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True. Killing is my biggest gripe with Game and Watch. Which is funny, because he's supposed to be a glass cannon.
I gave this thread a bump, asking everyone here what they thought of the new update coming on September 30. We ended up talking about changes we want to see Game and Watch get in patch that surely to follow. Participate if you so desire.
Killing F-air is my most wanted buff. N-air and B-air have just as much kill power, which shouldn't be a thing.
As a question to build on this, when I got Sliding Chef to work, I barley went anywhere. Yet here, you going almost 2 Game and Watches. If we learn how to get the glitch to work, we should figure out how to manipulate how far you slide.
hm yeah maybe it'd be easier than I thought. I mean, we're obviously not nearly as bad as Samus, our MU spread is p decent for a a character a lot of people consider low tier, but there are definitely some dumb things that don't make sense in any design, especially uair not connecting on 2nd hit. why is there KBG on the first hit? seriously.
both MUs are generally considered even (though we might have more of an edge on TL since he relies on bombs more, but idk i feel like he can punish bucket p bad), you have to be good at powershielding while approaching, and then you want to get in their face and bait out a panic option (link's tilts/jab, TL grab, etc) and punish from there, and that's the general idea I'd go by. I've never really fought a good TL or Link tho tbh so it's mostly just theorycrafting from me
"Showing the same thing over and over again but with different characters isnt really interesting.. Or hype." -Testcat
Also, GIMR lost a MM to a MI player not even in PR. In case anyone remembers this.
I ain't qualified to talk about this in the least but GimR's gameplay hardly seems optimized to me. That said, he has probably gotten more results than most other Game & Watch players, but AFAIK hasn't done as well lately (could be wrong here, haven't kept up with results). We need to start utilizing B-reverses more, particularly with Chef, as well as learning more uses for platforms and autocancel heights, IMO.
p much what JKBUK said, most of our moves are too laggy and dont hit hard enough to really capitalize off of it, especially against characters with good, fast oos options. we have a couple new tricks, mainly uair>jab>sometimes grab, but that's about as far as it goes for helping us. Defensively it doesn't help since our oos shield options aren't great.
It's more or less already a p big part of our (really good) offstage game, not much more to explore about it.
No, he by and large suffers for it. Fair is literally too strong to benefit because it bypasses shield lock frames, and back air / down air safety hasn't significantly changed. Meanwhile, characters with safe aerials with generous landing lag are by and large benefitted.
Fair enough, lol. Yeah, AFAIK Judge is our only other B-Reversable special and you could get some good surprise attacks from it and hope for a 9, especially off platforms/ledges (run off then B-reverse it). Chef has notable edgeguarding potential, trapping shields/pressuring options, and can cause problems for larger characters with getting up from the ledge. I speak from being on the receiving end of the last one, but I'm not sure if some of my troubles with it stem from Wi-Fi lag.
placebo, we've already tested kill percents from 1.1.0 to 1.1.1
nice! I assume you display each pose? Pretty awesome!
I'd prefer one where he interacts with his turtle, kind of like how Lucas has a short conversation with Rope Snake as one of his taunts.
In his empty cake box. It used to have a cake in it, but Kirby ate it at some point or another, which is why the move is so weak and not-so-laggy in 4.
