Midnight Ops Mafia: Game Thread. Game Over!

[Xivii]

Quite a few player have been like “iT cAn Be EvErYoNe AnD LaSeR iS tHe CoMmOn FaCtOr”, if that’s not setting up a Laser lynch then I don’t know what is.

Only one person has said this.

 

[Xivii]

My scumreads were you and Py on D1 and after Poy flipped sorcerer I singled Raxx as the last scum for the rest of the entire game and I had to scream a lot for you all to listen.

That's not really the case. You town read Z and the only way I was able to get you to see otherwise was to provide a fake cop result. We misyeeted Funnier, but would not have had you been able to give us a read on him, which we asked you a number of times. You wanted to yeet Ranmaru, but didn't because I faked a town result on him. You all came together on Raxxel in the end.

 

[Xivii]

Z is the Ranmaru of that game.

 

[ExLight]

traitor can’t even be added to scumchat from what I understand from this setup, they probably benefit more from getting mislynched to save a scumbud than even trying to survive until -Lo since scum would risk outting themselves to hammer them or even accidentally nightkill them possibly smh

they have to play as good town if anything so they get rolecopped so the scumbuds know who they are

Only one person has said this.

I’m pretty sure I’ve read that mentality around ever since Rajam tried to make a counterwagon on Laser.

 

[ExLight]

You town read Z and the only way I was able to get you to see otherwise was to provide a fake cop result

hey I got Poy as Sorcerer D1 and Rax as the last scum after you outted Z25; 2/3 is pretty good already, gimme some credit umu

Z is the Ranmaru of that game.

nah

 

[ExLight]

I’m going to shower and go back to studying yall can hate me if you want but I’m sitting there until I finish rereading the thread ùmú

 

[Xivii]

My point is you're making it seem as if it was you vs everyone else and that you being stubborn is what saved the town, and then using that to justify your actions here.

 

[Chaco]

No one was voting(iirc) or even sticking to one target. This has all been a debate, so Ex voting goes literally against their own logic and they don’t seem to be thinking about what’s actually going on. We me be discussing laser but no one is ready to end the phase.

So to say that’s bad and try to end the phase is just horrible behavior.

I was more so suggesting the lack of traction against Laser as a whole. But you’re correct in saying that it’s not manifested to that point to be able to tell in its entirety.

 

[Xivii]

You're scumreading Chaco as well yes?

 

[Xivii]

^ ExLight

 

[ExLight]

My point is you're making it seem as if it was you vs everyone else and that you being stubborn is what saved the town, and then using that to justify your actions here.

it’s kinda what I’m saying yea
if twasn’t for me panicking like a little ***** I’d’ve prolly been lynched and game would’ve gone into -Lo or even ended if they hit the vengeful iirc

 

[ExLight]

You're scumreading Chaco as well yes?

not as much but yea
around ~67% on him

 

[Malakandra]

67? Thats impressive. Right now I really don't think I'm more than 50 on anybody, and I'm only a day away from catching up.

 

[Malakandra]

Catching up as in getting to the current day in my re read.

 

[ExLight]

67? Thats impressive

what kind of reaction is that? is this sarcasm? :surppika:

 

[Malakandra]

That's not really the case. You town read Z and the only way I was able to get you to see otherwise was to provide a fake cop result. We misyeeted Funnier, but would not have had you been able to give us a read on him, which we asked you a number of times. You wanted to yeet Ranmaru, but didn't because I faked a town result on him. You all came together on Raxxel in the end.

why does anyone trust you on roles again?

 

[ExLight]

why does anyone trust you on roles again?

we should start a petition so hosts rig roles and only give him vanilla

 

[Xivii]

why does anyone trust you on roles again?

It was the first game I had on this site in many years.

 

[Xivii]

we should start a petition so hosts rig roles and only give him vanilla

That would be a godsend.

 

[ExLight]

It was the first game I had on this site in many years.

doesn’t that make the gambits even worse aaaaa

 

[Xivii]

it’s kinda what I’m saying yea
if twasn’t for me panicking like a little ***** I’d’ve prolly been lynched and game would’ve gone into -Lo or even ended if they hit the vengeful iirc

not buckling under pressure is not equivalent to deliberately playing against the town

 

[Malakandra]

what kind of reaction is that? is this sarcasm? :surppika:

No, I'm generally surprised you have Chaco at 67. I haven't seen much from you in regards to him so far. He's been pretty townie to me so far, so I'm interested in seeing what you have on him. If I haven't seen it after my re read, I'll be sure to ask you.

 

[ExLight]

not buckling under pressure is not equivalent to deliberately playing against the town

are you really townreading Z25 that much?

 

[ExLight]

No, I'm generally surprised you have Chaco at 67. I haven't seen much from you in regards to him so far. He's been pretty townie to me so far, so I'm interested in seeing what you have on him. If I haven't seen it after my re read, I'll be sure to ask you.

I’m pretty sure I made a phat ass case on him D2, but I’ll readress that on the reread anyway prolly

 

[Xivii]

are you really townreading Z25 that much?

It's not a matter of what my read of. It's the principle of quick voting in lylo. I don't mind if you vote him in the end. It just shouldn't be now.

Chaco is 67%. What percentage would you say you have Z and Laser?

 

[ExLight]

Unvote

I guess being careful is never too much umu
lessee if this at least gave us some decent discussion

 

[ExLight]

Chaco is 67%. What percentage would you say you have Z and Laser?

Z is 85% as I mentioned before, Laser is like 55%

 

[Chaco]

People with Laser Meta:

Is he generally coachy as town?

 

[Xivii]

People with Laser Meta:

Is he generally coachy as town?

What are examples?

 

[ExLight]

and calling me forcing town “anti-town” is downright wrong. How is that any different from a vigi trying to save town by picking someone of their choice in a -Lo night?

just because I remove my team’s freedom of choosing that doesn’t mean it’s ill willed or against them umu

 

[Xivii]

67? Thats impressive. Right now I really don't think I'm more than 50 on anybody, and I'm only a day away from catching up.

What percentage were you on Rajam?

 

[Darkpit54]

Not at the start of a game but definitely at this phase because of traitor gets the mislynch here scum practically wins.

This doesn't seem true at all. Traitor would want literally any other non-scum to get yeeted, because if that happens scum wins. A traitor yeet just puts us back at LyLo tomorrow. Why would they try to get misyeeted over trying to misyeet someone else to get a definite win?

 

[Malakandra]

What percentage were you on Rajam?

90.

 

[Xivii]

and calling me forcing town “anti-town” is downright wrong. How is that any different from a vigi trying to save town by picking someone of their choice in a -Lo night?

just because I remove my team’s freedom of choosing that doesn’t mean it’s ill willed or against them umu

If the vig shot in lylo, that would be anti-town.

also what face even is umu lol

 

[Chaco]

What are examples?

One sec.

 

[ExLight]

If the vig shot in lylo, that would be anti-town.

also what face even is umu lol

it’s like owo but with eyes closed like uwu and and upside down mouth like it’s a sad pouting lmfao

 

[ExLight]

and nah it wouldn’t be anti town

 

[Xivii]

I'm going to go skate, which reminds me I had a dream about surfing that was totally rad.

 

[Chaco]

Five more pages. Okay. I can do this.



It might be helpful for you to make this into a spreadsheet/heat map so you can see visually what's going on. If you fill in your Townreads as well, you should be able to narrow it down to only a handful of pairings that make sense.

Be careful ruling out potential pairings just based on a player pushing another though. Especially as the player of suspects narrows, scum are going to find more reasons to need to target one another to avoid scrutiny. Think about whether you believe those players were actually attempting to lynch one another as that is more likely not SvS.

Xivii

 

[Xivii]

Nevermind, it got dark all the sudden