also circumstancial evidence)

Then we have characters in a weird limbo, those being Pickle Rick, Mr. Meeseeks and Gandalf
I'm guessing (and hope) that if Meseeks and Pickle Rick are happening they're going to be treated like Banana guard and be a bonus third character in their respective season, not actual season highlight.
 

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The way this event works is each involved character gets two variants. A school uniform and a super hero form (sorta like Sailor Moon and how the leads have two identities). The school uniforms have normal rarities, while the super hero forms are considered Elusive.
I try not to be too negative in this thread but man, them going back on no FOMO with the skins really burns.
 
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The school uniforms with a super hero alter ego might be one of the best original event concepts yet. That and the cyber event. Hope they get rerun with more characters.
 

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I try not to be too negative in this thread but man, them going back on no FOMO with the skins really burns.
Interestingly, this event also gives use a subversion on FOMO regarding the Bruce Wayne skin.
Last event, Bruce Wayne was FOMO, and had unique voice lines.
This event introduces Headmaster Wayne, who I presume is the Headmaster of the school (I haven’t played the rift yet. Only thing I know about it is there’s a cut PPG variant in it) that the others attend. It also has the Bruce Wayne VO and is not limited time only.
 

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uuuum....it appears that Mortal Kombat 1 future dlc has been cancelled following poor sales, allegedly

It's kinda unrelated but i saw MK1 as more popular than MVS right? I do hope this game doesn't get the axe if it keeps "underperforming"
MK1 was just not a good Kombat entry, imo. It needed more time in the oven like they’ve done for between X and 11, plus a third universe reset? Locking fan-favorites behind Assists? Classic Zaslav MTX-dependent revenue stream?

It was doomed from the start, even with the great graphics and (imo) great crossover selections.
 

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Locking fan-favorites behind Assists?
Well it at least had proof that Kameos could still be DLC through Cyrax and Sektor, if not the fact that they already had Scorpion/Sub-Zero/Kung Lao on the fighter and Kameo roster on day 1.

Too bad it can't prove that even more with later DLC passes.
 

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The thing about these Elusives in this event is that IDK when they could ever bring them back. The ones in the Halloween event could obviously return next Halloween, but Mystic Vista is too specific a concept for them to return to it when they surely have lots of other event ideas. :ohwell: We’ll see, I guess.

Anyway for me, for this event I’m considering getting Headmaster Wayne and Professor J with my free diplomas, but idk for sure yet.
 

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Well it at least had proof that Kameos could still be DLC through Cyrax and Sektor, if not the fact that they already had Scorpion/Sub-Zero/Kung Lao on the fighter and Kameo roster on day 1.

Too bad it can't prove that even more with later DLC passes.
I always mained Jax in MK games.

You can see why I didn’t pick up 1. :iwatanod:
 
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uuuum....it appears that Mortal Kombat 1 future dlc has been cancelled following poor sales, allegedly

It's kinda unrelated but i saw MK1 as more popular than MVS right? I do hope this game doesn't get the axe if it keeps "underperforming"
Isn't Mortal Kombat 1 the game that spent millions to hire Megan Fox for some of the worst poorly received voice acting in history? While also wasting serious cash on mediocre promotional crossovers for DLC?

Multiversus will be fine lmao.
 
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Isn't Mortal Kombat 1 the game that spent millions to hire Megan Fox for some of the worst poorly received voice acting in history? While also wasting serious cash on mediocre promotional crossovers for DLC?

Multiversus will be fine lmao.
Honestly all the guest fighters have been kind of eh, the only one that was mildly interesting was Omniman.

In turn, MVS has...i guess Jason? And Jason is a HUGE addition considering he's been in a complicated legal limbo for years that his first collab being freaking MVS is kinda crazy

It's so weird how natural he fits in this game
 
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Honestly all the guest fighters have been kind of eh, the only one that was mildly interesting was Omniman.

In turn, MVS has...i guess Jason? And Jason is a HUGE addition considering he's been in a complicated legal limbo for years that his first collab being freaking MVS is kinda crazy

It's so weird how natural he fits in this game
Mortal Kombat 1 wasn't received well from the beginning and is the type of franchise that benefits from immediately moving on to a sequel. They tried to steer it around but the interest wasn't there.

MVS is live service, I'll double down that the game should be fine since it's not like MK where it's pay to play.
 

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uuuum....it appears that Mortal Kombat 1 future dlc has been cancelled following poor sales, allegedly

It's kinda unrelated but i saw MK1 as more popular than MVS right? I do hope this game doesn't get the axe if it keeps "underperforming"
Looking at Steam charts number, both MVS and MK1 have very similar player number, so popularity wise they're around the same. But I think there's a few major differences with MK1 and MVS that makes me hopeful that MVS might still continue and not get shutown.

1. A MK dlc character and story probably cost much more to develop than a MVS character and rift update, meaning that even if MVS have around the same number of player, it's not as a big as a loss as MK

2. While there's no official source on that, I'm assuming that with MVS being free, players are much more open to buy skins, battle pass and other currencies, as opposed to Mortal kombat where I know a lot of players are opposed to buy more stuff after already paying full price for a game.

3. I'm assuming one of the reason why WB cancelled MK's dlc is that they know NRS can just move on to their next project faster now, which is going to be either Injustice 3 or another MK and it will sell a few millions. Player first games is more than likely too small to make a AAA game and they don't have a history of games selling great like NRS has, so it's much more risky to shutdown MVS, has WB would be stuck with a team that has no other experience in developing games and has no other project in development right now (I'm assuming NRS next project probably start at least pre-production).
 

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A MK dlc character and story probably cost much more to develop than a MVS character
Well the process of making an MK11/1 fighter includes making a 3D scan of a real person's head, including celebrities where applicable like Arnold Schwarzenegger for both the T-800 and Conan the Barbarian. So yeah, that would be very expensive compared to simplistic cartoony visuals.
 

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I'm a little dissapointed with how the comics seem to depict the Steven Universe characters (and to a lesser extent, the game). Someone in a discord server I'm in posted a panel from one of the Multiversus comics, and it has three mistakes
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  1. Garnet doesn't ask questions. It's an explicit part of her character (and something the game itself even tries to honor).
  2. Steven' healing powers work on himself. This is brought up in Future - he's basically Wolverine. He should be fine.
  3. Speaking of Future, that's explicitly the first time Steven goes to a hospital. The gems and him very much live on the outskirts of society (he also never goes to school). Not sure if that would be Garnet's first thought.
This is probably really nitpicky, and I'm not going to say "grr lazy writers they should have watched the entire show to make sure everything is lore accurate", but it's a bit disappointing to see and I wish they would have had someone who worked on the show take a look at it to make sure things were more consistent.
 

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In the most recent comic issue that came out today, we do have an explicit tease for Scooby-Doo

He's featured on a page that depicts the characters with their damage percent, basically.

View attachment 396455

Side note:
Nice on Shaggy's percent.
Yeah this is the other thing. A lot of people at the start said not to count unplayable characters in the comic as confirmations, but like...there's an incredibly vast difference between how the comic used characters like Big Barda, Captain Cold, and Gorilla Grodd, vs how they used Scooby and the Wicked Witch. Those two are VERY clearly implied to be playable and are also main characters.
 

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You know what's really weird about these comics? Despite being such a prominently featured franchise in the game, Adventure Time is nowhere to be found.
 

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I'm a little dissapointed with how the comics seem to depict the Steven Universe characters (and to a lesser extent, the game). Someone in a discord server I'm in posted a panel from one of the Multiversus comics, and it has three mistakes
View attachment 396454
  1. Garnet doesn't ask questions. It's an explicit part of her character (and something the game itself even tries to honor).
  2. Steven' healing powers work on himself. This is brought up in Future - he's basically Wolverine. He should be fine.
  3. Speaking of Future, that's explicitly the first time Steven goes to a hospital. The gems and him very much live on the outskirts of society (he also never goes to school). Not sure if that would be Garnet's first thought.
This is probably really nitpicky, and I'm not going to say "grr lazy writers they should have watched the entire show to make sure everything is lore accurate", but it's a bit disappointing to see and I wish they would have had someone who worked on the show take a look at it to make sure things were more consistent.
yeah that is quite irksome
 

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I'm a little dissapointed with how the comics seem to depict the Steven Universe characters (and to a lesser extent, the game). Someone in a discord server I'm in posted a panel from one of the Multiversus comics, and it has three mistakes
View attachment 396454
  1. Garnet doesn't ask questions. It's an explicit part of her character (and something the game itself even tries to honor).
  2. Steven' healing powers work on himself. This is brought up in Future - he's basically Wolverine. He should be fine.
  3. Speaking of Future, that's explicitly the first time Steven goes to a hospital. The gems and him very much live on the outskirts of society (he also never goes to school). Not sure if that would be Garnet's first thought.
This is probably really nitpicky, and I'm not going to say "grr lazy writers they should have watched the entire show to make sure everything is lore accurate", but it's a bit disappointing to see and I wish they would have had someone who worked on the show take a look at it to make sure things were more consistent.
The hospital thing can probably be excused, the Garnet thing is annoying but not like, egregious.
But how the hell do they miss one of Steven's major powers being his durability and healing factor, both of which are featured in the game?
 
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Speaking of the comics. Devoid huh? What a character. I'm very disappointed that we didn't get his true form but at least the Avia variant looks cool.

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The hospital thing can probably be excused, the Garnet thing is annoying but not like, egregious.
But how the hell do they miss one of Steven's major powers being his durability and healing factor, both of which are featured in the game?
The comic writers probably weren't aware of the nitty gritty with Steven, specifically the idea that he had a passive to heal himself without doing anything (which was only established in SU Future to be fair) and Steven's durability gets established in very specific later season episodes, it's not really used in MVS outside of his shields.

How Garnet is written is much worse since she's so talkative and literally describes herself as a "Crystallized Warrior" despite Garnet proudly saying she's a Crystal Gem since EPISODE ONE and in the game itself lmaooo. She's written so bad.
 
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So, with the way the game is portrayed in comic, would they still consider adding Avia?
I mean, I don't think she was ever seriously on the table one way or the other. Her usage always, to me at least, just seemed like a convenient jumping off point for the comic.
 
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At best Avia would be an NPC, maybe how Devoid appears in the game similar to the comic. She's not important at all in DC, she never even had a proper appearance in DC main canon up until Multiversus decided to do something with her concept. Maybe her parents could eventually be playable instead.
 

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Decided to unlock headmaster wayne and can confirm, he has the same voicelines as the Bruce Wayne skin which is neat
 

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At best Avia would be an NPC, maybe how Devoid appears in the game similar to the comic. She's not important at all in DC, she never even had a proper appearance in DC main canon up until Multiversus decided to do something with her concept. Maybe her parents could eventually be playable instead.
Eh, she could be considered a 2nd original character for multiversus next to Reindog, so i don't think that's too bad.
 

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Eh, she could be considered a 2nd original character for multiversus next to Reindog, so i don't think that's too bad.
I mean...

1. Multiversus didn't invent Avia, so by definition she isn't an OC.
2. Adding a second original character, other than adding Devoid/The Nothing as a boss if the game ever gets to close out its story, would be financial suicide. Almost nobody cares about Reindog as it is, so adding another OC as a post launch character at this point in time would leave the game on death's door.
 

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I mean...

1. Multiversus didn't invent Avia, so by definition she isn't an OC.
2. Adding a second original character, other than adding Devoid/The Nothing as a boss if the game ever gets to close out its story, would be financial suicide. Almost nobody cares about Reindog as it is, so adding another OC as a post launch character at this point in time would leave the game on death's door.
still could be better than adding two dc characters who may cause the series to bloat, though personally if they were to add her while avoiding the "death's door" situation they could pair with one or two characters who would keep players interested aswell as her maybe even being a surprisingly good character to play too.
 
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