Mindgames?

[soju]

Where did all the hype for mindgames go? Back in the day it was so good, I remember having a chat with one of my smash buds how no one really care about mindgames anymore and how everyone just try to look as cool as possible. I know there are still people who exploit them but I haven't seen anyone really care much about them though. Has the current metagame pretty much made it obsolete or do people really only care about cool combos now?

 

[Rockenos]

I disagree, I held a Rock Paper Scissors tournament recently, **** was mad hype

 

[Twinkles]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk09c6iLLdU

I dunno man

They look pretty hype to me

 

[soju]

Well thats mango <3 but I guess this does prove my point wrong XD

Its still sad though that there is no one who has them remotely close to mangos

 

[crush]

I have mindgames.

 

[Pogogo]

Mindgames is a really silly term and I find it really hard to get hype about it. Like if someone does something predictable and you exploit it, good for you. And if you change it up to be less predictable, thats just a good idea. I don't get the "OHHHHHHH" factor. I mean how can you tell between a mindgame and a good reaction?

 

[Bones0]

Mindgames is a really silly term and I find it really hard to get hype about it. Like if someone does something predictable and you exploit it, good for you. And if you change it up to be less predictable, thats just a good idea. I don't get the "OHHHHHHH" factor. I mean how can you tell between a mindgame and a good reaction?

If you can't tell the difference, you probably just got mindgamed.

 

[AXE 09]

Next to techskill, mindgames are my favorite part of Melee!! I freakin love it when someone psyches someone else out. Hype!!! Makes me jump outta my seat lolol

 

[Dr Peepee]

I really like mindgames. I never was entirely sure what the term encompassed(conditioning+movement/move choice changes or lack thereof? eh) but I play to outsmart/outread my opponent.

 

[Strong Badam]

I'd be impressed if someone made it through round 2 pools of a major tourney without understanding "mindgames" (or at least, what the ridiculous term encompasses). If you think Mindgames is just doing silly stuff and it working, then lol.

 

[hectohertz]

see. mindgames = hype. thread over

 

[Strong Badam]

mbr seal of approval

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Remember in Pound V GF when Armada and PP both shielded at the same time for about 2 seconds?

Mind****. Hype.

 

[-ShadowPhoenix-]

Mindgames still exist even in high level play. I just feel that the community in general has stopped using the term itself due to varying opinions of what "mindgames" actually means

 

[Bones0]

Remember in Pound V GF when Armada and PP both shielded at the same time for about 2 seconds?

Mind****. Hype.

Anyone who wasn't there can't even understand the hype though. lol It felt like the ENTIRE room held their breath as soon as they shielded, then just a few frames later it became awkward that they were both still shielding so everyone just SCREAMED. OMG I get chills just remembering this moment.

 

[finalcloud13]

I like it when people dashdance and the other player rolls or spotdodges.

 

[Roneblaster]

My favorite part of melee is mindgames.

I get exponentially more hype for little mindgames than i do a spacie who quadshines on shield. Techskill is impressive, mindgames rapeeeeeeeeee.

 

[Myztek]

Mind games are essential in basically every game that involves human vs human play.

They are a key part of the decision making process, and one of the main reasons some people never advance beyond an intermediate level. The more dynamic your mind games, the better. Many players fail at being creative and effective with them, and stick to a hard-coded, mostly static set of tricks.

Anyway, mind games exist and they're super amazing. Especially when they're unique.

 

[40secondz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQSMTKhdsDY#t=11m25s

 

[Veetaak]

Fake casting in WoW is so simple and good. Use that pummel for nothing bro

inb4 Wow is gay etc

 

[Acryte]

Mind games are like subtle uses of spacing, or conditioning an opponent in a certain way so that when you use a move, they never would have expected and it fits perfectly. Mindgames are just as present these days. However, most players, as they get to a higher level are already aware of many characters gimmicks and tricks so it becomes more difficult to effectively do so. Most likely the opponent is already aware of the trick etc, but your superior conditioning/reading allows you to pull it off. This is what makes mindgames even more hype, because its not just using a trick they didnt know about, its about tricking them mentally so both reading and conditioning come together at once.

Also mindgames can work inside and outside of the game too. For example, if you train your opponent by always over exaggerating when you tech rolls, jump, etc by moving your controller and arms more visibly, on occasion you can move your arms and fingers to act like you are going to roll, jump, etc and you can trick them into responding to your body movement... when in actuality you haven't committed to anything yet. Sometimes it can save a stock but like mango says, don't overuse your tricks keep them for the unexpected times.

 

[Varist]

I laugh so ****ing hard when I'm playing my brother's Fox and he dash dances a few paces away from me as if he were having an epileptic fit, trying to get me to jump or shield, and I just stand there and look at him. For seconds.



Wow is gay etc.

 

[Kason Birdman]

wow once you gain mental ground in a match, at the same time as having the speed and stage control in your favour, you are dominating dat ****.

mind games go hand in hand with techskill, you can't win with only one, you can't win with only the other.

but yes I also had recently noticed a decrease in the use of the term 'mindgames'. know how when wayne gretzky retired from hockey they retired the 99 jersey? maybe when Isai 'retired' they just retired the term mindgames too.

 

[Masmasher@]

I'd be impressed if someone made it through round 2 pools of a major tourney without understanding "mindgames" (or at least, what the ridiculous term encompasses). If you think Mindgames is just doing silly stuff and it working, then lol.

i mean isnt that what it is though ?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

'mindgames' melts into baiting tactics.

 

[Krynxe]

Pro mindgames:
Be Jiggs and don't bair
Be Fox/Falco and don't laser

Freaks people out every time man

 

[Zodiac]

If you cant see the mind games the better players use it means you're just not good enough to see it yet.

 

[The Star King]

I feel "mindgames" is getting less talked about simply because it's a very broad (and often misused) term, and more specific words are usually better to describe situations. These more specific words include things such as reading, baiting, conditioning, etc.

If you think mindgames have a decreasing role in competitive play, I'm pretty sure you're dead wrong.

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

Pro mindgames:
Be Jiggs and don't bair
Be Fox/Falco and don't laser

Freaks people out every time man

you forgot ics without grabs

 

[Krynxe]

you forgot ics without grabs

Or Metaknight without being broken.

 

[Qortex]

I mindgame by standing still randomly. Somehow works