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Mini Mafia Game Thread | Newbies are welcome! | Town wins Gheb's game | Zen next to host!

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#HBC | Gorf

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I don't trust your reads to be more accurate or more correct than mine nor do u find you to be town so shove that logic down a chasm and stop bringing it up because i give no ****s about it.

Holy shiz that's not his god damn point. The point is that the governor needs to be the focal point of this game all the way until the lyncher is dead. Does it just not click that this isn't a standard game of mafia? Does it just not click that this is why standard games of mafia SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT GOVERNOR'S ARE NOT INCLUDED? Because mine and Zen's agenda is the best way to play with a governor. IT'S A BROKEN GOD DAMN ROLE FOR A REASON.
 

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you scumread rake after he got on you.i believe his zen stuff emerged outside of zens push on him because zen actually switched off of him onto me and only switched back when rake started going after him
Too lazy to go back and confirm this.

Zord hard defends you for town points and to.put you into his pocket plus your reads agree with his. Boom done

Not buying it. After claiming Doc there's 2 possibilities: I'm either Town Doc or Indy Doc. Both of which happen to be Mafia's #1 threat in this game. Buddying up as opposed to lynching the 1 person capable of cockblocking your Night Kills would be an incredibly stupid move IMO. Plus there was no guarantee I was going to town read him after he started defending me.
 

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Im leaving for now because im getting pissed off and i shouldn't be. I'll still be checking thread but im not gonna answer for the time being
 

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Orbo you're playing a general closed set up mafia game. In this game it anti town to go with the majority. It is the best absolute play to follow the governor. I've played the basic lyncher set up so many times on epic mafia. The odds of town winning by playing the way town is playing are extremely low.
 

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@ninja-he was doing this wellllllll before you claimed doc. He can't just drop his read On you after that because it makes him look bad
 

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gorf you take over solo for the rest.
Geb can still be mafia. And in the event that rake isn't lyncher, I think dietz > trg. Actually dietz lyncher; gheb mafia makes sense but let's see how this pans out.
 

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[ quote="The Real Gamer, post: 16115531,

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member: 114204"]Once again being

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called out by Orbo for doing the same exact **** that Rake has been pulling all game.

I am shocked.[/quote] Rake hasn't done any of this. He's answered all asked of him right when he got into thread and it hasn't taken any harassing tk get him to answer things.
Because they haven't been shutting down your lynch all ****ing game on the basis.of "im the role every person should enslave their vote to"
 

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Once again being called out by Orbo for doing the same exact **** that Rake has been pulling all game.

I am shocked.
Rake hasn't done any of this. He's answered all asked of him right when he got into thread and it hasn't taken any harassing tk get him to answer things.
Because they haven't been shutting down your lynch all ****ing game on the basis.of "im the role every person should enslave their vote to"
 

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i thought about because i was indecisive between town zen doing this for reactions, town gov zen doing this out of being stubborn and tunnely, or mafia zen and i pretty much figure that of the three, mafia zen is most likely. Especially because he's pushing me as the lyncher when i literally suggested using a plan that would prevent me from wining as said lyncher.
 

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Orbo reads me most accurately and yet I'm balling the hell out of him as a lyncher, so he decided to just let me have free reign as mafia why ? He'd literally be handing me a win if i was the lyncher
 

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Hahaha are you serious, am I reading this catchup discussion right? TRG claimed self-protecting doctor and Gorf and Zen claim to believe it


Protip: That only happened in Vinyl's game because Gorf is cheeky and Vinyl has never modded a game before: that's not a legit claim out of him. I have never seen a self protecting doc, and certainly never a town one.

That's Indydoc all over the place.

Vote: TRG
 

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So far? Leaning MafiaGov, but that's probably simply personal dislike for the cockblock attitude (I haven't even seen a substantial Gheb post yet, all I did was skim backwards for the doc claim)

If he is I don't know what we can really do about it besides lynch him first if he's determined to stop all lynches that aren't up to his divine standards. When town doesn't lynch, mafia wins. Still reading.
 

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Not mad townie but enough to give me pause.why does trgscum choose to go mano y mano with you in lieu of just working around the pressure? He is smart enough to realize that it'd be easier to just ply my off of hin and with zen already off of him you guys wouldnt have the votes to.lynch him. Plus i dont see it as his style to belittle you as being terrible as a player as opposed to just wrong
I went mano a mano against Swiss in my first newb scum game... and Zen white knighted me until I died. Just saying it's not hard.

#potentialhumorousparallels


(not an opinion yet, looks like theyr'e about to go into it)
 

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Zen has been totally right about the whole situation. We're CONFIRMED NOT INDY. Town, that means WE ARE HERE TO HELP YOU EVEN IF YOU DON'T THINK WE'RE TOWN. EVERYBODY WANTS TO LYNCH THE LYNCHER. If me and Zen think that's Rake, THAT'S WHO WE'RE LYNCHING UNLESS YOU WANT A NL. SIMPLE AS THAT. Can you convince us? Well you can try but that will hurt nobody but town, cuz we'll block every single lynch we don't think is the lyncher? Cool? Cool.

Oh a second opinion from someone in the same slot as the first person to give that opinion, I'm sure that holds weight.

Theory: if Mafia Gov blocks every lynch attempted under the pretense that it's "not who they want" they get free shots.

Second theory: If Mafia Gov blocks all wagons on those that town deems scummy (and if town is to be crowdsource trusted: have best potential to be lyncher) a stubborn Gov can drag out the hunt for the lyncher until nearly the end of the game.

Confirm/Deny?


(This post brought to you by Dietz's innate desire to see a Gorf/Zen slot suffer)
 

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"Agreeing" is relative. It's certainly not the way I would go about reading a player or push a lynch against him. I think I can see where he's coming from though and why he'd conclude that you are probably scum. It's a bit vague ... not to call it diffuse ... because the way he presented his point is difficult to put into words. But if I follow it bit by bit I think I understand what he means.




I think the clumsy wording of the whole explanation makes it seem weaker and harder to understand than it actually is. In my opinion, Dietz genuinely believes that you answered the question in a manner that a scumbag would have. He probably think that the way you worded your answer shows that you've had to keep a lot of details in mind that a townie straight-up wouldn't have to worry about.
At the same time, it could be a massive stretch and maybe I'm reading his posts completely wrong. Pretty sure I'm not though. And I'm not even sure if I can agree with his case and how he concludes you are scum from it but I'm 100% sure he's genuine. Whether that makes him necessarily town is a different question though - in my opinion, it doesn't.




It lines up with my reads though because I think Orbo's approach to the whole issue is the most rational ... or even "functional", Dietz is somewhere in the middle and Rake is just opportunistic imo.

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Your summary of my thoughts sounds like you understand my post correctly despite it not being very elegant.

I have a hard time believing it would be so difficult for a town player to freely comment on theoretical scum action they might take if they aren't scum (why worry about your comments on personal scum goals if you aren't trying to avoid being incriminated by them), and odd to have such a detailed strategy lined up with players even named as key strategy components. We pushed him until he answered so I'm not surprised we got one, but the one he gave seemed like an answer above and beyond what would be normal for someone who only had ~10 minutes to think about it.
 

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Votecount:

[3] Anomandaris_Rake | Voted by: TRG, Gheb, Zorf
[2] The Real Gamer | Voted by: Rake, Jdietz
[1] Zorf | Voted by: Orbo

[0] Gheb_01
[0] Jdietz43
[0] Orboknown
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With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

Deadline: The last minute of Thursday, December 26th
 
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