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We aren't calling out anyone.
It's weird, because they nerfed Shulk A TON. But also buffed the hell out of him!
Sir, please stop playing god. This thread was not made to hate on anyone or anyone's characters specifically. Make another hateful remark and I will block you from this thread.
. You want to know what is really annoying? Outplaying your opponent all game and then making one small mistake and losing your last life at 50% at center stage while your opponent is at 150%. Most comeback mechanics don’t bother me, but his waft comes out so fast that you can usually not react to it, it has a huge hitbox, it can be combined into with f-tilt, and it kills at such low percents at mid stage. Even if you shield it, the move is good at breaking shields and his f-smash takes you out early as well. Aside from his waft, Wario is not that annoying to fight, but that one move just ruins it for me. It is not even that fun to watch anymore. Anytime I see it in highlight videos, I groan because every Wario clip feels the same.
- I really feel like this guy is too fast for how strong he is. Combine that with super armor and a command grab and you have an extremely aggravating character. - When he hits your shield you may as well just put the controller down because you’re just not punishing this character. And definitely don’t think about trying to air dodge out of his up tilt strings. - I just love it when I die at 50% because I did one bad ledge option. - Two words: Splat Roller.//- I hate these three for the same reason: that being that I have to completely change how I play when I fight them. I have to play lame and essentially nickel-and-dime them to death or else I run the risk of dying at absurd percents because these characters are poorly designed. - I swear I hear the Mega Buster sound in my sleep after fighting this robot. What’s worse is that every Mega Man plays exactly the same. - Two words: PK Fire./ - Do these two really need an introduction? - Holy ****, this character has some annoying moves. Razor Leaf, up air, down air, Vine Whip. Ivysaur is a hodgepodge of nonsensical hitboxes. - I wouldn’t have any problems with Ridley if his command grab didn’t drag you to the other side of the stage AND kill. - It’s Sonic. Need I say anymore? - It is im-goddamn-possible to catch this slippery wench if she doesn’t want to be caught.
Mostly Joker and Lucario, because it buffs their entire kit to the max for taking hits. More Joker than Lucario because Lucario might die from a stray hit if he messes up at max aura, not necessarily the case with Joker.
Who knows, the people I play might be super into Persona. I'm just saying a lot of them just don't do a lot in the way of real interaction until Arsene comes out, and dealing with that really isn't all that fun to play against. There are still a very large number of them online, which has gotten a bit stale now. They doodle around and throw out Eihas for a bit (dash back Eiha is their favorite move), maybe a couple aerials, whiff juggles into grappling hook combos, go a little too nuts with the guard to charge the meter, get Arsene, then I have to camp out Arsene and play lame so as to not take nutty damage (or just die) from Arsene. Then when Arsene goes away the roles reverse again, and so on.
More than likely they’re only using those same moves instead of mixing things up due to not actually knowing how to play as Joker (like with the Belmonts and the B Button abuse), but the tug of war is a reasonable complaint for many characters
I just find him frustrating to fight. Majority of my problems can be solved by getting better at the game, but I mean you pretty much explained why I don't like fighting him. Arsene comes out rather fast too.
I heard Arsene's timer runs out faster the more he takes damage. Unfortunately I'm not able to deal much damage anyway when he comes out, but that's because of my lack of skill.
Wait...Link is a heavy?In general, Smash online makes me hate fighting heavyweights, Projectile spammers, and Swordies. Most specifically:
Heavyweights:
Projectile Spammers:
Swordies:
Whoops thought he was one the last time I checked the weight list.
Link enjoys eating sandwiches and using machine guns, yes :-P
or sometimes I just blow up without even knowing it.
, Ryu, Toon Link, and Mega ManLink fills 2/3 of those categories, and it isn’t the one you chose...In general, Smash online makes me hate fighting heavyweights, Projectile spammers, and Swordies. Most specifically:
Heavyweights:
Projectile Spammers:
Swordies:
I'm curious, that's a lot of fighters. I understand most of them, but where do
Some of these characters are easy to pick up. Others have degenerate play styles. And others, still, can spam their attacks and win without much effort. That's how I feel about all these characters.
fall in your book?
How can you hate Ness and his PK Fire...but not also hate Lucas and his PK Freeze?
I'm curious, that's a lot of fighters. I understand most of them, but where do
: Easy to pick up.: Degenerate play style. : Spam attacks without much effort and win.
-For the same reason someone else mentioned here. If the ZSS player wants to play keep-away then get ready for misery.-Oh hey don't mind me just killing you with my powerful up-smash that comes out as fast as most up-tilts.
Bayonetta isn't that easy to pick up. There's a reason she and Palutena was excluded from the beginning of World of Light versus Kirby.
or ? that have arguably more annoying attacks to spam.
Considering Bayonetta relies a lot on her same combo from SSB4, I'd say that is easy. I bet wavebouncing is more difficult. I don't buy Sakurai's reason for having Kirby as the beginning character. Mario could have been the first as well. Mario is so basic, and I personally find characters who require a bit of thought to be worthwhile. Mario is fun, but because he's basic, I don't use him. Ness is a bit more technical, what with his PSI Magnet and gimpable recovery. His grab is garbage, and in spite of having a poor recovery throughout the series, people ******* about his d-smash preventing his opponents from returning. Weak, Sakurai. Weak.Bayonetta isn't that easy to pick up. There's a reason she and Palutena was excluded from the beginning of World of Light versus Kirby.
And Dr. Mario is harder to learn than you think. You have to work around his poor frame data, bad recovery, and lack of decent combos in order to play well as him.
As for Mario, why is being easy to pick up a bad thing? That's basically like hating on new players who want an easy to learn fighter. Besides, why hate Mario and not other easy to pick up fighters like
What "degenerate" playstyle does Rosalina have exactly? I can think of other fighters who have worse ways of being played. Besides, Rosa got so heavily nerfed from Smash 4 I almost never see her played anymore.
I've never heard of Greninja spam before. Everyone I know who has . played him says he requires a lot of effort and focus to get used to.
As for Zelda, there are much spammier fighter like
If you mean the basic side B to up B combos, yes. But the crazy ladder combos people picked up from Smash 4 (and are still used sometimes in the right scenarios in Ultimate) require a bit of practice and just be easily picked up. Actually learning how to play neutral as Bayonetta and get around her weird recovery takes time to learn.
He specifically said that the fighter had to be capable of escaping Galeem's attack as well as being easy to play. According to Sakurai, Mario simply was unable to avoid being killed. I'm not sure why you wouldn't understand that.
You do realize most fighters other than Little Mac can camp and play defensively, right? There are many ways to play each fighter.
No zoner has good CQC options. That's why they're called zoners.
Because PK Freeze is much, much harder to get hit by than PK Fire. Ness also has a lot of other cancerous things going for him that Lucas doesn’t.
I find them both to be massive pains. Ness is already annoying, but most Lucas players I fight only wanna use PK Fire and especially Freeze (but only if they can run away from people)
I suppose this is subjective.
And of course, he was biased in his choice. There are a few characters who could have avoided such event. Since Galeem's attack was universal, there wouldn't be any way for Kirby to avoid it. Even a pocket dimension would need to be in the same dimension in the same way a pocket is part of a shirt. Consider also that those beams were fast enough to pass the warp star.
Actually, you can play campy and defensive with Little Mac if your opponent doesn't have any projectiles or poor projectiles. It's never happened to me, but I know someone who is has happened to.
Comparatively speaking, there are zoners who have better CQC options than Samus.
PK Freeze is faster, has more knock-back, can kill in double digits, and has a larger blast radius. Lucas' PK Fire is far more annoying than Ness' PK Fire. It moves horizontally in the air, which allows for you to maintain your distance. It has good knock-back that can kill you off-stage. If you use a projectile of your own, PK Fire can hit you anyway. If you get hit by Ness' PK Fire, you can just jump out of it. You're probably only screwed if you're off-stage and a smart Ness spams it to rack up damage, rather than caring about your feelings or what you think of the player. Then there's Lucas' PK Thunder. I don't know why that's not used as often against opponents off-stage when it goes through opponents and pushes them away. The worst you have against Ness' PK Thunder is the tail.
We must not be playing the same game.
If you want to talk science, Kirby can run faster than the speed of light on foot and was able to run fast enough to escape the event horizon of a black hole without being torn apart. Kirby is indestructible and can break the laws of physics, and god knows what the Warp Star can do. If it can move faster than the speed of light (which it can), then it means when we see Kirby he's actually much farther ahead. It's possible that when we "saw" the laser beams catch up to Kirby he was actually thousands, probably millions, of miles away. And when he disappeared it's likely that, according to Einstein, he literally traveled back in time. Or, if you want to take a more relaxed approach from Hawking, the speed generated by the Warp Star by going that freaking fast (and breaking the laws of physics several times at this point), combined with the added mass by traveling that fast, (and on another note, Kirby could also be being shot to the future), a singularity was generated that warped spacetime and brought Kirby to the future and into the World of Light, where he was able to defeat Galeem and free the rest of the fighters.
Ouch. I feel bad for this guy.
This is the funniest thing I've read today. I've yet to see any of this. This is no scientific talk, either. This is pure fiction. I'll go with the bias for one's own creation.
This makes me sad.for me :
Agree, there are too many Yoshi haters.
In what alternate dimension? Doc has amazing frame data for somebody with as much power as he has. He shares most of his moveset with Mario, and we all know how annoying fast his moves are.
