Mini Mafia: Bowser Jr. Mafia [Ovah swam]

[~ Gheb ~]

Orbo, you should try harder. There's enough time left toDay for you to not skim so badly. You're NOT adding anything to the soup "case".

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I think zen planned ahead. The timing of the screenshots could allude to that. I don't think he wanted screenshots going on anymore because people were breaking the rule of having the time dates on them. Don't you remember when he stepped in because of that?

 

[Orboknown]

180 gives me pause about swords tbh. Why post a vid with the price is right "losing" horn, when we hadn't had the flip yet? This combined with the fact kantrip flipped town makes me doubt my read a bit, but it's prolly nothing.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

I think zen planned ahead. The timing of the screenshots could allude to that. I don't think he wanted screenshots going on anymore because people were breaking the rule of having the time dates on them. Don't you remember when he stepped in because of that?

Then why did he add rule #4 that disallows us from posting screencaps now? It's pretty much entirely superfluous ... unless scum lacks fake PMs.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Serious question: is there any reason why nobody has yet considered the possibility that No Hetero could be scum?

I have, this is also why I'm not on the Orbo wagon.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Then why did he add rule #4 that disallows us from posting screencaps now? It's pretty much entirely superfluous ... unless scum lacks fake PMs.

Because people wouldn't stop posting things that gave a time frame of when they got it

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Guys, maybe I'm just starting to get crazy over this game but I really think there isn't actually a mafia faction or anything in this game. The more I think about it the more it makes sense to think that all of us are town and that Zen added rule #4 in order to not get the game broken asap by posting screen caps.

Look at your role PM. Does it even have a wincon? My wincon just tells me that I have the tracking ability but not that there is a scum faction to beat. We also had no NK.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Because people wouldn't stop posting things that gave a time frame of when they got it

He could sanctionize it the good old way with modvotes or modkills.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

My wincon just tells me that I have the tracking ability[...]

*EBWOP: My role PM just tells me ...

 

[~ Gheb ~]

3. The Town faction wins once all other factions have been eliminated. Anti-Town faction(s) win once Town can no longer eliminate them.

Nevermind ...

 

[Orboknown]

gheb did you get anything out of your NA plan, considering no kill occured?

 

[Orboknown]

gheb, you think maybe it's just an indy present, considering the sample pm and the fact that it is labled as "antitown", with no guarentee of a mafia faction?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah, I was about to say. There's also this I wanted to point out.

Position: Shooter; you may use the command "Switch" during any night phase. If both you and your Kart Partner use this command on the same night, you will switch positions at the start of the next day. You will be told if your partner used this command at the start of each day regardless. One time while you are in the driver position, you will be bulletproof. You may only use your active abilities (anything besides your voice, vote, your ability to night kill, and ability to switch) when you are in the shooter position. Losing your partner will result in you being able to switch back and forth through the use of the "Switch" command. You may elect to use the command "Don't Switch".

There's probably this thing too in the game. That's why there was no kill. It makes sense to me.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

gheb did you get anything out of your NA plan, considering no kill occured?

No and I don't think it would've worked in the first place.

gheb, you think maybe it's just an indy present, considering the sample pm and the fact that it is labled as "antitown", with no guarentee of a mafia faction?

Definitely a possibility to consider, especially if we keep going on without NK.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

He could sanctionize it the good old way with modvotes or modkills.

If I was the mod I would have modkilled the first offender of it but w/e.

 

[Orboknown]

Nah I wanna hear from Orbo on what he did.

Still we should lynch Soup, he is so gogdamn obvious scum.

ruy here did this come form, after you FOS'd gheb after D1? quote something please.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I don't follow.

 

[Orboknown]

hwy is soup obv scum, when at the end of D1 you were FoSing gheb, indicating you wanted him gone? I haven't heard anything along the lines of gheb scum form you today.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

He even voted me toDay. I think I just told you to not skim, please stop it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I FoSed Gheb because I don't like how he defended Soup.

Right now I don't like his hop on nor his constant defending of Soup you may or may not be his potential partner. His Quick lynch of Kantrip was not ideal nor good.

I'm not super focused because I want Soup asap.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Why do you keep calling it a mislynch?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

*EBWOP: quicklynch

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You voted with no warning or caring about letting the day progress.

You showed no interest in trying to use the day, just getting a lynch.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

Does anyone think RR could plausibly be faking his read on me right now? Would RR really tunnel something so hard? I want opinions on all this.

Yes, he really would tunnel you until you died. That is a thing RR would do as town.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You voted with no warning or caring about letting the day progress.

You showed no interest in trying to use the day, just getting a lynch.

Day phases last 4 IRL days, dude. By that logic every lynch in this game is a quicklynch.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Paranoia is legit in this case because the 1% chance of it being a red herring or some other sort of nonsense by the mod is still there. It's the reason why I didn't really go out of my way to make the point because somebody will likely make a counter-argument with that 1% "but what if..." scenario as its basis. I mean, of course you can pick the 100% safety route and assume that soup and I could still be scum somehow but I will pick the 99% safety route that gives me a cleared player to work with, which is a lot more productive.



If soup weren't cleared I'd still say it's a null-tell.



A very good point. I completely forgot that Orbo posted his screenshot but now that you mention it, I remember he did.

Unvote



I don't think he purposefully *gave* us the ability to post screenshots but simply forgot about it. The more I think about it the less sense it makes to look at the whole ruleset as if there were any red herrings. When I look at rule #3 and #4 I can imagine that they *could* be red herrings but I fail to see in what ways they would be of any consequence. Neither of these rules really take away anything we know about the role PMs that have been screen capped.

Actually Gheb lets ignore what Zen was possibly trying to do is just look at the facts. Originally Zen was okay with us posting screen shots. Thus, can we not conclude just from that that Zen sent scum fake role PMs at the same time that Zen sent scum their real PMs? What's wrong with that logic?

Also I was more so wondering about your opinion on other people jumping on Soup if you took away the clear you're giving him.

About Orb. It's true that Orb posted his role PM, but he also posted it after you posted this.

No time data from the moderator was visible but w/e.

Pretty sure scum is getting their PMs sent now. Which means that only soup and I are cleared.

Knowing this, will you still give Orb the clear?

Going to dinner. Will be back with more soon.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Hmmmm, actually, why not just try this?

@MOD: Can you tell us if scum received fake role PMs? If so, can you tell us if they received them at the same time that they received their normal role PMs?

 

[No Hetero]

OK, this is getting dumb. We seriously have soup questiong obtown Ruy over some DUMB stuff and Ruy isn't voting Orbo partly out of paranoia.

I'll get more involved once I'm done work, but Gheb/Ruy need to consider my opinions because Town has to play tight in minis.

Orbo -> soup is the best course of action at the moment.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Agree with killing Orb off toDay.

Vote: Orb

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You got my vote only to avoid a No Lynch and I'll do it if Soup isn't lynched before I go to bed tonight.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

180 gives me pause about swords tbh. Why post a vid with the price is right "losing" horn, when we hadn't had the flip yet? This combined with the fact kantrip flipped town makes me doubt my read a bit, but it's prolly nothing.

Because it was a quick lynch. When Zen posted saying that Kantrip was lynched I didn't even know that Gheb hammered him.

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

got distracted by doctor who. sorry bout that.
through page four, the reads i got on first impressions are holding up well.
posts like 132 and 160 are part of why I'm scumreading soup. When he's called scum, he belittles the player attacking him.His reactions to RR's obv gambit against swords(why would he intervene as town when he's *****ed to me about this beforehand in other games).
152 gives me a town vibe form NH. the swords read was more from d2/n1, as was PJB.

What exactly was your "first impressions" based off of?

Also you still have to answer to my 330. How did you get reads at all if you have to read now?

 

[#HBC | Dancer]

Yeah, I was about to say. There's also this I wanted to point out.



There's probably this thing too in the game. That's why there was no kill. It makes sense to me.

Can you walk me through why this possibly explains why there was no kill? Because the driver gets a BP? Who would have shot at the driver though?

 

[Xivii]

Hmmmm, actually, why not just try this?

@MOD: Can you tell us if scum received fake role PMs? If so, can you tell us if they received them at the same time that they received their normal role PMs?

No, I cannot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Focusing on homework for the rest of tonight so,

Vote: Orbo

 

[Xivii]

Vote Count
4/7 to lynch

Gheb
soup
Red Ruy
No Hetero
Orboknown
sworddancer.
privatejoker brown

[collapse=Detailed]#Red Ruy votes soup
#No Hetero votes Orboknown
#soup votes Orboknown
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#Gheb votes Orboknown
#PJB votes Gheb
#Red Ruy votes Gheb
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#Orboknown votes soup
#soup unvotes
#soup votes Orboknown
#Red Ruy votes soup
#Gheb unvotes
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#sworddancer. votes Orboknown
#Red Ruy votes Orboknown[/collapse]

A lynch has been reached!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Mod: I hammered Orbo

 

[Xivii]

Orboknown, Bowser Jr., Town Painter, has been lynched! Night 2 begins!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Just woke up.

Still want Soup.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Vote Red Ryu