Monster Mafia - Game Over! Was the Beast slain, or did evil overcome?

[FullMetalLynch]

god zen your claim is so crap you have no idea

 

[FullMetalLynch]

also the fuq are you voting mac for if you think wl is scum you crazy person

 

[FullMetalLynch]

No, your claim is worse than crap, you have no idea how janky your role sounds

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I personally prefer lynching mac over laundry. But laundry's role does seem fake especially considering that the flavor doesn't match up. There's some possible tells wrt him and the flipped peeps. But ultimately if he's scum, gorf did some epic bussing or he is in fact an Indy. Gorf pushed Bardull since the start and continuously brought attention to him thoughtout day 1. It makes perfect sense to me that he chose Rajam as his target. And looking at Nabe's posts from day 2 it is very likely that he received the rajam message. So again gorf is either a busser beyond bussers, indy, or town. Right now I'd like to ignore the discrepancies in his role/flavor and give him the benefit of the doubt which I think their play deserves.

We need to stop focusing on the role shenanigans and lynch actual scummy/anti-town people. I.e mac.

Lynching Xatres is the most anti town thing I have possibly ever seen. I've never seen a group of people deliberately play against their win condition.

Werekill / Rake if you seriously believe we can be scum, you have lost my respect. For that reason, I am not willing to leave the game to you. Normally if I felt I was a hindrance to progressing the game, I would lay down as Xatres did, but I cannot trust that you will win the game. And the last time I left the game to Gheb, he failed me deeply.

Ash, we lynch Maman today. I'll here what Laundry has to say however.

-Z

Dont act likezen wouldnt pull this **** as scum cause he totally would.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

So I'm thinking laundry is likely scum. Scumpool for me is WL >>> Joey

 

[FullMetalLynch]

how is joey in your scum pool at all holy ****

 

[#HBC | Mac]

poe really

zenshemu's role is a pretty **** claim but there are tons of other things that make them not the play. plus at least he doesn't have a tracker night action showing him as no visit when he claims to have a visiting role (aka WL)

if theres 1 scum left, then scum going in to yesterDay would be willing to leave all the lynch possibilities open. So it is a lil weird that WL would claim joey town. Does the benefit of appearing to be a clear PR outweigh the benefit of getting a joey mislynch?

 

[Ｚｅｎ✦ｓｈｅｍｕ]

Vote: washedlaundry

At long last zenashemu is as one.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

will wait for WL to talk before I vote, I want to know why he chose FML

 

[Lore]

... Or maybe Laundry actually is an amnesiac cop, and he actually targeted Joey.

There are two perfectly reasonable possibilities for Laundry not visiting anyone. Either he was roleblocked (which is 100% possible) or Dancer ran it as Jerkus dying leading to no result. Just because NAR or whatever is standard does NOT mean Dancer is running this game that way.

 

[Lore]

Talking to Mac with that one, ninja got in the way.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

zen if we lynch wl and he's town, then what ?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

how is joey in your scum pool at all holy ****

Joey should be in like everybody's lynch pool at this point of the game imho.

 

[Ｚｅｎ✦ｓｈｅｍｕ]

will wait for WL to talk before I vote, I want to know why he chose FML

Xatres flip.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Zen, if we lynch you first and I promise a WL lynch tomorrow ,is that koopa

 

[FullMetalLynch]

i mean if your really town you should have no issue as your getting what you want

 

[#HBC | Mac]

Xatres flip.

what I figured but was hoping to hear what he had t osay

 

[Lore]

Joey should be in like everybody's lynch pool at this point of the game imho.

... Why? Laundry did courier (which I don't think he is) stuff saying that Joey is Not Guilty. Unless there are in actuality five scum, I don't see any reasonable possibility of him lying.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

i mean if your really town you should have no issue as your getting what you want

this makes 0 sense

 

[#HBC | Mac]

zen if we lynch wl and he's town, then what ?

then joey, me, zen lynch pool. With 2 more lynches to go.

Zen cops me or joey tonight, (probably me). If he claims I come back mafia, lynch me tomorrow then lynch him in lylo.

but he almost can't do that that cuz that'll kill zenshemscum and cuz i'm town. So zenshemscum will almost definitely claim me town. and push for joey / me GF.

werekill could track zen to make sure he didn't make up this 1 shot cop thing (he didn't) but werekill is almost definitely dyin tmrw so it doesn't matter.

we'd just end up in scenario where the scum pool is 3 players and we have 2 lynches.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

how do you know he's not making this up exactly ?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

if we lynch joey first and he flips town, get rid of the possibility of 2 scum factions. WL targets me or Zen, Zen targets me or WL. Zenshemscum can't claim anyone is mafia becuz he'll get lynched in lylo so unless he did get a mafia result he'll claim town.

WL doesn't have to claim anything / he might claim that scum got his message and didn't out it. Or scum could get the msg and claim a fake result. If a fake mafia result is claimed, and Zen / I get lynched. Next day, the lynch would be between WL and the claimer. the only way for such a thing to work actually, is if Zen / I was the claimer becuz everyone else is clear. So scumWL messenger will have to send a fake mafia result to either Zen / I. Or he'd send a town result to anyone else and push for the ZenshemuGF or MacGF angle.

If townWL, the only winning outcome is if a clear got a WL-investigation result of mafia on Zen or I. Then the lynch goes claimed mafia > WL if that person flips scum.

If a clear gets a WL-investigation result of town, than we have to assume GF is in play. And all 3 of us, Zen , WL, and I are in play.


Then if i get lynched today, the same logic applies except WL HAS to target Zen. which doesn't really change much. In this scenario, WL or Joey will almost definitely have to get lynched tmrw just to be safe against a 2nd faction.




eh so basically, I think the only outcome assuming best logical play, regardless of who stays alive today, is Zenshemu's / WL's results from tmrw won't matter at all. At this point, we have 4 ppl in a lynchpool and 3 MLs. Pick someone you think is town, and then push all 3 other lynches.

My only stipulation is that one of Joey / WL die before Zenshumu and I are both dead. Since WL / Joey seem like the only feasible pairing for another faction

 

[#HBC | Mac]

how do you know he's not making this up exactly ?

i dont, i just think that slot is town.

and in case i didn't make it clear from my last post, I'm down to lynch anyone in the generally accepted lynch pool.
WL >>> Joey >>>>>>>>> Zenshemu

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

no, we lynch zen first

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

idc what you think about **** like "zen wouldnt do this or blah blah w/e as scumn" thats crap, his claim is utter nonsense and letting it live another day would be the dumbest decision i Dgames history

 

[Inglorious Retards]

... Why? Laundry did courier (which I don't think he is) stuff saying that Joey is Not Guilty. Unless there are in actuality five scum, I don't see any reasonable possibility of him lying.

Godfather

 

[#HBC | Mac]

im thinking scum flubbed really hard by not killing werekill yesterday. Gheb as a possible lynch candidate would have made this a lot harder

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

And if you believe his ridiculous nonsense then this'll be the last game i ever play. And if swords made a role like what Zen's describing that'll prolly do it too because the role literally sounds like nonsense

 

[#HBC | Mac]

unless ofc scum is a ninja....

 

[Inglorious Retards]

And if you believe his ridiculous nonsense then this'll be the last game i ever play. And if swords made a role like what Zen's describing that'll prolly do it too because the role literally sounds like nonsense

I don't really see an issue with it. It'd be unconventional but by no means bad.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

And if you believe his ridiculous nonsense then this'll be the last game i ever play. And if swords made a role like what Zen's describing that'll prolly do it too because the role literally sounds like nonsense

his role is pretty stupid / weird, but didn't you guys also think it was crazy for FML and Xatres to have the same role title? We saw how well that worked out

Zenshemu's role isn't beyond the realm of belief.

also I'm thinking more and more that we should probably leave WL alive just to probe for ZenshemIndy

 

[Lore]

his role is pretty stupid / weird, but didn't you guys also think it was crazy for FML and Xatres to have the same role title? We saw how well that worked out

Zenshemu's role isn't beyond the realm of belief.

also I'm thinking more and more that we should probably leave WL alive just to probe for ZenshemIndy

They DIDN'T have the same role title. Look at Xatres's flip. He said the wrong thing.

 

[Ｚｅｎ✦ｓｈｅｍｕ]

Rake I think you need to work on your fundamentals of mafia. I really hope that you quitting was an exaggeration. I think the role is really cool.

@ Lore @ Shun Goku Satsu Rake Have you seen monster? You should look up Nina Fortner on the Wiki. You should also check out Jan Suk. Laundry's role does not go with the flavor at all.

Nina is an Amnesiac who is trying to regain her memories through out the entire show. I don't think we were role blocked N2. I think it's just a part of the role. We "remember" small bits of info that progressively because useful. The first two nights were useless information. The third we gain real insight. And the fourth we actually gain something of true value.

Unless Laundry gives some goods, we should lynch him. If he does not flip scum, then we will invest mac. Were should track mac imo, but he can do as he wishes. Us both being on him would make it so that if scum kills one of us, then the other will still have a result. If Mac comes up inno from that, then scum is between him and Joey as GF. I hope it will not go that far though.

 

[Ｚｅｎ✦ｓｈｅｍｕ]

become *

 

[Lore]

I'm definitely feeling that the last scum is between you and WL, more so you but...

How does the amnesiac cop usually give out results? Is it a note? Or just the info going out? I'm thinking back on the wording of the note delivery, and I'm curious if it would actually matter. One sec, checking the pm.

 

[Lore]

I apparently woke to find a letter on my bed. Not a note, specifically a letter. FML, how was your note described as when you received it?

The thought came to me in the shower, and I'm very curious.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Orbo is not feeling a laundry lynch.
Orbo would mich prefer zen to be lynched and is completely willing to reeval and head onto mac and laundry afterwords.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I apparently woke to find a letter on my bed. Not a note, specifically a letter. FML, how was your note described as when you received it?

The thought came to me in the shower, and I'm very curious.

Same way I believe.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Also rakes been talking everything through with ne so don't just shovel it on him. All our reads and directions have been discussed and cosigned. He's jist around more during the day

 

[Lore]

On another note, wouldn't I be the most logical target for a courier letter if I'm not the target of the night kill? It would make me feel even more so that Laundry was doing the role, putting me slightly under his influence. If a pr believes you're innocent, why kill him when you can get rid of a strong town player?

Apologies, Zen. I still feel that your play has been very odd and want to see your flip, but I'm starting to feel differently about Laundry.