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ChikoLad

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Everyone doesn't act the same in 3D World. Peach is ditzy and girly and acts surprised at the idea of doing well, while Rosalina is cool and confident in herself, showing a competitive side, while still maintaining a reserved gentle and tender vibe.

The problem with the Mario fan base is that you guys don't grasp the concept of Rosalina's (or any character for that matter) character being added to, which is what they have been doing with her in spin offs. They haven't retconned anything about her. Just added to it. She can have a dark past, and a motherly nature, while still having a cocky competitive side. It gives her more depth. They don't cancel out each other.

It's known that Koizumi is strict on Rosalina being included in games and cares about how she is portrayed. If she was just another Peach, she wouldn't still be showing up. That isn't what made her popular, and isn't what's maintaining her popularity or appearances.

No point in me saying this though since you want her to be like Peach anyway and brush off anything that counters that idea (Lumas in Mario Golf were not irrelevant).

They don't reboot Rosalina each game, each appearance adds to her character and fleshes it out. Same with other characters.
 

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Well the humour in GT videos is bad anyway so the show has nothing going for it.

I didn't post my debunk around too much because it's impossible to get everyone to see but everyone who has seen it agrees with me.
That is personal opinions, so I won't agree nor complain about that.

Yeah, otherwise people might think that you take this debunk too seriously, which isn't good.
Actually Rosalina's character has taken a different turn from Super Mario Galaxy.

This is because Mario characters are so simplistic that their voices are one of their biggest feature that gives them Consistency in portrayal.

Cheerful? Mario
Scary and sometimes heroic? Luigi
Loud and Obnoxious but always energetic? Daisy
Gentle , soft spoken and Girly? Peach.
Tough and very greedy? Wario
Nonsensical tough sounds? Bowser
Nonsensical cute sounds ? Yoshi
Nasal and funny? Waluigi

Now Rosalina , where do i put you?

Mature and Motherly? Not anymore.
Cheerful and laid back? Not anymore.

or maybe Gentle ... Soft Spoken and girly? like Peach? Yes.

That's the direction they are going with Rosalina considering that Games that give her a different angle , a more important one , passed already.

MK games? zero depth. 3D World? Everybody acts the same? MP? Everybody acts the same. Mario Golf? Lumas making cameos aren't relevant.

Now i truly don't care about it , mainly because i like Peach. And Rosalina behaving , sounding , or being Blue Peach isn't bothering me since it's irrelevant.

It's not like she sounds identical to her , it's more like the vibe it gives only screams ''Peachy'' , and nothing more beyond that.

Rosalina from back then isn't Rosalina from nowadays.

Rosalina from back then was a cool NPC , that stayed true to herself and was relevant to the game.

Rosalina from nowaways is just the alternative to Peach or Daisy as a newcomer in a spin off.

Tired of Peach and Daisy? Go and play Rosalina. That's basically the main purpose.

They certainly didn't stick to her old portrayal , but ironically All of Rosalina's models have a very wise and composed facial expression , which doesn't match with the ''Whohooo!!!'' that always comes now.

That's actually the thing that bothers me , for example in MP10. Rosalina barely smiles , yet a super Girly sound plays.

Doesn't make sense .
Um…um… to me, Rosalina is still Rosalina that I used to know…
 

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i don't want Rosalina to be like Peach , even though she is clearly becoming a wannabe sometimes.

My point is that , i came to understand why it doesn't really surprise me or annoy me that much ; It's because i like characters that are very soft spoken and very graceful. Princess Peach , besides being taken by Bowser , has Always been like that since day 1. That's why i like her so much , and that's why i don't care too much for Daisy since she is too extra for my taste.

Before Rosalina got her ''soft and femenine'' voice , Peach already did that , and before Rosalina even existed Peach , as the Princess she is , already had qualities of a true Lady ; again she is a Princess above all.

The quality that Peach didn't have , is what Rosalina had , Standing up as a Leader figure. Nowadays , i don't see it anymore , it's just not in there.

Since Peach was already too soft and Daisy too loud , what would be Different? A mature figure, what Rosalina represented. And Now that she behaves Pretty much like any other character already did , what's the point of her character again?

I'll answer: Female representation. Rosalina is being added only because there's nobody else that matters and that's female , and the popularity factor contributes to that.

Then again it's still sad , since nobody says anymore ''They'll add Rosalina because she is a great character''.

Rosalina's current popularity is plain trash since everybody says ''I hope Rosalina is in because she is hot , in a swimsuit , her legs , a biker suit'' etc.

Back to the point , the bottom line is , i don't mind Rosalina being generic now since the other characters in Mario behave the same most of the time , sure i would argue that characters like Waluigi are 10 times more unique than Rosalina , which is true but doesn't matter anyway.

It doesn't hurt anymore , like every other character , she'll be happy and simple minded , giggling by no reason and not having anything unique about her aside from her past.

The only thing that i can see unique in Rosalina that Will never change is the Bangs in her hair , that is pretty trademark of hers , and her Main dress. Anything else , is a variation of either Peach or Daisy at this point.
 
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I don't give a **** what anyone says, I'll always remember Rosalina for who she really is and that will never go away.
 

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It really just seems like you are convincing yourself of things that aren't really true. If you prefer to think of Rosalina as a Peach clone then go ahead, but it's not really the case and the assumption ignores a lot of facts about the character.

But the bit about her "current popularity being trash" is nonsense. Every fan base has a small minority of people who are only there because they think the character is hot, Rosalina is no different. But most of the people who do think she's hot, do not hold it as the sole reason for liking her. They adored the actual character and later on realised "well hey she's actually hot too". It's more like a bonus to most people and not the sole thing driving her popularity.

That carry on is much more prevalent in the Peach and Daisy fanbases anyway since those characters have less depth to begin with. And Peach in particular has had sexualized portrayals in official material so it's flat out encouraged with her.
 

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It really just seems like you are convincing yourself of things that aren't really true. If you prefer to think of Rosalina as a Peach clone then go ahead, but it's not really the case and the assumption ignores a lot of facts about the character.

But the bit about her "current popularity being trash" is nonsense. Every fan base has a small minority of people who are only there because they think the character is hot, Rosalina is no different. But most of the people who do think she's hot, do not hold it as the sole reason for liking her. They adored the actual character and later on realised "well hey she's actually hot too". It's more like a bonus to most people and not the sole thing driving her popularity.

That carry on is much more prevalent in the Peach and Daisy fanbases anyway since those characters have less depth to begin with. And Peach in particular has had sexualized portrayals in official material so it's flat out encouraged with her.
The main reason why I like Rosalina has to be her back story, I really won't be that much of the fan if it wasn't her amazing back story.

Rosalina and Peach are both great female character in Mario franchise, but they are definitely not clones.
 

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Great backstory + powerful but motherly figure + breathtaking beauty = WIN. Nuff said.

And, sincerely, I don't care about the personality of the characters inside spin-offs. There isn't much space for great personalization when the only thing you have to do in the games is playing board games or race with karts. This doesn't mean the characters have to be just sticky figures but with practically no dialogue or plot is difficult to appreciate such features.
It's really different on games like SMG, Sunshine or the Mario RPG saga.
 

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Great backstory + powerful but motherly figure + breathtaking beauty = WIN. Nuff said.
This gets extended even further when your pair Rosalina with a vehicle that looks cute and cuddly; this is often why whenever I play Mario Kart 8, I like to pair Rosalina with the Biddybuggy.
 

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This gets extended even further when your pair Rosalina with a vehicle that looks cute and cuddly; this is often why whenever I play Mario Kart 8, I like to pair Rosalina with the Biddybuggy
About MK8, I ordered it yesterday and it should arrive soon, I really want to see how the new changes affects the gameplay. I'm one of those people who think that the DS version is the best and after that the saga hasn't reached that pinnacle. I hope this game will change my mind :)
 

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About MK8, I ordered it yesterday and it should arrive soon, I really want to see how the new changes affects the gameplay. I'm one of those people who think that the DS version is the best and after that the saga hasn't reached that pinnacle. I hope this game will change my mind :)
In terms of how the driving feels, I think MK8 it is the best, since the vehicles feel like they have weight to them. And it also has my favourite track designs. And of course, the graphics and music are the best they've ever been.

But the item balance is bad and the game is lacking in modes and features outside of bog standard racing. Battle Mode is there but it's not very good since it takes place on the race tracks and not in specialised battle arenas.
 

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Don't know what's with the obssesion with the BiddyBuggy.

Personally i don't like that kart whatsover. The best vehicle for Rosalina is the Circuit Special or the Sports Bike imo.
 

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I go with the Comet Bike usually since I think it fits her best, for obvious reasons.

Or sometimes the Yoshi Bike since I love Yoshi too.

If I want to use a Kart I tend to use the Blue Falcon or something.
 

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Don't know what's with the obssesion with the BiddyBuggy.

Personally i don't like that kart whatsover. The best vehicle for Rosalina is the Circuit Special or the Sports Bike imo.
I just think that the Biddybuggy makes Rosalina feel a whole lot cuter. I know that it's mostly a vehicle used by the baby characters, but there can be exceptions to the rule.
 

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The Circuit Special or the Pipe Frame looks way better for Rosalina than that ****ty ass Biddybuggy, really.
 

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The Circuit Special or the Pipe Frame looks way better for Rosalina than that ****ty *** Biddybuggy, really.
Speaking of which, I still have that one screenshot which goes well with the current topic; Circuit Special vs. Biddybuggy.

 

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I ran into this thing and thought it was interesting. Coffee Cream Rosalina, I guess?

 
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I ran into this thing and thought it was interesting. Coffee Cream Rosalina, I guess?

I somewhat really like her pose…

And I guess you guys have already heard about this glitch, but now we finally have the video on Rosalina.
 

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Rosalina and Peach are both great female character in Mario franchise, but they are definitely not clones.
No love for Daisy? :(

Anyways, if I play Mario Kart 8 as Rosalina, I use the City Tripper + Slicks + Super Glider (more air speed) for competitive reasons.
 

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I found this,

NOT from the Zelda social, actually

Rosalinda is honestly one of the worst designed characters ever, I don't mean in smash I just mean the character herself. You're going to tell me that she's the goddess of the cosmos, or what the **** ever, and she decides to wear a gown from K-mart? Out of all of the places in the universe to shop and she chooses to shop at K-mart??? Honestly she's a fraud, no goddess shops at K-mart. Rosalinda has been EXPOSED as the fake goddess she is.
Please discuss response options pls&ty

I'll go find the originator and respond with the best responses from here. ;)
 
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I found this,

NOT from the Zelda social, actually



Please discuss response options pls&ty

I'll go find the originator and respond with the best responses from here. ;)
Rosalina shops at K-mart to blend in with us trash tier mortals.

This is because she is engaging in a tactical espionage mission on Earth.




Perfect set up to tease this.

Yes I'm still working on it. I didn't forget about it, Tino. :p
 

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No love for Daisy? :(

Anyways, if I play Mario Kart 8 as Rosalina, I use the City Tripper + Slicks + Super Glider (more air speed) for competitive reasons.
I've ended up developing a big grudge towards the Slicks during the past set of months. The Slims may be a tad slower, but they do offer a small handling boost, AND they don't hinder the water speed stat so heavily, so they're better suited for just about any kind of terrain.

Frankly, I find it quite disturbing that the vehicle parts that have the highest stat totals are often ignored for having low ground speed statistics. Of course it also doesn't help when the acceleration system is heavily flawed as well.

I like to try to give vehicle parts like the Biddybuggy more attention, and amusingly, something about that vehicle body really made me want to pair Rosalina with it.

Edit: On a different subject, here's a rather neat Rosalina drawing that I came across recently.

 
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I found this,

NOT from the Zelda social, actually



Please discuss response options pls&ty

I'll go find the originator and respond with the best responses from here. ;)
Why do such people call her "Rosalinda"? Like it's her Italian name, and as far as I'm concerned, he isn't speaking Italian...
 

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Why do such people call her "Rosalinda"? Like it's her Italian name, and as far as I'm concerned, he isn't speaking Italian...
If one happens to be on a smart phone, they often auto correct Rosalina to "Rosalinda" if it's set to the English language.
 

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rosalinda ismy favorite characterI really like hre big booty pls post pics THANKS!!! :)

hope u guys like her booty like me ^_____________^
 

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Now this is why the Rosalina fans are given a bad name.

I've ended up developing a big grudge towards the Slicks during the past set of months. The Slims may be a tad slower, but they do offer a small handling boost, AND they don't hinder the water speed stat so heavily, so they're better suited for just about any kind of terrain.

Frankly, I find it quite disturbing that the vehicle parts that have the highest stat totals are often ignored for having low ground speed statistics. Of course it also doesn't help when the acceleration system is heavily flawed as well.

I like to try to give vehicle parts like the Biddybuggy more attention, and amusingly, something about that vehicle body really made me want to pair Rosalina with it.

Edit: On a different subject, here's a rather neat Rosalina drawing that I came across recently.

I much prefer the feeling of the Slicks, since they kind of slide across the road.

But avoid the Monster Wheels at all cost! These bad boys hinder every stat except weight and grip!
 

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rosalinda ismy favorite characterI really like hre big booty pls post pics THANKS!!! :)

hope u guys like her booty like me ^_____________^
For the sake of all the users who come here, please do not go there.

I much prefer the feeling of the Slicks, since they kind of slide across the road.

But avoid the Monster Wheels at all cost! These bad boys hinder every stat except weight and grip!
Yeah the Monster and Hot Monster are quite awful for most tracks. Strangely, they do get some usage in the 200cc.

Still, for the most part, you're better off using the Metal and Gold Tires if you want that weight boost.
 

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Rosalina shops at K-mart to blend in with us trash tier mortals.

This is because she is engaging in a tactical espionage mission on Earth.




Perfect set up to tease this.

Yes I'm still working on it. I didn't forget about it, Tino. :p
You can take as much time as you need on that pic, Aaron. There's no rush. :)
 

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I do apologize for my impudence but my previous post was intended to be a joke. Anyway, I have news, IGN just announced that Nintendo is making a new platform, as well as a Super Mario Galaxy 3! (I think.) I feel honestly upset about this due to the fact that this new console might tip the Wii U out of balance but I know they'll still support the Wii U. I truly hope that this will have graphics inspired by "Unreal Engine 4." Best of all, in my prediction for 2020-2030, they will probably have Nintendo virtual worlds. I have some picture I would like to share with all of you.
You may find more information on this website: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/06/nintendo-to-unveil-nx-concept-before-e3-says-analyst
 
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I do apologize for my impudence but my previous post was intended to be a joke. Anyway, I have news, IGN just announced that Nintendo is making a new platform, as well as a Super Mario Galaxy 3! (I think.) I feel honestly upset about this due to the fact that this new console might tip the Wii U out of balance but I know they'll still support the Wii U. I truly hope that this will have graphics inspired by "Unreal Engine 4." Best of all, in my prediction for 2020-2030, they will probably have Nintendo virtual worlds. I have some picture I would like to share with all of you.
You may find more information on this website: http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/01/06/nintendo-to-unveil-nx-concept-before-e3-says-analyst
This isn't funny either… This SMG3 art has no Rosalina in the cover?


Limited Edition Floating Rosalina Amiibo. :V
Gosh, the first defect Rosalina amiibo I've ever seen.
 
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