Social Mii Swordfighter Social: Guide Hype

[GS3K]

I'd say I'm well rounded with all of them, but my gunner has passed my brawler by a mile

 

[Antonykun]

HOLY CRAP SORRY FOR THE DOUBLE POST BUT KK SLIDER MII SWORDFIGHTER COSTUME!!! I WANT IT SOOOO MUCH.

http://smashboards.com/threads/kk-s...-announced-for-japanese-7-eleven-deal.404674/

first of all you act like we care here
second of all: OMG KK SWORDFIGHTER
oh wait its gunner welp time to strengthen my gunner my worst mii is brawler

 

[GS3K]

Why is brawler's logo a fist when a good amount of its moveset revolves around kicking...

 

[Unknownkid]

What is with all the Gunner's Costumes? Splatoon and now KK. Crap... we are going into another balance patch for Lucas!

 

[GS3K]

At least the splatoon one makes a little sense because it's a (paint/ink) gun.

 

[Antonykun]

What is with all the Gunner's Costumes? Splatoon and now KK. Crap... we are going into another balance patch for Lucas!

we need more swordfighter costumes gunner has god tiered costumed with DLC D:<

 

[LiteralGrill]

Our character will climb the tier list with more costumes. We got a Monkey Costume and got buffed (stole some of Diddy's powers) so now we just need more...

 

[GeneralLedge]

So, the Brawler is arguably the best Mii class competitively,

I feel like this should be more debatable. Brawler simply gets easy wins via Tornado and Piston Punch. Realistically, Brawler isn't the best Mii Class, Tornado/Piston are just the best Mii moves.

I'm leaning more towards Gunner being the best Mii Class due to slick recoil movement and very strong field coverage. Brawler's just inside the old Diddy scope, and will likely (hopefully?) get fly-swatted when Lucas comes along.

I'm also hopeful for Mii size readjustments (weight could be broader to make large Miis actually competent), and Sheik's needles getting tweaked in such a way that the hitstun is only once per throw instead of per needle. But the latter here may ruin Sheik's rep, so idk.


In other news, I'm getting rather tired of Reddit and ZeRo's influence, and the current customs crybaby fiasco going on through twitter. Miis might get globally banned, or locked to 1111 50/50, guys.

If that happens, Mii Sword will actually be the best Mii. (Brawlers won't be able to do jack anymore and once the, for lack of a better term, 'children*' on Reddit figure it out he'll drop down to C or so)



*I may of course just be venting my frustration in calling them that, but if they want to act that way then so be it. I'll call them as I see them. The majority sure aren't acting like adults.

 

[Antonykun]

i just realized we went past 10 pages with no celebration :/

 

[LiteralGrill]

In other news, I'm getting rather tired of Reddit and ZeRo's influence, and the current customs crybaby fiasco going on through twitter. Miis might get globally banned, or locked to 1111 50/50, guys.

If that happens, Mii Sword will actually be the best Mii. (Brawlers won't be able to do jack anymore and once the, for lack of a better term, 'children*' on Reddit figure it out he'll drop down to C or so)


*I may of course just be venting my frustration in calling them that, but if they want to act that way then so be it. I'll call them as I see them. The majority sure aren't acting like adults.

AHEM! This month's monthly voted tier list requires folks to consider Miis with all of their moves available. This is a customs off tier list too which is why I found finally forcing that distinction important.

i just realized we went past 10 pages with no celebration :/

No, we're just being fashionably late to the party.

 

[Trieste SP]

In other news, I'm getting rather tired of Reddit and ZeRo's influence, and the current customs crybaby fiasco going on through twitter. Miis might get globally banned, or locked to 1111 50/50, guys.

If that happens, Mii Sword will actually be the best Mii. (Brawlers won't be able to do jack anymore and once the, for lack of a better term, 'children*' on Reddit figure it out he'll drop down to C or so)


*I may of course just be venting my frustration in calling them that, but if they want to act that way then so be it. I'll call them as I see them. The majority sure aren't acting like adults.

I understand where you come from. Customs can bring good and bad at the same time so people are going to be split about it. As for ZeRo I kinda agree with him although I'm neutral in the matter. Some customs do make you skip some fundamentals. I suppose to best way to make everyone happy is to ban some customs. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I'm also kinda bummed out that other international regions didn't have a chance to state their stance on the matter.

Our character will climb the tier list with more costumes. We got a Monkey Costume and got buffed (stole some of Diddy's powers) so now we just need more...

At least we're top tier in the costumes department.

 

[GeneralLedge]

Honestly I sort of hope customs get worked on in such a way as to develop specifically balanced sets for them instead of showcasing the absolute best of the best at the top of the list.

Like, say Pikachu's Heavy Skullbash gets banned. Would it still be banned if Pikachu could specifically run a garbage move alongside it to make the character more balanced while using Heavy Skullbash? To deliberately inject flaws to counter-act the OP customs?

It seems like this would be a more professional way to go about customs if post-EVO trashes them. Of course, we'll have a hell of a time figuring out which sets work towards this idea of 'balanced' customs.

Of course at its core this is mostly Nintendo/Sakurai/TeamSmash's fault in ignoring custom moves due to 4glory disallowing them. Or something. AA would argue otherwise because they tweaked a few customs in previous patches, but the outstandingly powerful ones are still outstandingly powerful, and the DLC characters will seemingly never get customs at all.

 

[GS3K]

Accidentally deleted my sm4sh data trying to clear space.

(Rage intensifies)

 

[ItsMeBrandon]

I don't have much to say about rulesets dealing with customs, but the only things I know I support are banning equipment and keeping Miis legal (even if it had to be 1111 sets only). I think we're probably just going to eventually allow custom moves everywhere in large regions, though whether any of the moves are generally considered OP or game-breaking has yet to be seen.

It seems that a lot of people think that customs-on rulesets greatly change the playing field, though. Apparently the Palutena boards think she's at least top 20 material with customs on, while if I'm correct, a lot of people don't think she's that good with customs off.

 

[Unknownkid]

That sucks, GS3K.

I understand where you come from. Customs can bring good and bad at the same time so people are going to be split about it. As for ZeRo I kinda agree with him although I'm neutral in the matter. Some customs do make you skip some fundamentals. I suppose to best way to make everyone happy is to ban some customs. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.

I'm also kinda bummed out that other international regions didn't have a chance to state their stance on the matter.


At least we're top tier in the costumes department.

That will led into Pokemon Smogon rules. Which isn't bad but until a custom character dominates a scene like Brawl Metaknight, Prepatch Diddy, or Melee Fox... no move should be banned.

 

[Unknownkid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHQ8Ff9JgI
STOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH THIS!

 

[RidleyDX]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHQ8Ff9JgI
STOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH THIS!

Here I was watching SFC5 on Greensleeves, so much mii swordfighter videos popping up, trela defiantly turning heads, all without harnessing the power of butter, maybe my original statement holds some truth

 

[san.]

I just find it dumb that I can't even change Mii sizes when 1111 is enforced. The size has nothing to do with what specials Miis can use.

 

[Trieste SP]

That will led into Pokemon Smogon rules. Which isn't bad but until a custom character dominates a scene like Brawl Metaknight, Prepatch Diddy, or Melee Fox... no move should be banned.

I know. Which is a slippery slope that we shouldn't take.

 

[Antonykun]

Accidentally deleted my sm4sh data trying to clear space.

(Rage intensifies)

you need a hug ):

 

[GS3K]

you need a hug ):

Nah I'm good. For now.

 

[Trieste SP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHQ8Ff9JgI
STOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH THIS!

(ノ ﾟДﾟ)ノ　＝＝＝＝　┻━━┻

 

[Antonykun]

ty guys for posting now I can say

I find it funny that with standard mii sizes/1111 in mind, Swordfighter actually may be the most viable out of the bunch.
I've really enjoyed using my swordfighter mii lately #_#

one of us one of us

 

[ItsMeBrandon]

It would be really amusing if Swordfighter started to pass a lot of fighters in newer tier lists.

I don't expect it at all, though.
But it seems Swordfighter still has some chance to do better. There's nowhere to go but up.

 

[GS3K]

I'll stick to my guns, thank you very much.

 

[Trieste SP]

It would be really amusing if Swordfighter started to pass a lot of fighters in newer tier lists.

I don't expect it at all, though.
But it seems Swordfighter still has some chance to do better. There's nowhere to go but up.

Yeah, with people like Trela people are going to change their minds about Swordfighter. Unfortunately, Zelda is pretty much unviable by a lot of people currently.

 

[ZarroTsu]

I just find it dumb that I can't even change Mii sizes when 1111 is enforced. The size has nothing to do with what specials Miis can use.

Ah, but, you might, DO something, like, move faster, and, that would be unfair, to the other player.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJHQ8Ff9JgI
STOP EVERYTHING AND WATCH THIS!

The "uplifting" windbox at 2:55; we need to start getting on the ball with it and follow-up accordingly. It's actually a very powerful tool, especially when the victim puts themself into helpless free-fall because of it.

On the other hand it lets Little Mac recover, so use it only when you know the opponent will make it back anyway >_>;

 

[LiteralGrill]

Well, CEO is discussing banning Miis or only using 1-1-1-1

I mean, I play as 1-1-1-1 basically in case stuff like that happens, but it still kinda stinks.

 

[GeneralLedge]

Hey I said it above, when limited to 1111 Mii Sword is the best Mii.


EDIT: Reddit logic:

Ah, yes, it all makes sense now...

 

[GS3K]

Hey I said it above, when limited to 1111 Mii Sword is the best Mii.


EDIT: Reddit logic:

Ah, yes, it all makes sense now...

I read that entire thread, and no drill from gurren laggan could get through something that dense. That line was so corny it belongs in Iowa.

I don't understand banning miis rather than limiting them to 1111. and at the very least are usable in a customs-off setting and takes a huge hit, but nothing about them warrants the banhammer.

 

[GeneralLedge]

I read that entire thread, and no drill from gurren laggan could get through something that dense. That line was so corny it belongs in Iowa.

Nah man you just gotta believe in the me that believes in you.

Also,

 

[Antonykun]

redit plz

Anyhows

 

[GS3K]

What in the...

 

[Unknownkid]

That is a cool Mii commercial.

 

[san.]

Get those marketing guys over here, all we have is you're a kid now you're a squid now.

Those matches were great. I cringed when Trela was centimeters from a punishment and missed because he didn't have minimum weight. Ironically, I think I've been underestimating uair. It's just that good apparently.

 

[Antonykun]

Get those marketing guys over here, all we have is you're a kid now you're a squid now.

Those matches were great. I cringed when Trela was centimeters from a punishment and missed because he didn't have minimum weight. Ironically, I think I've been underestimating uair. It's just that good apparently.

against the short hop maniac fox? it is that good!
actually i noticed that @Trela almost never uses d-tilt, I wonder why.

 

[Unknownkid]

He does use Dtilt. He uses at low percentage like dtilt->dtilt -> Aerial or against fox's dash attack/grab. Fox's weakness really is Shield huh?

 

[san.]

Dtilt is pretty awkward to use without tilt stick. I use it like a maniac, lol. Default height swordfighter has the best dtilt since it outranges even Ike's and it comes out on frame 5. Trela got quite a bit of reward whenever he did use it. I remember seeing a dtilt->dtilt->grab near 0.

Default swordfighter has a little bit of trouble following up from dtilt. Lesser weight ones can dtilt to fair or even uair much more easily.

Edit: Ninja'd

 

[Antonykun]

He does use Dtilt. He uses at low percentage like dtilt->dtilt -> Aerial or against fox's dash attack/grab. Fox's weakness really is Shield huh?

Dtilt is pretty awkward to use without tilt stick. I use it like a maniac, lol. Default height swordfighter has the best dtilt since it outranges even Ike's and it comes out on frame 5. Trela got quite a bit of reward whenever he did use it. I remember seeing a dtilt->dtilt->grab near 0.

Default swordfighter has a little bit of trouble following up from dtilt. Lesser weight ones can dtilt to fair or even uair much more easily.

Edit: Ninja'd

ah ok that makes more sense i need to pay more attention

Get those marketing guys over here, all we have is you're a kid now you're a squid now.

Those matches were great. I cringed when Trela was centimeters from a punishment and missed because he didn't have minimum weight. Ironically, I think I've been underestimating uair. It's just that good apparently.

 

[Unknownkid]

Yes, that Dtilt ->Dtilt ->Grab caught me off guard. But that first match of the Grand Finals! MAN... that was hype. Power Shields, Mind Games, DAT ENDING! Can someone please post a more hype Smash 4 match! MikeKirby vs Ninjalink/Vinnie/Raptor doesn't count.