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Mini Mafia

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  • Total voters
    17

Fynal

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well then

really no reason to wait with the day actions.

how does this go exactly? RR uses his follow on J, and afterwards J targets his choice of me or kantrip?

should confirm if J actually used an ability too.
 

Ramen King

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D2 Begins!

Vote Count

J (1): Jdietz
Jdietz (0):
Kantrip (0):
Red Ruy (0):
Soup (3): Red Ruy, Fynal, J
Fynal (0):

Not Voting (2): Kantrip, Soup

It takes 4 votes to lynch!
 

Jdietz43

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Yep pretty much. RR get to it so we start this.

@MOD: That votecount is off. You've got me both voting and not voting
 

Fynal

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@MOD: That votecount is off. The Pokemon at the top is the incorrect color.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Let's continue just playing with my role and making it a struggle to see who hammers me to confirm my role that i've already said a million times is real and you have no reason not to believe me.
 

Fynal

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i think the above post may actually have made negative sense. nicely done soup.

RR, use your follow on J when you get here, and tell us when you do
 

Fynal

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should he? i was thinkign RR first, so on the chance that it doesnt work retroactively, RR atleast can see if J actually used a PR
 

Fynal

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him using that PR not a confirmation, but it eliminates a few cases of J-has-no-PR-and-fakes-result
 

Kantrip

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Oh you mean RR's role continues to be ambiguous in function?

No, that wouldn't make sense. Red Ruy sees actions that occurred PRIOR to his using his ability. Otherwise, it wouldn't work. So if we get J to go first then when Red Ruy checks J he will confirm the ability as you are suggesting.
 

Fynal

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i'll take your word on it. I was under the impression that RR still wasn't sure about his role lol

J first it is. J, if you please, pick one of me/kanty and vouyer them.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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The only thing you could do is lynch J but he's voting me and as town/scum it's unlikely that he would unvote
 

Kantrip

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Here's the thing about forced hammering on you, Soup.

If someone is already our confirmed lynch target, then it's either they hammer you or we hammer them.

That means there is no reason for someone who is town to refuse hammering you, since that would confirm your role, something that benefits town. Since they're going to get lynched either way, any townie should want to keep town's interests in mind and be fine with hammering you. The refusal of a lynch target to hammer you when they aren't getting out of the lynch is hella scummy.

J is our lynch target right now, though.
 

Fynal

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here's the thing about forced hammering on you, soup.

If someone is already our confirmed lynch target, then it's either they hammer you or we hammer them.

That means there is no reason for someone who is town to refuse hammering you, since that would confirm your role, something that benefits town. Since they're going to get lynched either way, any townie should want to keep town's interests in mind and be fine with hammering you. The refusal of a lynch target to hammer you when they aren't getting out of the lynch is hella scummy.
qf t
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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Oh you mean RR's role continues to be ambiguous in function?

No, that wouldn't make sense. Red Ruy sees actions that occurred PRIOR to his using his ability. Otherwise, it wouldn't work. So if we get J to go first then when Red Ruy checks J he will confirm the ability as you are suggesting.
No it's after I use it. So if the person I targeted used something before it then I don't see it.
 

Fynal

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No it's after I use it. So if the person I targeted used something before it then I don't see it.
mmmmm yes that's what i thought. it doesnt work retroactively, and i seriously doubt J's role, if legit, does either.

i think, in this case, we should just get on with the lynch. the very best we can do atm is have J use an ability after ryu follows him, which would only prove he has a PR.
 

#HBC | J

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I still don't get why I'm being lynched by the Fynal+RR+Ditzy trio. Ditzy is because I called him scum. Fynal because of Xonar before I replaced in. RR is just because.

If I do get lynched and turn into a negatownie, this game is probably just gonna be flipped on its head.
 

Fynal

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Fynal because of Xonar before I replaced in
incorrect

i like how he doesn't even mention kantrip, whose onboard with this.

J, if you won't unvote and hammer soup, then we'll lynch you now.
 

Jdietz43

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Was told I learn actions after I use mine...confusing wording....
Try it on Soup then, to me that sounds like Zen saying "After you use your action you learn what they did." but it could go either way.

I'm confident in this ****, I'm just hammering J if he won't go for Soup. (oh wait... my vote never left him lol)

Whoever comes in next has my blessing to hammer then.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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This is legitimately ******** and does not progress any scumhunting by forcing a player to do something, in mafia you are supposed to read off how people react to things, and likely either as a negatownie or not, J's reaction has already been decided. Being lynched is fundamentally bad and if you're actually reading J as scum for refusing to hammer then you're just beyond me.
 

Ramen King

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D2 Begins!

Vote Count

J (3): Jdietz, Red Ruy, Fynal
Jdietz (0):
Kantrip (0):
Red Ruy (0):
Soup (1): J
Fynal (0):

Not Voting (2): Kantrip, Soup

It takes 4 votes to lynch!
 

Fynal

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kanty... do you wana just hammer J... he's blatantly refusing to hammer soup despite that being the better choice if he's somehow town... and i really don't want to try to argue with soup...
 

#HBC | J

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I kind of wanna self-hammer in hopes of becoming a negatownie....

Nah that's against my win-con haha. xD
 

#HBC | J

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Join us as town? I already am a part of this town but no one at all has given me a fair chance this game because of what Xonar said at the beginning of the game, which you guys did end up doing anyways making the entire point of his argument being scummy completely void. Then Fynal tries to stretch the fact that my Voyeur claim is fake/lying which is complete nonsense because why would I lie and especially lie to claim a random role like Voyeur for that matter.

So yeah. I am also not hammering Soup because I am town and there are much better candidates for that type of lynch like RR/Yourself. Hammering Soup is equal to self-hammering which does not make sense at all.

Unvote
Vote: Red Ryu
 

Jdietz43

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It's not equal to self hammering, it would prove Soup's role: the second questionmark in this equation right now.

Shup up: Die. Come back and help us when you're town. Simple.
 

#HBC | J

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:rolleyes:

I'll go "shup up" now. I see no reason to truly test Soup's ability unless it means I can get one of my own scum-reads lynched because I see no reason to not believe Soup's ability and no one has pointed.
 

Jdietz43

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Or if you have a conversion power, would would be pretty suck, but it would explain why he seems not to want any of this.
 

Jdietz43

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(point I'm trying to make is: Soup stop being anti-town)

Ok, run off then instead of substantiating your position on RR then. (is major hypocrite, but is enjoying being super lazy this game)
 
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