Miiverse Daily Smash 4 Photos (Closed for its successor)

[BluePikmin11]

Spoiler

About today's pic: I wonder how much butthurt will people become if the Yellow Devil is revealed to be a stage hazard...

It's going to frustrate casual players for sure.

 

[ToddCam]

For the last time you guys i stuck at that subject in school.

Is that supposed to excuse it? If you want to communicate with others in a purely text-based medium, you should expect to have to follow the basic rules of grammar. It's your only way of conveying meaning, as no one has telepathic powers to know your intent, and we can't hear your voice to detect tone or stress, and we can't see your body language for non-verbal cues.

 

[8-peacock-8]

 

[RadRedi]

I think it could really go either way - whether it's a stage hazard or a boss - and we don't have enough proof to lean toward either side without guessing first.

I'm inclined to aim my blind guess toward a boss. Stage hazards generally allow for a good amount of room to fight, even after being instigated, whereas this one seems to take up a good majority of the stage. However, there's a first for everything; I won't act like Yellow Devil being a stage hazard is stupid, because anything could go, at this point.

Irrational speculation aside, it's still pleasant to wake up in the morning and at least have some new/interesting info after realizing that there is no confirmed character. I do feel like a character is a little overdue, but seeing that the floodgates haven't closed yet, it can certainly wait, if need be.

 

[8-peacock-8]

You know it can be both. A boss in single player (Event matches and Adventure mode) and a hazard in multiplayer.

Just like how Ridley can be a hazard/boss and a playable.

 

[ToddCam]

I hope it's not a hazard. It looks like it takes up a lot of room. I like hazards, but I also like the possibility of avoiding them.

 

[Networker1]

It seems too big to be a stage hazard, hardly any room left to fight.
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(pun not intended)

 

[N3ON]

No real point speculating what it is, we don't really have enough new information from this pic anyway.

Finally, a new character! PACMAN CONFIRMED!

I love it.

 

[NitrusVirus]

I dont understand people who think its a hazard. Literally nothing points to it being a hazard. If its the two-player aspect, what, did co-op suddenly vanish from the face of the earth?

 

[NintendoKnight]

In the picture, it looks like Mega Man and Sonic aren't fighting each other, but the Yellow Devil. If it were a stage hazard, why would they be attempting to attack back?

Unless, oh no...

Remember, in Melee, in the Mushroom Kingdom 2 level, Birdo was a hurtable stage hazard. She could be harmed, but was still a stage hazard.

Much like the Piranha Plants from SSB64:

That would be disappointing to say the least.

 

[N3ON]

In the picture, it looks like Mega Man and Sonic aren't fighting each other, but the Yellow Devil. If it were a stage hazard, why would they be attempting to attack back?

The characters aren't fighting each other in a lot of Miiverse pics, especially ones where the focus isn't the characters themselves.

 

[NintendoKnight]

The characters aren't fighting each other in a lot of Miiverse pics, especially ones where the focus isn't the characters themselves.

Ah, that's true.

I do hope they bring the Boss Battles mode back, this time with bosses only from actual Nintendo games. No more Galleom, Duon, or Tabuu please.

Speaking of boss battles...

Where's mah Master Hand at?!

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

In the picture, it looks like Mega Man and Sonic aren't fighting each other, but the Yellow Devil. If it were a stage hazard, why would they be attempting to attack back?

Unless, oh no...
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Remember, in Melee, in the Mushroom Kingdom 2 level, Birdo was a hurtable stage hazard. She could be harmed, but was still a stage hazard.

Much like the Piranha Plants from SSB64:

That would be disappointing to say the least.

Don't forget the Shyguys on Mario Circuit. The cars on Mute City might count as well, since you can make them explode and burn out.

That last pic makes me wish for them to bring back SSB64 stages. Make Meta Crystal, Duel Zone, and the original Final Destination playable on multiplayer. Please.

Where's mah Master Hand at?!

Doing....things with WFT.

 

[Frostwraith]

I dont understand people who think its a hazard. Literally nothing points to it being a hazard. If its the two-player aspect, what, did co-op suddenly vanish from the face of the earth?

Literally nothing points to it being an Assist Trophy or a boss either. It could be any of the three possibilities, given the ambiguity of the pictures and how none of Sakurai's comments explicitly state Yellow Devil's role in the game.

 

[majora_787]

Literally nothing points to it being an Assist Trophy or a boss either. It could be any of the three possibilities, given the ambiguity of the pictures and how none of Sakurai's comments explicitly state Yellow Devil's role in the game.

The only thing pointing to it being a boss is the interest it got during E3. I wonder if they would make an effort to hint or tease Yellow Devil like that if he was nothing more than a stage hazard?

 

[Pazzo.]

Ah, that's true.

I do hope they bring the Boss Battles mode back, this time with bosses only from actual Nintendo games. No more Galleom, Duon, or Tabuu please.

Speaking of boss battles...

Where's mah Master Hand at?!

Master Hand is what I play SSB4 for.

 

[kidwitdaface]

I don't know. I definitely agree that proper enough grammar is important to be readable. That being said, I didn't really find what smashoperatingbuddy123 wrote to be unreadable. At all, actually. I believe there's another aspect to be taken into account here: comprehension. Context clues, people, come on, I learned this stuff in middle school and I'm fairly positive they're teaching it elementary now so don't bag on a guy for lacking in a particular aspect of a certain subject when you yourself seem to be lacking in a different but directly related aspect of the same subject.

My instinct tells me stage hazard, my logic tells me boss.

 

[N3ON]

For all we know Yellow Devil could be some new boss/stage hazard hybrid feature thing. The Dark Lord on the Mii stage and Ridley on Pyrosphere could be of the same type of deal.

Who knows.

 

[Vintage Creep]

If retro stages are a thing, I hope they're just in HD but left with the graphics of the game they're coming from. Saffron City for example, I would just port it and up it to HD. Would be cool

 

[MopedOfJustice]

An adventure mode à la Melee but with different quests and a final boss on the stage from the franchise the character you're using is from is the way to go. I hope that's what's boiling in Sakurai's mind.

There are a couple things to note.
We've never see a Big Guy on a stage that doesn't belong to him
We've seen that they don't have asinine Kirby-Style hurt boxes (above) (As seen in Brawl, Master Hand doesn't count)
Yellow up here isn't looking at Kirby, despite the prominence of the parts of his eye

Just to be kept in mind, I am no expert on NPC mechanics outside of Kirby games. I would say however, that he is almost certainly a boss, as he is way [/ridley] to be a regular occurrence on this stage, and he cannot be an AT because the linearity of his movement (not to mention his size) simply aren't compatible with most stages (ex: sonic's stage, the curvature and thick platforms would make it impossible to move or even stand). Therefore, he IS a boss.

My theory on the bosses (and this is why the first quote is there), is that bosses are based on difficulty. This is supported by the fact that Kirby is up there, despite his plethora of some of the best bosses Nintendo ever made. The only possible way for this to be character bound is if Adventure Mode is 2 player, and it uses P1's boss (in which case MM is off-screen).
I'm thinking easy is the Dark Emperor, and Normal or Hard is this guy.

 

[God Robert's Cousin]

All we know is that Yellow Devil is restricted to Wily's Fortress and cannot be an Assist Trophy, item, Final Smash, or anything of that nature. He's either a stage-hazard or a boss, though I'd be inclined to thinking he's a stage hazard considering the very nature of his attack pattern would make for a poor boss design in Smash Bros. format (since his signature attack stops at a certain distance and thus removes the necessity of dodging his attack the way intended). The same could be said for Dark Emperor, who does very little in the way of attacking beyond roaring.

Given, Sakurai can still take creative liberty on these entities, but the fact that they have a much smaller pool of attacks from their source material compared to bosses like Petey and Porky makes me think that they're boss-like in the same sense the Ultimate Chimera, Combo Cannon, and the Spear Pillar Pokemon are. That is, "boss-hazards" in how they can attack players directly, but are merely hazards of a stage otherwise.

That further makes me question why Ridley hasn't been shown even once yet in Pyrosphere if these kinds of hazards are indeed returning. It would make perfect sense to assume that Ridley would have the same form of AI as Yellow Devil and Dark Emperor, meaning that Pyrosphere, a stage clearly made to completion some time ago, would have surely shown Ridley by now if he was a mere boss-hazard. Whether Ridley is playable or not, whatever he is, he's not going to have the same status as Yellow Devil, that much I'm positive of.

 

[Accf124]

Speaking of Kirby I realized he is a ****ing overkill. When he gets a ability now adays he will rekt you. But all he does is fight weak enemies, Kirby needs a game where all these amazing abilities are used to there full potential.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I wonder if Sakurai likes to laugh and stroke his **** in sadistic glee at all of the rage and speculation over the ambiguous bull**** he pulls off everyday. ¦D

 

[NintendoKnight]

I wonder if Sakurai likes to laugh and stroke his **** in sadistic glee at all of the rage and speculation over the ambiguous bull**** he pulls off everyday. ¦D

I would think he's more likely to chuckle for a moment, then go back to four-player matches for the rest of his lunchbreak. Then the cameraman walks in, Sakurai gets pissed and ends his lunchbreak early, and then decides to do some coding while feeling great pain in his arm.

Then a dude from Namco-Bandai walks in with a suggestion and another programming tool to work with, which allows Sakurai a chance to see what the guy has to offer. The guy shows off a small programming command he created, Sakurai likes it, decides to code that into the game, and wants to test it out later.

He then takes a picture of that new programming and posts it the next day with even more ambiguity.

Or maybe he just makes a troll face and goes on his merry way back to Trollville. It's hard to tell which.

 

[AnOkayDM]

Sorry, I meant the Mario Down, is the own that havent been show... was the sunshine in brawl right?, but here....

Mario's down-B was shown in one of the videos Sakurai did at E3, though it could still change. FLUDD was shown at the time.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

Speaking of Kirby I realized he is a ****ing overkill. When he gets a ability now adays he will rekt you. But all he does is fight weak enemies, Kirby needs a game where all these amazing abilities are used to there full potential.

I think you're forgetting something.

 

[moneyfrenzy]

I can promise that it is not an assist trophy. It is in the exact same position every time, and assist trophies change spots

 

[NitrusVirus]

Speaking of Kirby I realized he is a ****ing overkill. When he gets a ability now adays he will rekt you. But all he does is fight weak enemies, Kirby needs a game where all these amazing abilities are used to there full potential.

His FS should really be changed to a Super Ability from Return to Dreamland

 

[Ulti-Bman]

If Toon Links useless ******* is in the game he may as well get a U-haul in his moveset to set him apart. Change his grab to the grappling hook maybe. Completely re-do his specials and FS. >B could be the skull hammer where it smashes downward or smacks horizontal. vB could be Magic Armor, act kinda like Ness' absorby shieldy thingy except you can move around. B could beeeeee a trap, you mark a part of the ground with the Tingle Tuner, whoever walks over it blows up. FS could be a storm/tornado attack from the Wind Waker. See Sakurai? See how ****ing easy that is?

Great idea, bad moveset.

Not to be rude or anything, but you do realize that while you may have proved your own point, you also just proved his point that Sakurai never literally and blatantly stated that Ridley was a stage hazard either, right?

So in other words, you're just as guilty. ¦D

Y'know, it seems as though the more you go on Smashboards, the less lovably crass and sophisticated you become. Thus, I can't tell if this is a good thing or bad thing, or maybe I just didn't get enough sleep last night.

 

[Deleted member]

Is it just me or does Mega Man's model look a bit darker in this pic?

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

The picture with Kirby going through Yellow Devil should be enough proof that it probably isn't a stage hazard, since stage hazards USUALLY (I say usually because of Birdo) cause contact damage. Plus, when Yellow Devil's dismantling and uniting, he takes up pretty much the entire stage, as well as pretty high into the sky, which is WAY too much for a stage hazard like that to block.

And Skull Kid was the first revealed Assist Trophy. Sure, Yellow Devil could be one, but why wait so long after that to reveal ATs if Yellow Devil is one? So I'm gonna say a boss of some kind. I don't know what mode, but I'm fairly certain Yellow Devil's a boss.

EDIT: Also, Brawler610, I notice that you have a Breloom support thread. You, sir/madam, are the best person ever.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

For all we know, the Yellow Devil may just be a stage hazard, much like with New Pork City's Ultimate Chimera.

 

[Jaedrik]

I predict that Yellow Devil is something that nobody expects.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

For all we know, the Yellow Devil may just be a stage hazard, much like with New Pork City's Ultimate Chimera.

Ultimate Chimera doesn't take up 40% of the stage standing still, or 90% in motion.

 

[Deleted member]

I predict that Yellow Devil is something that nobody expects.

Yellow Devil confirmed for SSB4!

For all we know, the Yellow Devil may just be a stage hazard, much like with New Pork City's Ultimate Chimera.

I think that this will be the case.

 

[soviet prince]

what did the jpn miiverse comment say?

 

[Morbi]

Ultimate Chimera doesn't take up 40% of the stage standing still, or 90% in motion.

Was Ultimate Chimera in Smash 4?

 

[NitrusVirus]

Great idea, bad moveset.

I know, just an example.

MORBID, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MR DIESEL???

 

[Morbi]

MORBID, WHAT DID YOU DO TO MR DIESEL???

Just spreading the word/controversy of one of my heroes.

 

[NitrusVirus]

Just spreading the word/controversy of one of my heroes.

I would have made a boob joke, then I read a post on your profile and felt bad.